The Abyss wrote:Scalvert wrote:The Abyss wrote:Anyone get any grades back except for legal writing?
I heard sec A has theirs.
Damn. I think I'm going to break my f5 key refreshing YES.
Sec B or C?
The Abyss wrote:Scalvert wrote:The Abyss wrote:Anyone get any grades back except for legal writing?
I heard sec A has theirs.
Damn. I think I'm going to break my f5 key refreshing YES.
Scalvert wrote:The Abyss wrote:Scalvert wrote:The Abyss wrote:Anyone get any grades back except for legal writing?
I heard sec A has theirs.
Damn. I think I'm going to break my f5 key refreshing YES.
Sec B or C?
jumbocolumbo wrote:Anyone know what the median is supposed to be? Seems like 3.3ish, maybe 3.4?
arklaw13 wrote:It's somewhere between the two, closer to a 3.4.
do_me_a_favor wrote:arklaw13 wrote:jumbocolumbo wrote:Anyone know what the median is supposed to be? Seems like 3.3ish, maybe 3.4?
It's somewhere between the two, closer to a 3.4.
would take this with a grain of salt, i've heard it's closer to 3.3 than 3.4. but apparently it's available in the library??
do_me_a_favor wrote:arklaw13 wrote:If they put the information in the library, they did it since I've graduated. There was some outdated information when I was there, but the curve has changed since then.
The percentages of students that are supposed to be given each grade were leaked by some visiting professor when I was there. You can do some math based on those and figure what the median should be for a given class. It is closer to a 3.4 than 3.3, but could vary slightly because there's probably still a certain amount of discretion involved.
that grade curve is now available in the student handbook--so we do know exactly what the grade distribution should be, but unfortunately that's not enough to calculate the median using only the dean's list cutoff. unless there's some mathematical formula idk about lol.
also, apparently the professors are allowed to jigger with the grade distribution and so it's not a guarantee they all use the numbers used in the student handbook. this basically destroys any chance at precisely calculating the GPA levels---again, unless im missing something key.
i just doubt it's 3.4 median because my friend with a 3.5 (idk what it was exactly but it was def 3.5 and not much over) got an invite to PDP as well, meaning she's probably top third at that GPA. would just one point in GPA separate 33% and 50%??? that feels strange. plus a 3.4 is greater than a b+ average, which more than half the class has.
arklaw13 wrote:do_me_a_favor wrote:arklaw13 wrote:If they put the information in the library, they did it since I've graduated. There was some outdated information when I was there, but the curve has changed since then.
The percentages of students that are supposed to be given each grade were leaked by some visiting professor when I was there. You can do some math based on those and figure what the median should be for a given class. It is closer to a 3.4 than 3.3, but could vary slightly because there's probably still a certain amount of discretion involved.
that grade curve is now available in the student handbook--so we do know exactly what the grade distribution should be, but unfortunately that's not enough to calculate the median using only the dean's list cutoff. unless there's some mathematical formula idk about lol.
also, apparently the professors are allowed to jigger with the grade distribution and so it's not a guarantee they all use the numbers used in the student handbook. this basically destroys any chance at precisely calculating the GPA levels---again, unless im missing something key.
i just doubt it's 3.4 median because my friend with a 3.5 (idk what it was exactly but it was def 3.5 and not much over) got an invite to PDP as well, meaning she's probably top third at that GPA. would just one point in GPA separate 33% and 50%??? that feels strange. plus a 3.4 is greater than a b+ average, which more than half the class has.
When you say that the handbook has the "grade curve," what exactly do you mean?
Big Red wrote:3.5 was also good enough for PDP in the 1L class last year (which is top third), but I can tell you that 3.7 didn't grade on to VLR (~top 10%) and would bet that 3.8 did.
do_me_a_favor wrote:arklaw13 wrote:If they put the information in the library, they did it since I've graduated. There was some outdated information when I was there, but the curve has changed since then.
jumbocolumbo wrote:I can't seem to find this info, but do we know roughly when we hear about journals including ELPAR?
jumbocolumbo wrote:I can't seem to find this info, but do we know roughly when we hear about journals including ELPAR?
The_Lorax wrote:Big Red wrote:3.5 was also good enough for PDP in the 1L class last year (which is top third), but I can tell you that 3.7 didn't grade on to VLR (~top 10%) and would bet that 3.8 did.
With the >200 person class this year I'd be pretty surprised if 3.8 graded onto Law Review this year unless a bunch of the top take the write on spots too.
Big Red wrote:I think you're underestimating just how much of the class is in the range of 3.3-3.5 due to the sheer volume of B+s handed out. It's important to keep in mind that the curve loosens up after your first year but is, by design, very tight.
3.5 was also good enough for PDP in the 1L class last year (which is top third), but I can tell you that 3.7 didn't grade on to VLR (~top 10%) and would bet that 3.8 did.
I've heard nothing about coif, but would guess (which much less confidence than that a 3.8 gets on VLR) that it's in the mid 3.8 range. I'm pretty sure Vandy doesn't have any latin, which is a shame, but I do honestly believe the curve helps people in the 3.4-3.5 range get jobs.
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