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FloridaCoastalorbust · Post by **FloridaCoastalorbust** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:26 pm

leslieknope wrote:Trying to get this memo down to 7 pages from 9 feels like trying to put on Spanx after Thanksgiving. It just won't fit, and I don't particularly want it to.

this was me last wknd. except it had to be 4 pgs. you can't say shit in 4 pages.

haus · Post by **haus** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:58 pm

FloridaCoastalorbust wrote:
leslieknope wrote:Trying to get this memo down to 7 pages from 9 feels like trying to put on Spanx after Thanksgiving. It just won't fit, and I don't particularly want it to.
this was me last wknd. except it had to be 4 pgs. you can't say shit in 4 pages.

The Declaration of Indepence would be about four pages.

rnoodles · Post by **rnoodles** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:11 pm

haus wrote:
FloridaCoastalorbust wrote:
leslieknope wrote:Trying to get this memo down to 7 pages from 9 feels like trying to put on Spanx after Thanksgiving. It just won't fit, and I don't particularly want it to.
this was me last wknd. except it had to be 4 pgs. you can't say shit in 4 pages.
The Declaration of Indepence would be about four pages.

This was a great response hahaha

03282016 · Post by **03282016** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:29 pm

Kinky John · Post by **Kinky John** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:50 pm

Wahrheit wrote:Panel during orientation today could potentially be titled "How and why not to be a gunner"

How not to be a gunner
Only raise your hand if it is more than a minute before the end of the class and you are:
1) asking a question that will help you understand the current material; or
2) providing an answer to the professor's current question that only references the current material.

Why not
Ain't nobody got time fo yo shit

03282016 · Post by **03282016** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:56 pm

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:05 pm

Wahrheit wrote:Panel during orientation today could potentially be titled "How and why not to be a gunner"

Ugh, I wish UChi wouldn't have presentations like this.

Spoiler alert: there will still be gunners.

03282016 · Post by **03282016** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:08 pm

unsweetened · Post by **unsweetened** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:54 pm

My section has been labeled the gunner section. Exam week will be a bloodbath, I'm sure of it.
Met a 3L today who helped me out with talking exam strategy and outlining organization for Crim (allegedly got the highest grade in the class), which was pretty awesome. Hard to believe that I'm in week 6 of class.

radio1nowhere · Post by **radio1nowhere** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:08 pm

leslieknope wrote:Trying to get this memo down to 7 pages from 9 feels like trying to put on Spanx after Thanksgiving. It just won't fit, and I don't particularly want it to.

This ended up being just as hard as writing the damn thing in the first place

andthenIwaslike · Post by **andthenIwaslike** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:12 pm

Kinky John wrote:
Wahrheit wrote:Panel during orientation today could potentially be titled "How and why not to be a gunner"
How not to be a gunner
Only raise your hand if it is more than a minute before the end of the class and you are:
1) asking a question that will help you understand the current material; or
2) providing an answer to the professor's current question that only references the current material.

THIS. Oh, did you work on something similar before law school so you're pretty sure XYZ minor loophole applies and would solve the whole thing? NOBODY CARES.

PeanutsNJam · Post by **PeanutsNJam** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:24 pm

Better tip. Don't raise your hand at all. If you have a question, write it down. Collect questions, then visit office hours and ask the professor. It serves 2 purposes.

Primary reason: Your question is probably worthless, and will be a waste of time. If it's about something you don't understand and need clarity, you'll get a more detailed and tailored response in a 1 on 1 session. You can be more bold and straight up ask "will this be on the exam?", or "Would you say the articulation of the rule from Case A is ~~this~~?"

Secondary reason: If your question is somehow the epitome of an ~inquisitive scholar's mind~, the answer to which will result in more points on your final exam, you don't want everybody else knowing your silver bullets. Although my professors negate this reason by saying if you ask something important in office hours, they'll give the same info to the whole class the next day anyway.

03282016 · Post by **03282016** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:28 pm

xylocarp · Post by **xylocarp** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:33 pm

So who's outlining

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:37 pm

xylocarp wrote:So who's outlining

How to outline (for the person who hates outlining):

1) use the syllabus as the major Roman numerals

2) take class notes directly into outline

3) delete excess later

4) thank me come finals when you don't have to make an entire outline from scratch

Around finals I spent the majority of my time reorganizing and structuring my outline so that it would actually be useful. I can tolorate formatting much more than just robotically copying my notes. I found that I would actually learn the material better this way also.

A. Nony Mouse · Post by **A. Nony Mouse** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:40 pm

PeanutsNJam wrote:Better tip. Don't raise your hand at all. If you have a question, write it down. Collect questions, then visit office hours and ask the professor. It serves 2 purposes.

Primary reason: Your question is probably worthless, and will be a waste of time. If it's about something you don't understand and need clarity, you'll get a more detailed and tailored response in a 1 on 1 session. You can be more bold and straight up ask "will this be on the exam?", or "Would you say the articulation of the rule from Case A is ~~this~~?"

Secondary reason: If your question is somehow the epitome of an ~inquisitive scholar's mind~, the answer to which will result in more points on your final exam, you don't want everybody else knowing your silver bullets. Although my professors negate this reason by saying if you ask something important in office hours, they'll give the same info to the whole class the next day anyway.

Actual questions about what you don't understand are totally fine. It's just that "But WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE???" and "What if it was a cheetah instead of a fox??" are not actual questions.

Also, if you volunteer answers to profs' questions, you are much much much less likely to get cold-called.

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:43 pm

Hard case re: gunning

If the class gives points for participation, and these points are given at the professors discretion without any firm guidelines, I'd walk the line of gunning in that class. A B+ to an A- for raising your hand once a day? I'd take that any day of the week.

Leonardo DiCaprio · Post by **Leonardo DiCaprio** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:45 pm

xylocarp wrote:So who's outlining

sup

unsweetened · Post by **unsweetened** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:49 pm

xylocarp wrote:So who's outlining

I thought about it. Does that count?

radio1nowhere wrote:
leslieknope wrote:Trying to get this memo down to 7 pages from 9 feels like trying to put on Spanx after Thanksgiving. It just won't fit, and I don't particularly want it to.
This ended up being just as hard as writing the damn thing in the first place

I thought it's been the easiest part about law school so far?

Leonardo DiCaprio · Post by **Leonardo DiCaprio** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:52 pm

do y'all study at the library or at home

unsweetened · Post by **unsweetened** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:01 pm

Leonardo DiCaprio wrote:do y'all study at the library or at home

Both

Library
+Fast internet
+Office supplies like staplers, ear plugs, etc. available
+Close to my locker, so it's easy to swap textbooks
+Get to meet new and interesting people
+Comfortable chairs
+Designated quiet areas
-Sometimes gets really loud
-People can be distracting
-Have to wear clothes

Home
+Don't have to wear clothes
+Food available
+Supplements available for reference
+Easy to stay focused
+Don't have to hold in farts
-No office supplies
-Loud neighbors that suck at life

I have had really good luck with going to my first class an hour or two early if I want a quiet place for a while.

PeanutsNJam · Post by **PeanutsNJam** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:55 pm

Leonardo DiCaprio wrote:
xylocarp wrote:So who's outlining
sup

one of my profs is already offering an outside of class outlining session where he teaches how to outline for his course specifically. Optional, but to attend you have to already made an outline so far. I think now's a good time to start outlining because I'm already starting to forget the things we discussed in class at the start of the semester.

DJM · Post by **DJM** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:28 pm

xylocarp wrote:So who's outlining

I 'borrowed' some from a clubs website that were supposed to only be for club members. And got the rest from 2/3Ls with high grades.

bieberfeva · Post by **bieberfeva** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:56 pm

every time i walk out of civ pro I'm like wtf just happened

leslieknope · Post by **leslieknope** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:02 pm

bieberfeva wrote:every time i walk out of civ pro I'm like wtf just happened

Me when Property

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