What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

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What laptop will you use for 1L?

MacBook Air
120
32%
MacBook Pro
162
43%
Lenovo Yoga
17
5%
Lenovo Flex
7
2%
Dell XPS
27
7%
Asus Zenbook
13
3%
Toshiba Chromebook
8
2%
Surface Pro
18
5%
Samsung ATIV
2
1%
 
Total votes: 374

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KMart
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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby KMart » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:19 pm

Pen and paper for me for in the class, but for everything else I'm upgrading my Macbook Pro to the new Mac that recently came out. My current one is about 5 years old and has just been through too much. It's really on it's last legs and I don't think it would make it through 3 years, so I figured I might as well upgrade now. My mom got the new Mac for Christmas and I seriously never realized how light they are becoming; I guess I haven't lifted one in awhile.

I'd imagine that would make it through the next 3 years.

I have an iPad but I don't use it often for school-related work. It's possible, but I find it too difficult to do hand-written notes. Maybe if I had a keyboard it'd be possible. Maybe I'll try it this quarter of UG. My job people use tablets for remote access and seem to love it, I don't have one so I can't speak beyond that. My .02 about the tablet debate.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby rinkrat19 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:20 pm

Lately as a 3L, I've witnessed some Mac people running into "real world" situations where they can't do something. My trial techniques class is taught at a law firm and we're using TrialMax (PC-only trial presentation software), and in clinic, a classmate couldn't do the required doc review because the disk of e-discovery we got from the prosecutors required a PC to open and run.

Obviously these are specific situations that won't apply to everyone, but I think they're kind of indicative of life after law school. You may very well be forced to use a PC when you start working. It's not a completely terrible idea to get to know how to use them properly before then. And there are some very nice PC ultrabooks and convertibles.

I have a Surface 2 and although I love it, I would NOT use it on exams (we don't use Examsoft so I would technically be able to). I have a 15" HP laptop that I carry to class 90% of the time. Anything that slows down your typing is bad for a 1L exam. Small keyboards, tablet keyboards, tiny screens, etc.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby curlietop86 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:35 pm

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby stoopkid13 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:10 pm

Anyone else holding out to see what happens with the new Skylake processors? Think its worth waiting until right before school in August (or even September)?

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby misskatejd » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:23 pm

Gray wrote:
buckiguy_sucks wrote:
Eladriel wrote:Pen and paper for me.


For in class notes +1, can't focus for shit with a laptop out

+1.



same, and my laptop is HUGE, would be super awkward to take up that much room at my seat

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby FuturePanhandler » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:32 pm

Was hoping to get through LS with my Macbook Pro (early 2011 model), but it's just running so slow. Would like to try to sell it and get something new. Anybody have any experience selling a used Macbook Pro and have any idea what I would be able to get for mine?

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby rinkrat19 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:44 pm

misskatejd wrote:same, and my laptop is HUGE, would be super awkward to take up that much room at my seat
FWIW, my backup laptop is a massive 17"er and I have carried it to class. Literally nobody gives a shit.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby altf4 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:44 am

My current laptop will be 2.5 years old when I start this fall, and I don't want to have to rely on a PC lasting 5 1/2 years, no matter how awesome its condition is right now. I'll probably give this to a sibling and buy a new one.

What do you think are the most important factors to consider when buying a new laptop?

For me personally, it'll be 1) portability (weight and then size), 2) specs (good memory, enough disk space, preferably SSD) 3) battery life, and 4) price.

Actually looking at the LG Gram:
http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/review/lg ... 40/537932/

Or maybe go for the 15" for extra battery life.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby RubyRod » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:40 pm

FuturePanhandler wrote:Was hoping to get through LS with my Macbook Pro (early 2011 model), but it's just running so slow. Would like to try to sell it and get something new. Anybody have any experience selling a used Macbook Pro and have any idea what I would be able to get for mine?


I have a macbook pro from 2008 that only really started slowing down this year. I did get a new media card, and a new hard drive right before my warranty ran out though (2010). My advice, keep it unless you can find someone who will give you a good chunk of money for it, which is highly doubtful. Trading in your laptop will get you next to no money and MBPs are really great machines. Take it to a local shop, NOT APPLE, but the awesome computer store with apple specialists. The one in my town call themselves Mac Gurus. My computer just needs a ram upgrade and then a software upgrade. If you're running Maverick, you may just be asking too much of an old ram. The store here will replace it and upgrade all the software for $100.

At any rate the lack of $$ you will get from a trade in, a lot of people have opted to keep the Mac as a second computer. Dump the entire contents of it onto an external hard drive, not time machine, do that too but what I'm saying is, delete it all from the machine itself, and then run it like the laptop is your monitor and the hard drive is your tower. Go in and dump out all the crap files that hide in the Library and downloads folders. Get rid of any excess user profiles. Also if you just wipe it and upgrade the RAM, only keep law school stuff on the actual computer it will probably speed up immensely.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby misskatejd » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:45 pm

Any idea whether macs or PCs are better at running the programs law schools use for testing? I remember reading about peoples' horror stories of their PC crashing mid-test. I have a couple year old PC, but I will spend $$$ for that not to happen to me! Anyone have any insight???

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby Auxilio » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:40 pm

If I did not have a laptop already I would 100% jump on the just announced Surface 3.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby Gray » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:54 am

Auxilio wrote:If I did not have a laptop already I would 100% jump on the just announced Surface 3.

lol my dad forwarded me that email and was like "it's perfect for law school!"

fingers crossed for a back to school sale in August!

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby RubyRod » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:46 am

misskatejd wrote:Any idea whether macs or PCs are better at running the programs law schools use for testing? I remember reading about peoples' horror stories of their PC crashing mid-test. I have a couple year old PC, but I will spend $$$ for that not to happen to me! Anyone have any insight???


Ask in the "ask a law student" forum.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby FuturePanhandler » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:23 pm

mec896 wrote:
FuturePanhandler wrote:Was hoping to get through LS with my Macbook Pro (early 2011 model), but it's just running so slow. Would like to try to sell it and get something new. Anybody have any experience selling a used Macbook Pro and have any idea what I would be able to get for mine?


I have a macbook pro from 2008 that only really started slowing down this year. I did get a new media card, and a new hard drive right before my warranty ran out though (2010). My advice, keep it unless you can find someone who will give you a good chunk of money for it, which is highly doubtful. Trading in your laptop will get you next to no money and MBPs are really great machines. Take it to a local shop, NOT APPLE, but the awesome computer store with apple specialists. The one in my town call themselves Mac Gurus. My computer just needs a ram upgrade and then a software upgrade. If you're running Maverick, you may just be asking too much of an old ram. The store here will replace it and upgrade all the software for $100.

At any rate the lack of $$ you will get from a trade in, a lot of people have opted to keep the Mac as a second computer. Dump the entire contents of it onto an external hard drive, not time machine, do that too but what I'm saying is, delete it all from the machine itself, and then run it like the laptop is your monitor and the hard drive is your tower. Go in and dump out all the crap files that hide in the Library and downloads folders. Get rid of any excess user profiles. Also if you just wipe it and upgrade the RAM, only keep law school stuff on the actual computer it will probably speed up immensely.


It's just weird because it's been used pretty lightly, and the hard drive only ~2/5ths full. Sometimes when I pull up just a normal word document, it takes 10 minutes just for it to open up because it freezes up and what not. I can't afford to deal with that crap on a law school exam.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby rinkrat19 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:26 pm

misskatejd wrote:Any idea whether macs or PCs are better at running the programs law schools use for testing? I remember reading about peoples' horror stories of their PC crashing mid-test. I have a couple year old PC, but I will spend $$$ for that not to happen to me! Anyone have any insight???

As long as your laptop meets the specs required for the software (which are pretty minimal from what I've seen), they're both fine. If you have a laptop that is prone to crashing, then it might crash. A few schools don't even use testing software (e.g. NU) and you can write your exam in whatever as long as you upload it in Word doc format. (In that case, as long as you have autosave going and it's just a crash and not a catastrophic hardware failure, all you lose is the time it takes to reboot.)
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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby BrazilBandit » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:27 pm

FuturePanhandler wrote:
mec896 wrote:
FuturePanhandler wrote:Was hoping to get through LS with my Macbook Pro (early 2011 model), but it's just running so slow. Would like to try to sell it and get something new. Anybody have any experience selling a used Macbook Pro and have any idea what I would be able to get for mine?


I have a macbook pro from 2008 that only really started slowing down this year. I did get a new media card, and a new hard drive right before my warranty ran out though (2010). My advice, keep it unless you can find someone who will give you a good chunk of money for it, which is highly doubtful. Trading in your laptop will get you next to no money and MBPs are really great machines. Take it to a local shop, NOT APPLE, but the awesome computer store with apple specialists. The one in my town call themselves Mac Gurus. My computer just needs a ram upgrade and then a software upgrade. If you're running Maverick, you may just be asking too much of an old ram. The store here will replace it and upgrade all the software for $100.

At any rate the lack of $$ you will get from a trade in, a lot of people have opted to keep the Mac as a second computer. Dump the entire contents of it onto an external hard drive, not time machine, do that too but what I'm saying is, delete it all from the machine itself, and then run it like the laptop is your monitor and the hard drive is your tower. Go in and dump out all the crap files that hide in the Library and downloads folders. Get rid of any excess user profiles. Also if you just wipe it and upgrade the RAM, only keep law school stuff on the actual computer it will probably speed up immensely.


It's just weird because it's been used pretty lightly, and the hard drive only ~2/5ths full. Sometimes when I pull up just a normal word document, it takes 10 minutes just for it to open up because it freezes up and what not. I can't afford to deal with that crap on a law school exam.


Go ahead and upgrade to a Solid State Drive (SSD) and add more RAM. It will be a new computer for under $300

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby Stevoman » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:51 pm

The type of laptop you use doesn't really matter any more. All the good note-taking software, Microsoft Word, and ExamSoft are all available on both platforms.

My advice that all of you are going to ignore: (1) Use Microsoft OneNote; (2) Set it up to sync with OneDrive so that your notes are backed up and available online.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby commandercup » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:55 pm

Stevoman wrote:The type of laptop you use doesn't really matter any more. All the good note-taking software, Microsoft Word, and ExamSoft are all available on both platforms.

My advice that all of you are going to ignore: (1) Use Microsoft OneNote; (2) Set it up to sync with OneDrive so that your notes are backed up and available online.


+1 OneNote + OneDrive is great. There are even apps for iOS and Android so you can access your notes on the go. Oh and there's even an online version.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby Auxilio » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:51 pm

Also want to emphasize how great onenote is. Plus, not sure how necessary it is in law school, but there is the amazing feature that if you record through onenote as you take notes, it will track the audio time with when you type. So if a couple lines of notes are unclear, you can just relisten to that exact audio.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby RubyRod » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:27 pm

Auxilio wrote:Also want to emphasize how great onenote is. Plus, not sure how necessary it is in law school, but there is the amazing feature that if you record through onenote as you take notes, it will track the audio time with when you type. So if a couple lines of notes are unclear, you can just relisten to that exact audio.


Word for Mac also does this in the note taking setting.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby ub3r » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:33 pm

Is onenote a stylus thing or can I use it with just a keyboard?

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby White Dwarf » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:36 pm

I have an Acer V5 that's a bit over a year old. I'm just going to swap my hard-drive for a new SSD this summer, and hope that gets me through the next 3+ years.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby RubyRod » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:40 pm

ub3r wrote:Is onenote a stylus thing or can I use it with just a keyboard?


Looks like both, also looks to be designed for a touch friendly user experience. Not sure how that translates to a non-touch screen macbook, air or pro. Windows computers all seem to have touch enabled screens these days.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby yot11 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:31 am

stoopkid13 wrote:Anyone else holding out to see what happens with the new Skylake processors? Think its worth waiting until right before school in August (or even September)?


Skylake will bring major improvements as the "tock" in the "tick-tock" process, since it is a complete microarchitecture design (rather than just shrinking the transistor size). If you can hold out for it, then yeah wait because this step traditionally brings much better performance at much lower battery cost.

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Re: What type of laptop are you going to use for law school?

Postby pylon » Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:50 am

Yale: http://www.law.yale.edu/about/incomingStudents.htm

Yale wrote:"The majority of student laptops at YLS are Apple MacBook Airs or MacBook Pros."




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