Best Law School for Texas?

(Please Ask Questions and Answer Questions)
Rawlsian
Posts: 387
Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:53 pm

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby Rawlsian » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:53 am

Someone could look up some of the top firms in Dallas, and post the # of UT and SMU grads at each, including the number of partners. I'm too lazy to do it, but at least then this discussion might get somewhere.

edit: I didn't read the last 10 pages. My bad if this is already worked out. I went ahead and looked up Jones Day-Dallas. SMU=47 grads; UT=51

User avatar
Grizz
Posts: 10583
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:31 pm

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby Grizz » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:09 am

Rawlsian wrote:Someone could look up some of the top firms in Dallas, and post the # of UT and SMU grads at each, including the number of partners. I'm too lazy to do it, but at least then this discussion might get somewhere.

edit: I didn't read the last 10 pages. My bad if this is already worked out. I went ahead and looked up Jones Day-Dallas. SMU=47 grads; UT=51


Haha already happened. Those numbers (a wash between UT and SMU) provoked a discussion about which posters did not understand self-selection.

chrisokc
Posts: 688
Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:43 pm

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby chrisokc » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:31 am

rad law wrote:
Rawlsian wrote:Someone could look up some of the top firms in Dallas, and post the # of UT and SMU grads at each, including the number of partners. I'm too lazy to do it, but at least then this discussion might get somewhere.

edit: I didn't read the last 10 pages. My bad if this is already worked out. I went ahead and looked up Jones Day-Dallas. SMU=47 grads; UT=51


Haha already happened. Those numbers (a wash between UT and SMU) provoked a discussion about which posters did not understand self-selection.

The discussion eventually came to whether SMU/UT is better for TX biglaw than your choice of T-14s, excluding HYS. Then, it's hypotheticals and opinions. Although I was rejected there, I believe that UT is the best overall choice. I prefer can and does over could or should. Of course, this will vary depending on an individual's particular situation. Consideration should be given to connections already established, market preference, networking ability, available financing, etc.

Rawlsian
Posts: 387
Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:53 pm

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby Rawlsian » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:49 am

chrisokc wrote:
rad law wrote:
Rawlsian wrote:Someone could look up some of the top firms in Dallas, and post the # of UT and SMU grads at each, including the number of partners. I'm too lazy to do it, but at least then this discussion might get somewhere.

edit: I didn't read the last 10 pages. My bad if this is already worked out. I went ahead and looked up Jones Day-Dallas. SMU=47 grads; UT=51


Haha already happened. Those numbers (a wash between UT and SMU) provoked a discussion about which posters did not understand self-selection.

The discussion eventually came to whether SMU/UT is better for TX biglaw than your choice of T-14s, excluding HYS. Then, it's hypotheticals and opinions. Although I was rejected there, I believe that UT is the best overall choice. I prefer can and does over could or should. Of course, this will vary depending on an individual's particular situation. Consideration should be given to connections already established, market preference, networking ability, available financing, etc.


Thanks for the update. :) They should have a auto-summary function every 200 posts or so...

User avatar
Stringer Bell
Posts: 1924
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:43 pm

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby Stringer Bell » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:19 pm

I've only read about three total pages of this thread, but are people ITT still trying to make the case that SMU gives you a better shot of Dallas biglaw than UT or most of the T14? I will let you guys know that I spoke with someone awhile back from a Dallas biglaw firm that interviews for associate positons who said that top 15% at SMU is roughly equivalent to top 50% at a T10. A Houston biglaw partner gave me a similar response when comparing UH and a T10.

KG_CalGuy
Posts: 142
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:18 am

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby KG_CalGuy » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:27 pm

Ok so I didn't take the time to read the entire post and make sure this hasn't been posted yet, but perhaps this data could be of some use:

http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/composite.pdf

User avatar
RVP11
Posts: 2774
Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:32 pm

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby RVP11 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:34 pm

KG_CalGuy wrote:Ok so I didn't take the time to read the entire post and make sure this hasn't been posted yet, but perhaps this data could be of some use:

http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/composite.pdf


That's just the NLJ250 chart we see all the time but broken down by region. It's unfortunately not really informative at all other than telling you what % of each school's students stay in their home state. (Example: Penn, 18% in PA.) It doesn't say anything about a school's placement in that specific region.

User avatar
Richie Tenenbaum
Posts: 2162
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:17 am

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby Richie Tenenbaum » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:41 pm


kosherboy2
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:29 am

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby kosherboy2 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:55 pm

The weather in houston is humid...the weather in dallas is unpredictable(we had a snow day a couple of weeks ago) and yes the cost of living is pretty good, but is that really how you want to base where you want to work at? And btw SMU does have a pretty good lock on dallas but im sure you wont have any problems by going to UT

User avatar
vanwinkle
Posts: 9740
Joined: Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:02 am

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby vanwinkle » Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:10 pm

kosherboy2 wrote:And btw SMU does have a pretty good lock on dallas

--ImageRemoved--

User avatar
Stringer Bell
Posts: 1924
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:43 pm

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby Stringer Bell » Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:14 pm

kosherboy2 wrote:The weather in houston is humid...the weather in dallas is unpredictable(we had a snow day a couple of weeks ago) and yes the cost of living is pretty good, but is that really how you want to base where you want to work at? And btw SMU does have a pretty good lock on dallas but im sure you wont have any problems by going to UT


I had a face palm moment until I realized this post came from someone who hasn't even started UG yet.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=101722&p=2359981#p2359981

User avatar
Richie Tenenbaum
Posts: 2162
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:17 am

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby Richie Tenenbaum » Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:27 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
kosherboy2 wrote:And btw SMU does have a pretty good lock on dallas

--ImageRemoved--


We've come full circle!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN7Xs9WV ... re=related

Cue next 5 pages being devoted to what the previous 10 already showed.

chrisokc
Posts: 688
Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:43 pm

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby chrisokc » Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:33 pm

Stringer Bell wrote:I've only read about three total pages of this thread, but are people ITT still trying to make the case that SMU gives you a better shot of Dallas biglaw than UT or most of the T14? I will let you guys know that I spoke with someone awhile back from a Dallas biglaw firm that interviews for associate positons who said that top 15% at SMU is roughly equivalent to top 50% at a T10. A Houston biglaw partner gave me a similar response when comparing UH and a T10.

Am I the only one who thinks this speaks relatively strongly for SMU? I'm not saying that SMU is better than UT for TX biglaw, but I can live with top 15% at SMU being on-par with top 50% at a top-10 school. That sounds pretty fair to me. I'm also one of these idiots who believes it's easier to win fights in a lower weight class.

公诉人
Posts: 15
Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:00 am

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby 公诉人 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:50 pm

Am I the only one who thinks this speaks relatively strongly for SMU?


http://abovethelaw.com/2010/04/smu-law- ... n-warrior/

hth

feel free to read the comments
Last edited by 公诉人 on Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
GordonBombay
Posts: 229
Joined: Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:10 pm

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby GordonBombay » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:55 pm

To go in a kind of different direction:

If one were to transfer with the intent of working in Texas (Austin really) obviously the best option is UT. However, that's not a given for admission. What would be some other options outside of the Texas schools? do AZ/ AZ State place at all in Austin? Looking for fallback/ other transfer options than UT from someone looking to get closer to Texas/ better school

User avatar
kalvano
Posts: 11726
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:24 am

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby kalvano » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:04 pm

GordonBombay wrote:To go in a kind of different direction:

If one were to transfer with the intent of working in Texas (Austin really) obviously the best option is UT. However, that's not a given for admission. What would be some other options outside of the Texas schools? do AZ/ AZ State place at all in Austin? Looking for fallback/ other transfer options than UT from someone looking to get closer to Texas/ better school



Is SMU / UofH / Baylor an option?

Aside from that, perhaps Tulane in Louisiana?

User avatar
Richie Tenenbaum
Posts: 2162
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:17 am

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby Richie Tenenbaum » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:24 pm

公诉人 wrote:
Richie Tenenbaum wrote:Am I the only one who thinks this speaks relatively strongly for SMU?


http://abovethelaw.com/2010/04/smu-law- ... n-warrior/

hth

feel free to read the comments


you quoted the wrong person.

User avatar
GordonBombay
Posts: 229
Joined: Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:10 pm

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby GordonBombay » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:34 pm

kalvano wrote:
GordonBombay wrote:To go in a kind of different direction:

If one were to transfer with the intent of working in Texas (Austin really) obviously the best option is UT. However, that's not a given for admission. What would be some other options outside of the Texas schools? do AZ/ AZ State place at all in Austin? Looking for fallback/ other transfer options than UT from someone looking to get closer to Texas/ better school



Is SMU / UofH / Baylor an option?

Aside from that, perhaps Tulane in Louisiana?


I mentioned SMU to him and Tulane would probably be a good option. A jump to the top 50 in the Texas market would definitely be a nice consolation to UT.


Thanks for the input

User avatar
soonergirl
Posts: 311
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:26 pm

Re: Best Law School for Texas?

Postby soonergirl » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:55 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
kosherboy2 wrote:And btw SMU does have a pretty good lock on dallas

--ImageRemoved--


yeah, that's how I feel when trying to fathom how anyone could want to live in DFW.




Return to “Law School FAQ”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests