Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

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Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby ps494 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:15 pm

I've only been back at school for only a week and a half, and I've already heard probably a dozen people mention that they're going to law school. This is so ridiculous, and it is one of the main reasons for the pathetic state of the legal market. A law degree, it seems, is the new psych degree. Anyone else sick of the ABA giving accreditation to any and all universities that have building filled law textbooks?

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby ughOSU » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:20 pm

ps494 wrote:Anyone else sick of the ABA giving accreditation to any and all universities that have building filled law textbooks?

Yes.

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Postby GATORTIM » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:21 pm

not as sick as I am of people not using the search function on TLS

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby S de Garmeaux » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:22 pm

everyone and their cousins

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby hans3n » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:24 pm

Everyone over 1,000 posts will most likely tell you yes

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby irie » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:31 pm

ps494 wrote:Anyone else sick of the ABA giving accreditation to any and all universities that have building filled law textbooks?


the more law schools there are, the more exclusive the top ones seem. so no, I'm all for it. :lol:

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby GATORTIM » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:35 pm

irie wrote:
ps494 wrote:Anyone else sick of the ABA giving accreditation to any and all universities that have building filled law textbooks?


the more law schools there are, the more exclusive the top ones seem. so no, I'm all for it. :lol:

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby ps494 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:39 pm

Call me a Negative Nancy, but I think we could do without all the law schools outside of the top 100. This would mean doing away with 100 ABA approved law schools, but I think the country could get along fine without them.

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby PDaddy » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:45 pm

I think most people would be better-off with MBA's, which can actually make you rich (or even "wealthy"), are easier to obtain and are more versatile. Law degrees are not nearly as profitable. And let's be real, that's what most law applicants are after, financial security. Most people who apply to law school would not make good lawyers and do not have the passion for it.

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby MTaylor25 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:48 pm

This is actually excellent for all of the applicants who are extremely dedicated and focused. The number of people taking the LSAT w/ little to no preparation is increasing dramatically, as people are panicking and taking this test without really putting in much work. This is very good for people that approach the LSAT and prepare for it like their lives and future at stake.

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby ps494 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:16 pm

PDaddy wrote:I think most people would be better-off with MBA's, which can actually make you rich (or even "wealthy"), are easier to obtain and are more versatile. Law degrees are not nearly as profitable. And let's be real, that's what most law applicants are after, financial security. Most people who apply to law school would not make good lawyers and do not have the passion for it.


TITCR!

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby nycparalegal » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:26 pm

PDaddy wrote:I think most people would be better-off with MBA's, which can actually make you rich (or even "wealthy"), are easier to obtain and are more versatile. Law degrees are not nearly as profitable. And let's be real, that's what most law applicants are after, financial security. Most people who apply to law school would not make good lawyers and do not have the passion for it.


I think most people would be even better off getting an undergraduated degree that will land them an actual job, and not waste their time and money on MBAs and JDs, unless they really need them.

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby Kobe_Teeth » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:27 pm

ps494 wrote:
PDaddy wrote:I think most people would be better-off with MBA's, which can actually make you rich (or even "wealthy"), are easier to obtain and are more versatile. Law degrees are not nearly as profitable. And let's be real, that's what most law applicants are after, financial security. Most people who apply to law school would not make good lawyers and do not have the passion for it.


TITCR!


This is why I'm not nearly as worried as some other people on thee boards. I know caring does not equal good grades but it certainly doesn't hurt.

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby 09042014 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:28 pm

PDaddy wrote:I think most people would be better-off with MBA's, which can actually make you rich (or even "wealthy"), are easier to obtain and are more versatile. Law degrees are not nearly as profitable. And let's be real, that's what most law applicants are after, financial security. Most people who apply to law school would not make good lawyers and do not have the passion for it.


Most MBA's are even more worthless than JD's, if only because at the JD lets someone practice a different career.

If law is T14 or bust, MBA is certainly T20 or bust.

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby ps494 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:31 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
PDaddy wrote:I think most people would be better-off with MBA's, which can actually make you rich (or even "wealthy"), are easier to obtain and are more versatile. Law degrees are not nearly as profitable. And let's be real, that's what most law applicants are after, financial security. Most people who apply to law school would not make good lawyers and do not have the passion for it.


Most MBA's are even more worthless than JD's, if only because at the JD lets someone practice a different career.

If law is T14 or bust, MBA is certainly T20 or bust.


But what is the point of getting you MBA? So you can work in a corporation and make shit? It seems like the people in business that do very well are the ones that started their own business, which obviously does NOT require and MBA.

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby ps494 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:49 pm

Does anyone know if this sudden increase in the number of law schools is recent? How many law schools were there 15 years ago.

FYI There are around 200 ABA approved law schools today.

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby am060459 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:58 pm

a lot of people are considering law school but i believe when they get hit with reality, the LSAT, they run and never look back.

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Postby stratocophic » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:01 pm

nycparalegal wrote:
PDaddy wrote:I think most people would be better-off with MBA's, which can actually make you rich (or even "wealthy"), are easier to obtain and are more versatile. Law degrees are not nearly as profitable. And let's be real, that's what most law applicants are after, financial security. Most people who apply to law school would not make good lawyers and do not have the passion for it.


I think most people would be even better off getting an undergraduated degree that will land them an actual job, and not waste their time and money on MBAs and JDs, unless they really need them.


Yeah, but the people doing this generally are generally either too dumb to do engineering or too greedy to become a teacher.

http://www.payscale.com/best-colleges/degrees.asp

Blatant anti-economics trolling

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby ps494 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:04 pm

am060459 wrote:a lot of people are considering law school but i believe when they get hit with reality, the LSAT, they run and never look back.


I wish that was the case, but these people will usually settle for a tier 4. Everyone knows that going to law schools (any law school) means you're intelligent and that you will eventually be rich.

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby macattaq » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:07 pm

GATORTIM wrote:not as sick as I am of people not using the search function on TLS

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LOLz!

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby Flanker1067 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:07 pm

ps494 wrote:
am060459 wrote:a lot of people are considering law school but i believe when they get hit with reality, the LSAT, they run and never look back.


I wish that was the case, but these people will usually settle for a tier 4. Everyone knows that going to law schools (any law school) means you're intelligent and that you will eventually be rich.



Well said. This is truth.

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby am060459 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:08 pm

ps494 wrote:
am060459 wrote:a lot of people are considering law school but i believe when they get hit with reality, the LSAT, they run and never look back.


I wish that was the case, but these people will usually settle for a tier 4. Everyone knows that going to law schools (any law school) means you're intelligent and that you will eventually be rich.


either way they are helping the people prepared for the lsat or those who do good with a better curve.

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby Aeroplane » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:11 pm

ps494 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
PDaddy wrote:I think most people would be better-off with MBA's, which can actually make you rich (or even "wealthy"), are easier to obtain and are more versatile. Law degrees are not nearly as profitable. And let's be real, that's what most law applicants are after, financial security. Most people who apply to law school would not make good lawyers and do not have the passion for it.


Most MBA's are even more worthless than JD's, if only because at the JD lets someone practice a different career.

If law is T14 or bust, MBA is certainly T20 or bust.


But what is the point of getting you MBA? So you can work in a corporation and make shit? It seems like the people in business that do very well are the ones that started their own business, which obviously does NOT require and MBA.

Some companies and/or public employers will give auto-promotions and/or auto-raises for employees who complete an MBA or a Master's. Some companies make an MBA an informal pre-requisite for promotion at certain levels and don't really care about its quality. Some companies pay for MBA's and consider it a significant "soft" in evaluating/promoting their employees. However, if a person is not in one of those specific situations, I generally agree with the T__ or bust mentality for b-school, except I think T20 is probably way over-generous.

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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby Flanker1067 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:11 pm

am060459 wrote:
ps494 wrote:
am060459 wrote:a lot of people are considering law school but i believe when they get hit with reality, the LSAT, they run and never look back.


I wish that was the case, but these people will usually settle for a tier 4. Everyone knows that going to law schools (any law school) means you're intelligent and that you will eventually be rich.


either way they are helping the people prepared for the lsat or those who do good with a better curve.


This isn't true though. Just because more people are taking the LSAT unprepared, doesn't mean you stand a better shot at any schools. You may end up in a better percentile, however law schools at the top don't say to themselves "oh 25% more people took the LSAT this year so we should make our classes 25% larger". No, in fact, the raw numbers of good scorers also go up and competition for the top seats stiffen.
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Re: Is EVERYONE applying to law school these days?

Postby DoubleChecks » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:11 pm

ps494 wrote:I've only been back at school for only a week and a half, and I've already heard probably a dozen people mention that they're going to law school. This is so ridiculous, and it is one of the main reasons for the pathetic state of the legal market. A law degree, it seems, is the new psych degree. Anyone else sick of the ABA giving accreditation to any and all universities that have building filled law textbooks?


z0mg, im going to have both o.O




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