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awoken_soul
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my college grades?

Postby awoken_soul » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:24 am

I know i keep posting but can someone advice me what to do? In the first two years of my college I basically didn't go to class and flunked every class.

1st semester: All F's
2nd semester: Withdraw
3rd semester: withdraw

Then I transferred to a community college where I didn't do as well as I thought would because I DIDN'T GOTO CLASS!
A's, B's, and a D!

Then I transferred to another state university and I have been making A's and B's so far. My question is What can I do to boost my GPA? My current GPA at this institution is 3.33, but I still have another year or so. I am going to have a headache.

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Hamilton
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Re: my college grades?

Postby Hamilton » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:26 am

go to class?

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Re: my college grades?

Postby awoken_soul » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:27 am

hahaha I have started to goto class and I am earning A's and B's even in high level courses. But I was asking whether it would effect my chances to get into a good law school and how would LSAC calculate my GPA

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Postby Hamilton » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:35 am

ah, well. I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure LSAC calculates all of your grades from all institutions attended in your UGPA. That being said, law schools definitely look for upward trends in grades. A GPA Addendum to your application basically saying "I finally got my act together, and look at me now, I'm getting A's & B's" would help things along, too.

Keep up the hard work, knock the LSAT out of the park, and pray for a little luck.

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Re: my college grades?

Postby rayiner » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:36 am

You're hosed. No matter what you do you'll likely have a sub-3.0 LSAC GPA when all those F's and C's are factored in. Which means you'll be locked out of most law schools off the bat, and for the rest you need a great LSAT.

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Postby Bildungsroman » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:41 am

All grades earned before being awarded your first bachelors degree are counted in calculating your LSDAS GPA, the standardized GPA calculated by LSAC and submitted to law schools with your applications. This is also the GPA used in ranking law schools and determining their 25th/median/75th GPAs. Your semester of Fs will be calculated into your GPA, as will your community college grades. Find out from your first university whether the withdrawals you have are considered punitive or not. If they are punitive (e.g. withdrawn failing) then they will also be counted as Fs when calculating your GPA.

Calculate your LSDAS GPA here: http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/wp-co ... ulator.htm

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Postby awoken_soul » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:11 am

Okay I just called my school and they said as long as I had withdraw from classes on time those wont be considered punitive. So now I just need to work on my grades and i have one year left. Even though the withdrawals are not punitive, I am still worried about the first semester filled with F's. I hope with all the A's and B's I am making, I should be safe with atleast a 3.4 or 3.5.

Bildungsroman wrote:All grades earned before being awarded your first bachelors degree are counted in calculating your LSDAS GPA, the standardized GPA calculated by LSAC and submitted to law schools with your applications. This is also the GPA used in ranking law schools and determining their 25th/median/75th GPAs. Your semester of Fs will be calculated into your GPA, as will your community college grades. Find out from your first university whether the withdrawals you have are considered punitive or not. If they are punitive (e.g. withdrawn failing) then they will also be counted as Fs when calculating your GPA.

Calculate your LSDAS GPA here: http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/wp-co ... ulator.htm

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Re: my college grades?

Postby awoken_soul » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:12 am

yes, my teacher said the same thing about an addendum and to get the best LSAT score if I want to be admitted to a top tier school.

Hamilton wrote:ah, well. I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure LSAC calculates all of your grades from all institutions attended in your UGPA. That being said, law schools definitely look for upward trends in grades. A GPA Addendum to your application basically saying "I finally got my act together, and look at me now, I'm getting A's & B's" would help things along, too.

Keep up the hard work, knock the LSAT out of the park, and pray for a little luck.

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Re: my college grades?

Postby mlorinczj » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:17 am

awoken_soul wrote:Okay I just called my school and they said as long as I had withdraw from classes on time those wont be considered punitive. So now I just need to work on my grades and i have one year left. Even though the withdrawals are not punitive, I am still worried about the first semester filled with F's. I hope with all the A's and B's I am making, I should be safe with atleast a 3.4 or 3.5.


I hate to burst your bubble, but i also have a few F's on my transcript. According to my calculations each F is going to lower my GPA by .10 At my first Undergrad institution i had a 3.59 on 62 credits, 3.78 on 39 credits at my second institution. That would average to maybe a 3.64ish, then calculating in the 3 F's i'm looking at about a 3.3 Hope this helps you.

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Re: my college grades?

Postby mlorinczj » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:18 am

mlorinczj wrote:
awoken_soul wrote:Okay I just called my school and they said as long as I had withdraw from classes on time those wont be considered punitive. So now I just need to work on my grades and i have one year left. Even though the withdrawals are not punitive, I am still worried about the first semester filled with F's. I hope with all the A's and B's I am making, I should be safe with atleast a 3.4 or 3.5.


I hate to burst your bubble, but i also have a few F's on my transcript, and it gets ugly fast. According to my calculations each F is going to lower my GPA by .10

At my first Undergrad institution i had a 3.59 on 62 credits, 3.78 on 39 credits at my second institution. That would average to maybe a 3.64ish, then calculating in the 3 F's i'm looking at about a 3.3

Hope this helps you.

(sorry bout the double post)

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Re: my college grades?

Postby mst » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:24 pm

I don't really know what you're expecting from us OP? Law schools have standards. Why would you expect them to allow a student who doesn't go to class and fails out of his schools into one of the hardest and most time consuming professions in the world? Not to be a dick here, but one year of A's & B's is not enough to say "Ok, you're a totally different person now. Come on in." Even if it were, that's not fair to the hundred thousand students who are also applying and who have 4 years of A's and B's, and worked their butts off to do it. Why should you be given those 2 years off?

OK, hard stuff out of the way (sorry, you need to hear it straight), you can go to law school. But you can't do so with the expectation that your one/two hard years of work is enough to justify your admission. If you truly do feel that those first years of failures and missed classes are no longer representative of you, then go out into the real world, get a job, succeed in that, get letters commending your work ethic and intelligence, and come back in 2-3 years when you have something to justify admission. I'm sure you can do it if you truly desire it (after all, it will probably be a lot easier than being a law student or lawyer).

Oh yeah, and do really good on the LSAT. Good luck.

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Re: my college grades?

Postby StrictlyLiable » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:29 pm

Yeah the Fs will count against you, retake or not. Find a LSAC GPA calculator and figure your Fs along with the grades you got from the state university. Withdraws don't count against the calculation of GPAs but a lot might count against you as far as admission committees reviewing your transcripts.

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Re: my college grades?

Postby Patriot1208 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:30 pm

Just a quick glance at your records, your probably looking at sub 2.5 LSAC gpa, and that means, you have to ace the LSAT to get into ANY law school, let alone a good one.

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Re: my college grades?

Postby im_blue » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:32 pm

awoken_soul wrote:hahaha I have started to goto class and I am earning A's and B's even in high level courses. But I was asking whether it would effect my chances to get into a good law school and how would LSAC calculate my GPA

That one semester of F's is going to kill you. Assuming you apply after getting 6 semesters of 3.3, the F's would pull you down to 3.3*(6/7) = 2.8.

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Re: my college grades?

Postby Aggiegrad2011 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:25 pm

If you can get a 172+ you'll be in excellent splitter territory...

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Re: my college grades?

Postby acrossthelake » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:30 pm

Plug into calculator. Tell us the GPA it spits out. Then we'll talk.

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Re: my college grades?

Postby whymeohgodno » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:54 pm

Patriot1208 wrote:Just a quick glance at your records, your probably looking at sub 2.5 LSAC gpa, and that means, you have to ace the LSAT to get into ANY law school, let alone a good one.


There's always Cooley.

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Re: my college grades?

Postby Bildungsroman » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:55 pm

whymeohgodno wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:Just a quick glance at your records, your probably looking at sub 2.5 LSAC gpa, and that means, you have to ace the LSAT to get into ANY law school, let alone a good one.


There's always Cooley.


Thread necromancy and a tired Cooley joke. Congratulations, you're too lame for the internet.

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Re: my college grades?

Postby kazu » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:10 pm

The only thing you can really do at this point is to kill the LSAT.... and get straight A(+)s from now on. 1 whole semester of Fs is harsh when even a couple lower your GPA significantly.




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