who is more impressive to you:

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which impresses you more?

top 5% + Law review at TTT like Drake/Albany/Mercer/NYLS
81
21%
top top 1/2 to 1/3 + Secondary Journal at lower T14 like GULC/Duke/Cornell
302
79%
 
Total votes: 383

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby harvey2L » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:06 pm

kn6542 wrote:I'm really impressed with myself.

:roll:

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby kn6542 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:13 pm

harvey2L wrote:
kn6542 wrote:I'm really impressed with myself.

:roll:

I'm gonna guess sbrown.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby ArkansasFan » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:46 am

kn6542 wrote:
harvey2L wrote:
kn6542 wrote:I'm really impressed with myself.

:roll:

I'm gonna guess sbrown.

sbrown?

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby Ragged » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:04 am

The latter.

Hiring prospects would be at least comparable in both cases (right?). But...

Name of the school you went to sticks with you for the rest of your life (I imagine). You will always be a Cornell/Duke/GULC graduate instead of NYLS graduate, and I think there is some pride to be had in that (at least for me), and more importantly could be used for picking up girls at a bar.

Also, all friends/connections you make at LS are also going to be from C/D/G instead of NYLS and I image that, on average, connections from T14 are going to more useful than connections from TOP100.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby chadwick218 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:25 am

Drake/Albany/Mercer/NYLS are not good examples. For an interesting discussion, I would use compare very low rated T1 schools with against the bottom half of the T-14.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby GoTribe1 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:12 am

Latter any day of the week. Even if the gap in the quality of education from a T14 to a TTT is not as large as the rankings suggest, and even if graduation-day opportunities are comparable in each scenario, earning your JD from a school like Georgetown/Duke will favorably impact your life in subtle ways forevermore. It raises eyebrows. It's a credential that demands respect. Especially if you're on a secondary journal there. Granted law review and top 5% is a great accomplishment anywhere, but people are prestige whores. Not to mention that the relative intelligence level of your peers will differ substantially, and as somebody mentioned the contacts/friendships you make here can have a great impact on your life going forward.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby englawyer » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:36 am

change it from top 5% to literally #1 and the nod goes to NYLS. as it stands, lower T14

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby kittenmittons » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:43 am

englawyer wrote:change it from top 5% to literally #1 and the nod goes to NYLS. as it stands, lower T14


It's hard to get #1 when you go to school in the Village though. So many fun things to do

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby TTH » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:54 am

I'm just astounded that 50 people voted for the former.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby englawyer » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:12 pm

TipTravHoot wrote:I'm just astounded that 50 people voted for the former.


keep in mind most people have a horse in this race.

The folks going to T14 are going to be biased towards the latter, as they want to feel smart about their investment.

The folks going to non-T14 are going to be biased towards the former, as they want to feel not-screwed.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby Blindmelon » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:24 pm

englawyer wrote:
TipTravHoot wrote:I'm just astounded that 50 people voted for the former.


keep in mind most people have a horse in this race.

The folks going to T14 are going to be biased towards the latter, as they want to feel smart about their investment.

The folks going to non-T14 are going to be biased towards the former, as they want to feel not-screwed.


Not me. I'm not at a T14 and I think the T14 is more impressive. The schools listed have negative prestige. Thats a tough sell no matter where you are in the class.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby ranovr32 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:32 pm

First of all there is absolutely no shot at an "Elite" BigLaw job, even if you are in the top 5% at TTT. You can just go look up the statistics at NALP. I would be willing to bet the bottom 30 kids at any top 14 get better jobs and do much better in the long run. You might get that freak of a chance #1 who makes it into big law but out of a school like U of Florida or U of Georgia, try that out of Stetson or Cooley and let me know how that works out.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby Borhas » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:57 pm

Top 5% in a group of people that are probably extremely competitive is slightly more impressive than middle of the pack at a school where employment prospects are so much better (and thus less of a need for cut throat competition). Top 1/3 I'd go with T-14, but median I'll go with the TTT grad.

If you ask which one is better off, in general probably the T-14 grad, but that's not how I interpreted the question.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby RVP11 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:43 pm

Borhas wrote:Top 5% in a group of people that are probably extremely competitive is slightly more impressive than middle of the pack at a school where employment prospects are so much better (and thus less of a need for cut throat competition). Top 1/3 I'd go with T-14, but median I'll go with the TTT grad.

If you ask which one is better off, in general probably the T-14 grad, but that's not how I interpreted the question.


ITE, people at T14s that don't begin with "Ya", "Harv", or "Stan" are probably just as competitive as are people at low ranked schools. And these schools have people who are better at being competitive.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby como » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:02 pm

JSUVA2012 wrote:
Borhas wrote:Top 5% in a group of people that are probably extremely competitive is slightly more impressive than middle of the pack at a school where employment prospects are so much better (and thus less of a need for cut throat competition). Top 1/3 I'd go with T-14, but median I'll go with the TTT grad.

If you ask which one is better off, in general probably the T-14 grad, but that's not how I interpreted the question.


ITE, people at T14s that don't begin with "Ya", "Harv", or "Stan" are probably just as competitive as are people at low ranked schools. And these schools have people who are better at being competitive.


+1

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby ranovr32 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:51 pm

JSUVA2012 wrote:
Borhas wrote:Top 5% in a group of people that are probably extremely competitive is slightly more impressive than middle of the pack at a school where employment prospects are so much better (and thus less of a need for cut throat competition). Top 1/3 I'd go with T-14, but median I'll go with the TTT grad.

If you ask which one is better off, in general probably the T-14 grad, but that's not how I interpreted the question.


ITE, people at T14s that don't begin with "Ya", "Harv", or "Stan" are probably just as competitive as are people at low ranked schools. And these schools have people who are better at being competitive.

Its law school of course its competitive. And what you think the people at HYS are less competitive? How the hell did you think they got there?
Long answer short, its easy to put it in an analogy:
Whats more impressive, having a batting average in the top 5% in the history of the Florida Marlins or the top1/3 of the Yankees?
Its easy to be at the top when your going to school with a bunch of kids that suck.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby Borhas » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:48 pm

I don't believe that most of the people that go to TTT's are a "bunch of kids that suck."
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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby kittenmittons » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:50 pm

Borhas wrote:[strike]I don't believe that[/strike] most of the people that go to TTT's are a bunch of "kids that suck."

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby jnorsky » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:50 pm

If you go to albany law, you suck

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby Borhas » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:50 pm

kittenmittons wrote:
Borhas wrote:[strike]I don't believe that[/strike] most of the people that go to TTT's are a bunch of "kids that suck."


Send this man to YSH!

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby kittenmittons » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:53 pm

Borhas wrote:
kittenmittons wrote:
Borhas wrote:[strike]I don't believe that[/strike] most of the people that go to TTT's are a bunch of "kids that suck."


Send this man to YSH!


obvious Stanford troll is obvious

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby Borhas » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:56 pm

kittenmittons wrote:
Borhas wrote:
kittenmittons wrote:
Borhas wrote:[strike]I don't believe that[/strike] most of the people that go to TTT's are a bunch of "kids that suck."


Send this man to YSH!


obvious Stanford troll is obvious


thanks for noticing 8)

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby RVP11 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:29 pm

ranovr32 wrote:
JSUVA2012 wrote:
Borhas wrote:Top 5% in a group of people that are probably extremely competitive is slightly more impressive than middle of the pack at a school where employment prospects are so much better (and thus less of a need for cut throat competition). Top 1/3 I'd go with T-14, but median I'll go with the TTT grad.

If you ask which one is better off, in general probably the T-14 grad, but that's not how I interpreted the question.


ITE, people at T14s that don't begin with "Ya", "Harv", or "Stan" are probably just as competitive as are people at low ranked schools. And these schools have people who are better at being competitive.

Its law school of course its competitive. And what you think the people at HYS are less competitive? How the hell did you think they got there?
Long answer short, its easy to put it in an analogy:
Whats more impressive, having a batting average in the top 5% in the history of the Florida Marlins or the top1/3 of the Yankees?
Its easy to be at the top when your going to school with a bunch of kids that suck.


The people I know at Yale are definitely not competitive. I sometimes wonder if they actually learn anything. I don't know anyone at Harvard or Stanford. My guess is that Harvard is probably as competitive as the lower T14s (thanks to mandatory LP), while Stanford is somewhere between barely-conscious Yale and gun-your-heart-out CCNMVPDCNG.
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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby Ethan Edwards » Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:32 pm

Former.

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Re: who is more impressive to you:

Postby Renaixença » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:14 pm

ranovr32 wrote: Whats more impressive, having a batting average in the top 5% in the history of the Florida Marlins or the top1/3 of the Yankees? Its easy to be at the top when your going to school with a bunch of kids that suck.


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