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Postby sch6les » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:58 pm

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Re: About law school medians

Postby bk1 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:03 pm

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Re: About law school medians

Postby Patriot1208 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:04 pm

Not really, because not all URM's are below median, and they purposely look to get applicants in that will keep the medians up. Generally, if you are at both medians, as a white male, you will likely be admitted.

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Re: About law school medians

Postby kwais » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:14 pm

sch6les wrote:The median is sort of an illusion, since it takes into account URM/etc. admits, who have lower scores. So the median for regular good 'ol white Republican male admits is going to be higher, no?

My question is, how much higher is this median going to be? Harvard's median is currently 3.88. For a regular applicant, is it in reality 3.9? 3.91?

Thanks.


wow, it's hard to imagine why law schools wouldn't want too many "regular good 'ol white Republican male admits". Good luck though

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Re: About law school medians

Postby jwrash » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:15 pm

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Re: About law school medians

Postby r6_philly » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:18 pm

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That is a wonderful picture, just as Data, OP was serious.

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Re: About law school medians

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:20 pm

URM admits don't affect the medians. Why? Because there are so few of them. If a school had 25% AA or native american, the yes it would have an effect. Because no non-HBCU does, it really doesn't affect the numbers.

Also, the numbers are lower due to splitters. Usually, high LSAT low GPA individuals.

HTH.

Oh and OP, you fail.

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Re: About law school medians

Postby ajmanyjah » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:21 pm

sch6les wrote:The median is sort of an illusion, since it takes into account URM/etc. admits, who have lower scores. So the median for regular good 'ol white Republican male admits is going to be higher, no?

My question is, how much higher is this median going to be? Harvard's median is currently 3.88. For a regular applicant, is it in reality 3.9? 3.91?

Thanks.


If Republican median+2, median+.15

Disregard if Chicago or GMU

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Re: About law school medians

Postby 09042014 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:23 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:URM admits don't affect the medians. Why? Because there are so few of them. If a school had 25% AA or native american, the yes it would have an effect. Because no non-HBCU does, it really doesn't affect the numbers.

Also, the numbers are lower due to splitters. Usually, high LSAT low GPA individuals.

HTH.

Oh and OP, you fail.


Please google median and mean and then write 200 words on the difference Jimmy.

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Re: About law school medians

Postby r6_philly » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:28 pm

quick someone points out that Asians generally have higher GPA's so if anything OP has it backwards! :mrgreen:

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Re: About law school medians

Postby turkeysub » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:31 pm

So the median for regular good 'ol white Republican male admits is going to be higher, no?



It's sad that this kind of question actually is a FAQ.

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Re: About law school medians

Postby ajmanyjah » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:35 pm

Oh and OP, before you rant about how things are so much harder because you are a white male---get 4th grade math right.

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Re: About law school medians

Postby jwrash » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:44 pm

perhaps we shouldn't assume that all URM applicants are below the median? lol

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Re: About law school medians

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:47 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:URM admits don't affect the medians. Why? Because there are so few of them. If a school had 25% AA or native american, the yes it would have an effect. Because no non-HBCU does, it really doesn't affect the numbers.

Also, the numbers are lower due to splitters. Usually, high LSAT low GPA individuals.

HTH.

Oh and OP, you fail.


Please google median and mean and then write 200 words on the difference Jimmy.


Haha I meant 50%.

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Re: About law school medians

Postby 09042014 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:49 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Aberzombie1892 wrote:URM admits don't affect the medians. Why? Because there are so few of them. If a school had 25% AA or native american, the yes it would have an effect. Because no non-HBCU does, it really doesn't affect the numbers.

Also, the numbers are lower due to splitters. Usually, high LSAT low GPA individuals.

HTH.

Oh and OP, you fail.


Please google median and mean and then write 200 words on the difference Jimmy.


Haha I meant 50%.


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Re: About law school medians

Postby Renzo » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:49 pm

Naw, the median #'s are accurate for white republicans. All the Blacks dragging down the midpoint are counterbalanced by the overachieving Asian broads, with the good ol' real Americans sandwiched in the middle.

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Re: About law school medians

Postby jwrash » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:50 pm

Renzo wrote:Naw, the median #'s are accurate for white republicans. All the Blacks dragging down the midpoint are counterbalanced by the overachieving Asian broads, with the good ol' real Americans sandwiched in the middle.

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Postby sch6les » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:55 pm

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Re: About law school medians

Postby r6_philly » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:09 pm

Renzo wrote:Naw, the median #'s are accurate for white republicans. All the Blacks dragging down the midpoint are counterbalanced by the overachieving Asian broads, with the good ol' real Americans sandwiched in the middle.


They are more Asians than Blacks ... the implication is ...

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Re: About law school medians

Postby r6_philly » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:41 pm

you are making inferences about the numerical qualities of each applicant pool separated by suspect categories. I said above, if you want to make such foolish categorizations, then you will realize the median for your "regular" pool is actually lower than the posted medians.

P.S. There are so many things wrong with the whole thing it's scary that it is serious to you.

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Re: About law school medians

Postby bdubs » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:44 pm

sch6les wrote:So...why is my question retarded? :mrgreen:

By the whole white Republican male thing I just meant 'regular' candidates, i.e. non URM's/legacies/anybody in a seperate category of admission. It was a sterotype joke.

Since URM's are in a seperate admission category, regular candidates would only be competing with other regular candidates for admission. So the LSAT/GPA range posted by Law Schools is off, because it includes URM stats.


OP: Your question is not totally off base. If you removed URMs from the applicant pool, generally medians would increase. Your reasoning as to why is somewhat incorrect because URMs are part of the applicant pool that you are competing with.

When the school tries to make its applicant pool diverse, they have to restrict the number of boring people like you because there are so many other people just like you with better numbers (straight through, white, male).

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Re: About law school medians

Postby Patriot1208 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:47 pm

sch6les wrote:So...why is my question retarded? :mrgreen:

By the whole white Republican male thing I just meant 'regular' candidates, i.e. non URM's/legacies/anybody in a seperate category of admission. It was a sterotype joke.

Since URM's are in a seperate admission category, regular candidates would only be competing with other regular candidates for admission. So the LSAT/GPA range posted by Law Schools is off, because it includes URM stats.



http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mean+vs.+median

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Re: About law school medians

Postby ajmanyjah » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:15 pm

sch6les wrote:So...why is my question retarded? :mrgreen:

By the whole white Republican male thing I just meant 'regular' candidates, i.e. non URM's/legacies/anybody in a seperate category of admission. It was a sterotype joke.

Since URM's are in a seperate admission category, regular candidates would only be competing with other regular candidates for admission. So the LSAT/GPA range posted by Law Schools is off, because it includes URM stats.


Even if every URM is below median (which they are not) it likely would not be a huge gap, and largely irrelevant to LSAT medians, assuming that 50% of the "white replacements" would score above median, and assuming 10% URM...it's only 5% that are now above median, and if the median band is wide enough, the LSAT score might not even change

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Re: About law school medians

Postby ixwad » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:23 am

For the record, some people in this thread seemed to assume that the OP assumes URM will score lower than other candidates. In reality, I think the (accurate) assumption is simply that, while all groups have candidates applying with high and low scores, URMs with low scores will be accepted at a greater rate than non-URMs with low scores.




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