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How successful have you been at forcing yourself to care about grades?

lol
6
11%
... I mean I still need to graduate... I guess...
13
23%
I want to maintain some semblance of dignity
25
45%
I am a clerkship gunner and/or incorrigible perfectionist
12
21%
 
Total votes: 56

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby leslieknope » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:30 pm

Obligatory "salty because the title changed but we still don't have grades" post.

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby PeanutsNJam » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:39 pm

leslieknope wrote:Obligatory "salty because the title changed but we still don't have grades" post.


are you really even waiting on grades though

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby Indifference » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:09 pm

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Re: Fa1Lure is Imminent

Postby landshoes » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:24 pm

zhenders wrote:
Kinky John wrote:uchichago ppl shitting up this thread with words like "opaque" and "granularity"


Sad facts. #itswhatwedo


look, we have to make up for the fact that we'll never get an A somehow

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Re: Fa1Lure is Imminent

Postby daedalus2309 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:32 pm

landshoes wrote:
zhenders wrote:
Kinky John wrote:uchichago ppl shitting up this thread with words like "opaque" and "granularity"


Sad facts. #itswhatwedo


look, we have to make up for the fact that we'll never get an A somehow


No, I love the rigor

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby Hikikomorist » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:42 pm

Can we have a poll asking if people out/underperformed their LSAT prediction? And then a similar poll asking about UGPA?

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby Gray » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:33 pm

Wahrheit wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:Can we have a poll asking if people out/underperformed their LSAT prediction? And then a similar poll asking about UGPA?

no

why not?

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby Kinky John » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:36 pm

Gray wrote:
Wahrheit wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:Can we have a poll asking if people out/underperformed their LSAT prediction? And then a similar poll asking about UGPA?

no

why not?


Yeah I think this would be interesting

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby zhenders » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:21 pm

Kinky John wrote:
Gray wrote:
Wahrheit wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:Can we have a poll asking if people out/underperformed their LSAT prediction? And then a similar poll asking about UGPA?

no

why not?


Yeah I think this would be interesting


I think so! And no one is obliged to participate of course =)

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby downbeat14 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:34 pm

mujiali wrote:
PeanutsNJam wrote:
leslieknope wrote:Obligatory "salty because the title changed but we still don't have grades" post.


are you really even waiting on grades though


Yes. I want to know exactly how average I am.


This 100%. Just put me out of my misery.

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby OhBoyOhBortles » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:47 pm

Gray wrote:
Wahrheit wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:Can we have a poll asking if people out/underperformed their LSAT prediction? And then a similar poll asking about UGPA?

no

why not?


Prediction: All respodents wildly outperformed their LSAT prediction on TLS poll.

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby landshoes » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:49 pm

Hikikomorist wrote:Can we have a poll asking if people out/underperformed their LSAT prediction? And then a similar poll asking about UGPA?


Can you explain this more?

(I recently read an interesting paper that said that the LSAT would be even more predictive if it didn't determine where people would be admitted, which I thought was an interesting point.)

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby Hikikomorist » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:57 pm

landshoes wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:Can we have a poll asking if people out/underperformed their LSAT prediction? And then a similar poll asking about UGPA?


Can you explain this more?

(I recently read an interesting paper that said that the LSAT would be even more predictive if it didn't determine where people would be admitted, which I thought was an interesting point.)

Yeah, range restriction is huge.

As for an explanation, I'm just bummed about how my semester went and wanted to have company in misery.

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby landshoes » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:06 am

oh ok I just want to know how you would go about it

like, taking our LSAT or GPA comparison to school medians? and then comparing our grades to the median grades?

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby landshoes » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:06 am

I am sorry that you are disappointed

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby buckiguy_sucks » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:13 am

OhBoyOhBortles wrote:
Gray wrote:
Wahrheit wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:Can we have a poll asking if people out/underperformed their LSAT prediction? And then a similar poll asking about UGPA?

no

why not?


Prediction: All respodents wildly outperformed their LSAT prediction on TLS poll.

?

My understanding is that if you were say above the median LSAT then ended with median grades you would not have wildly outperformed your LSAT prediction you would not be wildly outperforming which I'm sure is a very common TLS outcome

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the q

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby Hikikomorist » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:14 am

landshoes wrote:oh ok I just want to know how you would go about it

like, taking our LSAT or GPA comparison to school medians? and then comparing our grades to the median grades?

Yeah, it would be relative to school 25ths/50ths/75ths.

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby DCfilterDC » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:06 am

I think the poll is a funny idea, I don't get why some of y'all are so uptight about this stuff.

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby 03152016 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:46 am

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby 03152016 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:47 am

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby Joscellin » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:26 am

Brut wrote:last year the 1L thread did a big poll
which resulted in this: http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 8&t=243104


That's a whole lot more detailed than I had expected it to be

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby OhBoyOhBortles » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:38 am

buckiguy_sucks wrote:
OhBoyOhBortles wrote:
Gray wrote:
Wahrheit wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:Can we have a poll asking if people out/underperformed their LSAT prediction? And then a similar poll asking about UGPA?

no

why not?


Prediction: All respodents wildly outperformed their LSAT prediction on TLS poll.

?

My understanding is that if you were say above the median LSAT then ended with median grades you would not have wildly outperformed your LSAT prediction you would not be wildly outperforming which I'm sure is a very common TLS outcome

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the q


I'm just assuming, based off of how lounge polls go, that not everyone was going to be 100% honest with their results. See: 1L thread last year where 33% of respondents are in top 10% of their class, and over half are in the top 25%. Is it impossible, no. Is it unlikely to be true? I mean...

That said, I'm up for the poll if everyone else is.

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Re: The 1Lephant in the Room: Are You Dropping Out

Postby Hand » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:51 am

OhBoyOhBortles wrote:
buckiguy_sucks wrote:
OhBoyOhBortles wrote:
Gray wrote:
Wahrheit wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:Can we have a poll asking if people out/underperformed their LSAT prediction? And then a similar poll asking about UGPA?

no

why not?


Prediction: All respodents wildly outperformed their LSAT prediction on TLS poll.

?

My understanding is that if you were say above the median LSAT then ended with median grades you would not have wildly outperformed your LSAT prediction you would not be wildly outperforming which I'm sure is a very common TLS outcome

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the q


I'm just assuming, based off of how lounge polls go, that not everyone was going to be 100% honest with their results. See: 1L thread last year where 33% of respondents are in top 10% of their class, and over half are in the top 25%. Is it impossible, no. Is it unlikely to be true? I mean...

That said, I'm up for the poll if everyone else is.

Yeah, sure, bring it. Bortles, don't forget how there's a strong self-selection as to both who finds themselves on here in the first place, and to who ends up still posting after a year--TLS is gunners' paradise, even if we all want to believe we are cool sociable gunners.

As to the question, while I'm above median after last semester, my LSAT relative to that of my class mates would've predicted me being much closer to PnJ-territory than I in fact am.




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