what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Barbie » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:52 am

coolymx wrote:
Barbie wrote:Well, that could also be because of 9890483290483209480239 different things (PS, LORs, etc etc). I'm just curious with all things the same-- if your UG institution had better #s... would it be different?


I suspect the admission committee must, perhaps subconsciously, discriminate undergrad institutions to an extent. I mean, they are human too.

if two people are exact same in every respect in terms of numbers, qualifcations etc., and one's from an Ivy School, and one's from "Lame Duck University", who would you want at ur law school?


Haha thats obvious, but... Thats not really what I'm curious about. I'm talking about more two schools who are on the same playing field rankings wise. Like two big, state universities. One who has a 155/3.3 average and one who has a 148/3.0 average, for example. It doesn't really matter.. I just wonder. Also, my school has had only a few people even apply to law school. The school has been around since 1956 and only has 800 applicants (Is this ever?). Plus, we don't have a prelaw advisor, any type of prelaw track or courses... so that prob has SOMETHING to do with the low numbers. Idk... I'm over thinking it haha.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby motiontodismiss » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:39 pm

3.47/160.

I'm 3.45/PTing 160. I'm an embarrassment to NYU.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby whymeohgodno » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:55 pm

motiontodismiss wrote:3.47/160.

I'm 3.45/PTing 160. I'm an embarrassment to NYU.


Why? You're average.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby coolymx » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:07 pm

Barbie wrote:Haha thats obvious, but... Thats not really what I'm curious about. I'm talking about more two schools who are on the same playing field rankings wise. Like two big, state universities. One who has a 155/3.3 average and one who has a 148/3.0 average, for example. It doesn't really matter.. I just wonder. Also, my school has had only a few people even apply to law school. The school has been around since 1956 and only has 800 applicants (Is this ever?). Plus, we don't have a prelaw advisor, any type of prelaw track or courses... so that prob has SOMETHING to do with the low numbers. Idk... I'm over thinking it haha.


Regarding the 800 applicants, I do believe it's only the total for the past 3 years.

Regarding your main curious concern about the two universities, in my completely unprofessional, uneducated, just-plain-guessing opinion, it will make only a fraction of a difference, if any at all.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby motiontodismiss » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:55 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:
motiontodismiss wrote:3.47/160.

I'm 3.45/PTing 160. I'm an embarrassment to NYU.


Why? You're average.


You've never been to NYU I presume. Some of the people who went there are brilliant, but some of the others are, just, like, how do I put it? dumb as a post.

Then again my perspective could be skewed because I just have really smart friends.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Barbie » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:57 pm

coolymx wrote:
Barbie wrote:Haha thats obvious, but... Thats not really what I'm curious about. I'm talking about more two schools who are on the same playing field rankings wise. Like two big, state universities. One who has a 155/3.3 average and one who has a 148/3.0 average, for example. It doesn't really matter.. I just wonder. Also, my school has had only a few people even apply to law school. The school has been around since 1956 and only has 800 applicants (Is this ever?). Plus, we don't have a prelaw advisor, any type of prelaw track or courses... so that prob has SOMETHING to do with the low numbers. Idk... I'm over thinking it haha.


Regarding the 800 applicants, I do believe it's only the total for the past 3 years.

Regarding your main curious concern about the two universities, in my completely unprofessional, uneducated, just-plain-guessing opinion, it will make only a fraction of a difference, if any at all.



You really think its over the last 3 years? Does anyone else have a number of applicants to compare this to? :D

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby beachbum » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:34 pm

Barbie wrote:
coolymx wrote:
Barbie wrote:Haha thats obvious, but... Thats not really what I'm curious about. I'm talking about more two schools who are on the same playing field rankings wise. Like two big, state universities. One who has a 155/3.3 average and one who has a 148/3.0 average, for example. It doesn't really matter.. I just wonder. Also, my school has had only a few people even apply to law school. The school has been around since 1956 and only has 800 applicants (Is this ever?). Plus, we don't have a prelaw advisor, any type of prelaw track or courses... so that prob has SOMETHING to do with the low numbers. Idk... I'm over thinking it haha.


Regarding the 800 applicants, I do believe it's only the total for the past 3 years.

Regarding your main curious concern about the two universities, in my completely unprofessional, uneducated, just-plain-guessing opinion, it will make only a fraction of a difference, if any at all.



You really think its over the last 3 years? Does anyone else have a number of applicants to compare this to? :D


Yup, these numbers are for the last three years. My school is fairly small (~8000 undergrads) and had a pool of 536 applicants.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Barbie » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:45 pm

beachbum wrote:
Barbie wrote:You really think its over the last 3 years? Does anyone else have a number of applicants to compare this to? :D


Yup, these numbers are for the last three years. My school is fairly small (~8000 undergrads) and had a pool of 536 applicants.


Oh weird! I know UCF (public school in the middle of florida) has like, 1600.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby whymeohgodno » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:26 pm

motiontodismiss wrote:
whymeohgodno wrote:
motiontodismiss wrote:3.47/160.

I'm 3.45/PTing 160. I'm an embarrassment to NYU.


Why? You're average.


You've never been to NYU I presume. Some of the people who went there are brilliant, but some of the others are, just, like, how do I put it? dumb as a post.

Then again my perspective could be skewed because I just have really smart friends.


This can be said for just about any university. Brilliant people and dumb people exist everywhere.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby im_blue » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:27 pm

Barbie wrote:
beachbum wrote:
Barbie wrote:You really think its over the last 3 years? Does anyone else have a number of applicants to compare this to? :D


Yup, these numbers are for the last three years. My school is fairly small (~8000 undergrads) and had a pool of 536 applicants.


Oh weird! I know UCF (public school in the middle of florida) has like, 1600.

UCF is ranked #20 for number of ABA law school applicants (UF is #1 and FSU is #6).

http://www.lsac.org/LSACResources/Data/ ... chools.pdf

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Barbie » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:29 pm

im_blue wrote:
Barbie wrote:
beachbum wrote:
Barbie wrote:You really think its over the last 3 years? Does anyone else have a number of applicants to compare this to? :D


Yup, these numbers are for the last three years. My school is fairly small (~8000 undergrads) and had a pool of 536 applicants.


Oh weird! I know UCF (public school in the middle of florida) has like, 1600.

UCF is ranked #20 for number of ABA law school applicants (UF is #1 and FSU is #6).

http://www.lsac.org/LSACResources/Data/ ... chools.pdf


Holy cow!!! I had no idea so many floridians applied to LS hahaa

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby im_blue » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:31 pm

Barbie wrote:
im_blue wrote:UCF is ranked #20 for number of ABA law school applicants (UF is #1 and FSU is #6).

http://www.lsac.org/LSACResources/Data/ ... chools.pdf


Holy cow!!! I had no idea so many floridians applied to LS hahaa

It's probably because FL has a lot of TTTs relative to its population (FAMU, Nova Southeastern, FL Coastal, Ave Maria, Barry, etc).

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Barbie » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:33 pm

im_blue wrote:
Barbie wrote:
im_blue wrote:UCF is ranked #20 for number of ABA law school applicants (UF is #1 and FSU is #6).

http://www.lsac.org/LSACResources/Data/ ... chools.pdf


Holy cow!!! I had no idea so many floridians applied to LS hahaa

It's probably because FL has a lot of TTTs relative to its population (FAMU, Nova Southeastern, FL Coastal, Ave Maria, Barry, etc).


Meh, could be mistaking which is cause and which is effect. Who knows!

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby whymeohgodno » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:40 pm

I'm waiting for my academic summary report. It's probably going to be around a 3.3/156 though (just guessing).

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby gerbal » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:20 pm

for anyone who's interested. Found this on the JHU pre-professional advising site.

http://web.jhu.edu/bin/o/w/0809LawSchoo ... lGrads.pdf

thought they would do better than this...

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Postby motiontodismiss » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:41 pm

gerbal wrote:for anyone who's interested. Found this on the JHU pre-professional advising site.

http://web.jhu.edu/bin/o/w/0809LawSchoo ... lGrads.pdf

thought they would do better than this...


I suppose the sample's skewed...JHU is a science school.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby im_blue » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:57 am

gerbal wrote:for anyone who's interested. Found this on the JHU pre-professional advising site.

http://web.jhu.edu/bin/o/w/0809LawSchoo ... lGrads.pdf

thought they would do better than this...

Found some more:

Cornell (Page 30) --LinkRemoved--

Emory --LinkRemoved--

Oberlin (Page 25) http://www.oberlin.edu/career/students/ ... 09_000.pdf

Ohio State http://oaa.osu.edu/irp/budget_advisory/ ... nkings.pdf

Stanford http://www.stanford.edu/group/SPLS/docu ... sMay08.pdf

Tufts --LinkRemoved--

Vassar (Page 26) --LinkRemoved--

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby whymeohgodno » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:11 am

Edit: I found it.

It's horrible.

3.29/153. I'm ashamed.

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Postby whymeohgodno » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:28 am

im_blue wrote:
gerbal wrote:for anyone who's interested. Found this on the JHU pre-professional advising site.

http://web.jhu.edu/bin/o/w/0809LawSchoo ... lGrads.pdf

thought they would do better than this...

Found some more:

Cornell (Page 30) --LinkRemoved--

Emory --LinkRemoved--

Oberlin (Page 25) http://www.oberlin.edu/career/students/ ... 09_000.pdf

Ohio State http://oaa.osu.edu/irp/budget_advisory/ ... nkings.pdf

Stanford http://www.stanford.edu/group/SPLS/docu ... sMay08.pdf

Tufts --LinkRemoved--

Vassar (Page 26) --LinkRemoved--


Cornell University
166.3 3.68

Unabashed favorism shown by Cornell to Cornell undergrads lololol.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Ginj » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:30 am

Barbie wrote:U. South Florida (lol)
3.18/149 (lol!!!)

So uh... does this make me look REALLY bad because I go here, or good because I (somewhat) excelled when few of my kind did :)


Dude, after meeting some USF students, I'm surprised it's that high...

...no offense...

Apparently 11% of the kids at my undergrad scored at the 19th percentile or below. *sigh*

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby r6_philly » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:53 am

whymeohgodno wrote:Edit: I found it.

It's horrible.

3.29/153. I'm ashamed.


Mine is 3.26/150. I am not ashamed. I am the only one in the 95th percentile. :shock:

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby artichoke » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:10 pm

I'm a 3.19, 153

Not surprised considering the individuals who attended my University.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Barbie » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:11 pm

Ginj wrote:
Barbie wrote:U. South Florida (lol)
3.18/149 (lol!!!)

So uh... does this make me look REALLY bad because I go here, or good because I (somewhat) excelled when few of my kind did :)


Dude, after meeting some USF students, I'm surprised it's that high...

...no offense...

Apparently 11% of the kids at my undergrad scored at the 19th percentile or below. *sigh*


:( I've gone to school here for 2 years now, and within the English dept., and especially the honor's program, there are some pretty smart kids... but I don't much venture out of my small bubble because of that.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby artichoke » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:14 pm

Barbie wrote:
Ginj wrote:
Barbie wrote:U. South Florida (lol)
3.18/149 (lol!!!)

So uh... does this make me look REALLY bad because I go here, or good because I (somewhat) excelled when few of my kind did :)


Dude, after meeting some USF students, I'm surprised it's that high...

...no offense...

Apparently 11% of the kids at my undergrad scored at the 19th percentile or below. *sigh*


:( I've gone to school here for 2 years now, and within the English dept., and especially the honor's program, there are some pretty smart kids... but I don't much venture out of my small bubble because of that.


It's hard to socialize when you go to a school with mostly..... stupid people. I know, I tried.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby whymeohgodno » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:37 pm

r6_philly wrote:
whymeohgodno wrote:Edit: I found it.

It's horrible.

3.29/153. I'm ashamed.


Mine is 3.26/150. I am not ashamed. I am the only one in the 95th percentile. :shock:


Well if you're at top at a college you should be proud no matter how bad the college.

Me I'm not even at the top. That's the sad thing. I can't believe I go to a college where the median LSAT is a 153...




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