Splitters in law school Forum

[solidsnake]

Anecdotally, my ugpa was .9 below my school's median and lsat was 7 points above. I came in top 1%

you 1Ls shouldnt even be on these boards november-december. but to each his own.

[D-ROCCA]

you 1Ls shouldnt even be on these boards november-december

This board can sometimes be a great resource to people looking for helpful study tips for 1Ls. Oh well.

[MrKappus]

I'm just wondering (since I'll be one soon enough) how classic splitters do in law school as compared to people who are closer to both medians or reverse splitters.

None of the entry stats are that important in my personal experience. I was low gpa/slightly above median LSAT and I'm top 5%/LR. 40% Hard work + 60% luck = 1L performance.

[2011Law]

christ this thread grew fast, I guess I'm not the only one with nothing better to do than philosophy hw, glass of jameson, and the interwebs. also, I did not take the first comments seriously, though I understand that I did not ask the most intellectually stimulating question.

[D. H2Oman]

this threads NOT funny.

Dude has an honest question and fuckers like DF and H2Oman intentionally give him stupid advice. If he didn't know they were d-bags, he might believe them. It's one thing to mock a dumb question, it's another to just fuck with people for the lulz.

Oh man you should have been here for the drug test thread where I was this close to getting a guy to shave his head.

We have no way of knowing for sure, he may very well have actually done it.

[Mike12188]

I really like the post about retaking to lower your LSAT score to be at the median of your local TTTs

[D. H2Oman]

christ this thread grew fast, I guess I'm not the only one with nothing better to do than philosophy hw, glass of jameson, and the interwebs. also, I did not take the first comments seriously, though I understand that I did not ask the most intellectually stimulating question.

On behalf of DRocca I accept your apology

[NayBoer]

Splitters do horribly in law school. My school has a bunch of programs to teach us how to study and take exams, but I'm too much of a splitter to attend any of them.

If things continue this way, I'll have to transfer down to GULC PT.

[Adjudicator]

I really like the post about retaking to lower your LSAT score to be at the median of your local TTTs

Thanks, that mean a lot to me.

[Sandro]

some of the dumbest people I know have high GPAs. On the other hand, NONE of the dumbest people I know have high LSAT scores.

[Deuce]

I personally know my high GPA from online business courses at a state school will absolutely guarantee success in law school. OP, you don't have a chance against mega-minds like myself. Give up now.

[3ThrowAway99]

Lol at all the sarcasm.. I suspect that of (1) above median LSAT along with below median UGPA vs. (2) below median LSAT with above-median GPA, category (1) tends to grade better typically in law school.. LSAT is meant to correlate with law school performance after all (by requiring some of the same analytical and logical skills) whereas undergrad grading seems to widely vary by school and program.. I guess this is probably obvious to a lot of people (though maybe people will also genuinely disagree?) and hence the sarcasm.. However, I don't know what the actual data on this is (or if there is any) and so this is entirely speculation... The other thing is that even if one position would tend to be more advantageous for you than another statistically, how things actually play out individually obviously doesn't always conform in a predictable manner to what the trend may look like...

[dissonance1848]

Your LSAT + UGPA accounts for 20% of 1L grade variance. Thats total shit. 80% is other stuff. So, someone whose is below 25% on both GPA and LSAT actually has a good shot at being top of the class, the relationship is just too weak. You would need insane differences (like being over 1.0 lower in GPA than the median from a crappy school with no real classes, or 10 lsat points below median) for these two variables to start having a real influence (meaning that the person is both really lazy and below average intelligence).

[Anomaly]

Your LSAT + UGPA accounts for 20% of 1L grade variance. Thats total shit. 80% is other stuff. So, someone whose is below 25% on both GPA and LSAT actually has a good shot at being top of the class, the relationship is just too weak. You would need insane differences (like being over 1.0 lower in GPA than the median from a crappy school with no real classes, or 10 lsat points below median) for these two variables to start having a real influence (meaning that the person is both really lazy and below average intelligence).

This post is so worthless.

[Z3RO]

Your LSAT + UGPA accounts for 20% of 1L grade variance. Thats total shit. 80% is other stuff. So, someone whose is below 25% on both GPA and LSAT actually has a good shot at being top of the class, the relationship is just too weak. You would need insane differences (like being over 1.0 lower in GPA than the median from a crappy school with no real classes, or 10 lsat points below median) for these two variables to start having a real influence (meaning that the person is both really lazy and below average intelligence).

I hope you're not confusing a correlation coefficient with actually indicating "how much x is responsible for y".

It's not like law school performance is stone soup, and each factor (UGPA, LSAT, URM, Economic background, WE) are ingredients...

[jrwhitedog]

Splitters are just people who got LUCKY on the LSAT, essentially idiots. I'm sure they do horrible in law school.

Then why the so claimed smart people just can't do well in lsat? You are so ridiculous.
The only reason the splitters are lucky is because they are smart but just not dedicated enough during their undergraduate studies. To be fair,I believe lsat is a better way than gpa to test your intelligence.

[whymeohgodno]

This thread is awesome. It's amazing how much better trolling is when it's collaborative.

[HeavenWood]

Splitters are just people who got LUCKY on the LSAT, essentially idiots. I'm sure they do horrible in law school.

Then why the so claimed smart people just can't do well in lsat? You are so ridiculous.
The only reason the splitters are lucky is because they are smart but just not dedicated enough during their undergraduate studies. To be fair,I believe lsat is a better way than gpa to test your intelligence.

I was a splitter (2180/3.2) when applying to UG. Now I'm a semi-reverse splitter (166/3.94). Sometimes people turn their work ethics around--something my HS GPA would not have predicted.

[arism87]

I was a splitter (2180/3.2) when applying to UG.

Makes me feel old.

[whymeohgodno]

Splitters are just people who got LUCKY on the LSAT, essentially idiots. I'm sure they do horrible in law school.

Then why the so claimed smart people just can't do well in lsat? You are so ridiculous.
The only reason the splitters are lucky is because they are smart but just not dedicated enough during their undergraduate studies. To be fair,I believe lsat is a better way than gpa to test your intelligence.

I was a splitter (2180/3.2) when applying to UG. Now I'm a semi-reverse splitter (166/3.94). Sometimes people turn their work ethics around--something my HS GPA would not have predicted.

Man, I hated the writing portion of the SATs. Do UG's even look at that section now?

[HeavenWood]

I was a splitter (1390/3.2) when applying to UG.

Makes me feel old.

Fixed it for the old people (I performed exceptionally well on the section that didn't matter).

[James Bond]

I <3 this thread. hidden gold

[Miracle]

Ohhh my....

[bergg007]

This thread is awesome. It's amazing how much better trolling is when it's collaborative.

competitive

[09042014]

Splitters are just people who got LUCKY on the LSAT, essentially idiots. I'm sure they do horrible in law school.

Then why the so claimed smart people just can't do well in lsat? You are so ridiculous.
The only reason the splitters are lucky is because they are smart but just not dedicated enough during their undergraduate studies. To be fair,I believe lsat is a better way than gpa to test your intelligence.

I was a splitter (2180/3.2) when applying to UG. Now I'm a semi-reverse splitter (166/3.94). Sometimes people turn their work ethics around--something my HS GPA would not have predicted.

I was a reverse splitter 4.2/4.0 with a 31 ACT. Now I'm a 176/2.8.