what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Lagunitan » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:50 am

Stanford

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby whymeohgodno » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:27 am

I would be above average at Yale. That makes me feel better. Not by much though.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby ilovemulch » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:59 pm

the GPA mean from your college is ONLY for law school applicants from your school, not the total undergraduate student body, correct? Also, how many years are included in the data?
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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Patriot1208 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:07 pm

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby beachbum » Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:18 pm

Saint Louis University:

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153

Meh.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby starrydreamz3 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:38 pm

157
3.25

Coming from an engineering school the 3.25 GPA actually seems sorta high...Though I guess it's balanced out by being a private school.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Aggiegrad2011 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:18 pm

ilovemulch wrote:the GPA mean from your college is ONLY for law school applicants from your school, not the total undergraduate student body, correct? Also, how many years are included in the data?

Oh and Cornell:

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Do law schools see this info on the report they receive? I know it's on the report WE see on lsac website...


Yeah, law schools get that report, along with your LSAT band, your GPA %tile, etc.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby ajmanyjah » Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:51 pm

starrydreamz3 wrote:157
3.25

Coming from an engineering school the 3.25 GPA actually seems sorta high...Though I guess it's balanced out by being a private school.


Unless it is only an engineering school I;d assume most LS applicants are not engineers?

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Postby tipler4213 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:17 pm

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby emjay » Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:57 pm

NYU:

GPA: 3.47
LSAT: 160

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby ilovemulch » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:11 pm

anyone know if that college GPA mean is for Law School Applicants only? Or does it include all seniors?

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby im_blue » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:16 pm

ilovemulch wrote:anyone know if that college GPA mean is for Law School Applicants only? Or does it include all seniors?

"The average GPA for law school candidates who graduated at any time period from the institution and who registered for the Credential Assembly Service during the most recent three years you attended the school."

https://os.lsac.org/Release/Share/Displ ... ANS&id=KEY

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby mst » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:18 pm

I really hate how this data is even reported. The fact that LSAC is meshing up my BS in Economics with engineering degrees that average around 3 and liberal arts degrees that average around the upper 3.7/8 range... well, it's just stupid. Every college and degree is going to have remarkably different avg's (unless your just a liberal arts school), so ranking yourself among people who have harder or softer curves is just unfair.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Aggiegrad2011 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:39 pm

The fact that a mere single point on the LSAT can be either an admission or a rejection from a school is pretty absurd and unfair too, but that's the law admissions world we know and love.

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Postby tgir » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:54 pm

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby whymeohgodno » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:54 pm

Aggiegrad2011 wrote:The fact that a mere single point on the LSAT can be either an admission or a rejection from a school is pretty absurd and unfair too, but that's the law admissions world we know and love.


This. Guessing a single question right or wrong can mean the difference between an autoadmit and a WL.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Barbie » Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:25 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:
Aggiegrad2011 wrote:The fact that a mere single point on the LSAT can be either an admission or a rejection from a school is pretty absurd and unfair too, but that's the law admissions world we know and love.


This. Guessing a single question right or wrong can mean the difference between an autoadmit and a WL.


Yeah! I think the GPA is MORE fair than that... just because regardless of difficulty, it is somewhat controllable-- you get as much as you give on an overall scale. And I mean.. for example, my boyfriend is a business major. He has to take all these hard math classes that I would fail instantly. I'm an english major, and while its easy for me-- he would completely fail at the first 30+ page paper on Shakespeare, Milton, or Chaucer. I do feel bad for the engineering or pre-med majors,... but thats because those majors set you up for a path much different than law school.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Trustbuster » Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:25 pm

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Texas A&M

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby ahduth » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:13 am

emjay wrote:NYU:

GPA: 3.47
LSAT: 160


Interesting. I have 3.23 and 153 for NYU. I graduated awhile ago though. Grade inflation is intense. I am now very, very glad they include this information.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby mr_toad » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:19 am

Probably a question that's been answered: What would the difference between the mean and your GPA have to be to be considered as a positive? Ok, obviously, anything in the "plus" range is good, but... +.3? +.5? I feel blessed by a school that had a mean of 3.12 during my time, but the LSAT mean was 151, so not exactly a stellar institution...

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Barbie » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:21 am

mr_toad wrote:Probably a question that's been answered: What would the difference between the mean and your GPA have to be to be considered as a positive? Ok, obviously, anything in the "plus" range is good, but... +.3? +.5? I feel blessed by a school that had a mean of 3.12 during my time, but the LSAT mean was 151, so not exactly a stellar institution...



Mine is laughable. And so far the very worst by far ITT. I still wonder how that will make me look: good by contrast or bad by association haha.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby rundoxierun » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:25 am

Barbie wrote:
mr_toad wrote:Probably a question that's been answered: What would the difference between the mean and your GPA have to be to be considered as a positive? Ok, obviously, anything in the "plus" range is good, but... +.3? +.5? I feel blessed by a school that had a mean of 3.12 during my time, but the LSAT mean was 151, so not exactly a stellar institution...



Mine is laughable. And so far the very worst by far ITT. I still wonder how that will make me look: good by contrast or bad by association haha.


Doubt it will have any effect at all.. One of my undergrads has pretty low numbers and so far my cycle is going exactly as would be predicted, possibly better even.

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby Barbie » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:27 am

tkgrrett wrote:
Barbie wrote:
mr_toad wrote:Probably a question that's been answered: What would the difference between the mean and your GPA have to be to be considered as a positive? Ok, obviously, anything in the "plus" range is good, but... +.3? +.5? I feel blessed by a school that had a mean of 3.12 during my time, but the LSAT mean was 151, so not exactly a stellar institution...



Mine is laughable. And so far the very worst by far ITT. I still wonder how that will make me look: good by contrast or bad by association haha.


Doubt it will have any effect at all.. One of my undergrads has pretty low numbers and so far my cycle is going exactly as would be predicted, possibly better even.


Well, that could also be because of 9890483290483209480239 different things (PS, LORs, etc etc). I'm just curious with all things the same-- if your UG institution had better #s... would it be different?

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby The Gentleman » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:37 am

Barbie wrote:Mine is laughable. And so far the very worst by far ITT.


Not anymore Barbie:

LSAT median = 145

I win....

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Re: what are your "college means" for GPA and LSAT?

Postby coolymx » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:43 am

Barbie wrote:Well, that could also be because of 9890483290483209480239 different things (PS, LORs, etc etc). I'm just curious with all things the same-- if your UG institution had better #s... would it be different?


I suspect the admission committee must, perhaps subconsciously, discriminate undergrad institutions to an extent. I mean, they are human too.

if two people are exact same in every respect in terms of numbers, qualifcations etc., and one's from an Ivy School, and one's from "Lame Duck University", who would you want at ur law school?




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