Renzo wrote:Cloud9 wrote:So according to you d-cannon, anyone that is going through the process of considering LS and evaluating options towards their objectives should just put on the horse blinders take the LSAT, apply to LS, and hope for the best?
I prefer to look at as many angles as possible, discuss them, study them, etc. weigh the pros and cons of various options, look at potential outcomes, and so on before making a decision as to how to proceed.
If that makes me a troll, so be it.
I just found the ABA info on only 40% of JDs working as lawyers. Those kind of numbers are surprising to me, perhaps because I haven't looked into law in the past. Maybe it's old hat to all of you, but not to me. I put it out there for discussion. Specially given the fact that I sit here evaluating this LS option because my job went to India. So you better believe I'm going to look at the end of the pipeline and see what's coming out in terms of options, odds, chances, etc. to make some money, specially when weighing the $200k+? cost of a T14 law school.
EDIT: And yes, in this process, I found out - today - that one can become a patent attorney without LS. So I just threw it out there for discussion. If nothing else, it's a pretty amazing option if you're poor, no means, no possibility of law school, etc.
40% seems about right. That's how over-saturated the job market for lawyers is. When 40% of law school grads can't get jobs, do you really think that 63 people in the entire state of California who have passed the bar by reading the law means it's "an amazing option?"
That 40% that the ABA mentions isn't LS grads, it's all JD holders. I'm not disputing the ABA's numbers, I just find them almost incredible to believe. That's an enormous number of JD holders that don't work as lawyers.
You might have misunderstood what I meant by "amazing option". What I find amazing about becoming a lawyer without law school is that the option is available at all. If you're dirt poor and have no options whatsoever, but happen to be a hard, dedicated worker, this may be your only venue. For those 63 people it became their only viable option.
Maybe other fields have such an option to skip engineering school and become an engineer, or medical school and become a doctor, I've just never heard of it before. Don't you find the idea (even if it's not for most and few pass) that one can become a lawyer without law school "amazing"?
I think it's great that it presents an opportunity for those that otherwise would have no option.
I also find it "amazing" that so few (40%) work as lawyers after the JD. I would have thought it to be much, much higher. I can't imagine that it would be so few in other professions such as an MD. Then again, they probably owe a ton more money than a LS.....