Columbia Class of 2018

(housing, friendships, future exams, all things 2018)

Why did you choose Columbia?

Location
19
17%
Prestige/ranking
42
37%
Job prospects
28
25%
Professors and academics
7
6%
$$ The big fat Hamilton I got $$
17
15%
 
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GoneSouth
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby GoneSouth » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:00 pm

My flight circled LaGuardia for awhile before diverting to Baltimore. Currently on a train to NYC

Cradle6
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby Cradle6 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:12 am

taks7 wrote:Sorry if this is expressly written somewhere, but does anyone know when merit aid offers will go out to students that did not receive the Hamilton/Butler/etc.?

Wondering this too.

But I got accepted very recently.

macha
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby macha » Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:21 pm

FYI, tried to negotiate aid, got this response:

"our merit scholarship determinations are made concurrently with the offer of admission and cannot be awarded retroactively."

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try.honesty
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby try.honesty » Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:29 pm

macha wrote:FYI, tried to negotiate aid, got this response:

"our merit scholarship determinations are made concurrently with the offer of admission and cannot be awarded retroactively."



:shock: Did you already get your need-based package when you tried to negotiate??

Fred Norris
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby Fred Norris » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:04 pm

When is their next ASW? Thinking about withdrawing my app if I don't hear by around then.

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ChemEng1642
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby ChemEng1642 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:27 pm

macha wrote:FYI, tried to negotiate aid, got this response:

"our merit scholarship determinations are made concurrently with the offer of admission and cannot be awarded retroactively."


Whut?? I thought only named schollies went out with admission?

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tk17
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby tk17 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:28 pm

ChemEng1642 wrote:
macha wrote:FYI, tried to negotiate aid, got this response:

"our merit scholarship determinations are made concurrently with the offer of admission and cannot be awarded retroactively."


Whut?? I thought only named schollies went out with admission?


Columbia considers all money that isn't a named scholarship to be "need aid." I'm hoping their stance on negotiating changes once the "need-aid" packages start heading out.

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ChemEng1642
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby ChemEng1642 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:42 pm

tk17 wrote:
ChemEng1642 wrote:
macha wrote:FYI, tried to negotiate aid, got this response:

"our merit scholarship determinations are made concurrently with the offer of admission and cannot be awarded retroactively."


Whut?? I thought only named schollies went out with admission?


Columbia considers all money that isn't a named scholarship to be "need aid." I'm hoping their stance on negotiating changes once the "need-aid" packages start heading out.


Ahh right right I forgot

Also did you guys know that Columbia does their need-based award for all 3 years up front? So if something in your financial situation changes 2L they're still not going to change your award? Makes more sense if this "need-aid" is just merit aid though...

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tk17
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby tk17 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:44 pm

ChemEng1642 wrote:
tk17 wrote:
ChemEng1642 wrote:
macha wrote:FYI, tried to negotiate aid, got this response:

"our merit scholarship determinations are made concurrently with the offer of admission and cannot be awarded retroactively."


Whut?? I thought only named schollies went out with admission?


Columbia considers all money that isn't a named scholarship to be "need aid." I'm hoping their stance on negotiating changes once the "need-aid" packages start heading out.


Ahh right right I forgot

Also did you guys know that Columbia does their need-based award for all 3 years up front? So if something in your financial situation changes 2L they're still not going to change your award? Makes more sense if this "need-aid" is just merit aid though...


Which kinda stinks because I'm going to have a lot more "need" after I haven't been working prior year.

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maroon175
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby maroon175 » Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:06 pm

tk17 wrote:
Which kinda stinks because I'm going to have a lot more "need" after I haven't been working prior year.


+1

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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

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lnick93
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby lnick93 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:46 am

Hey everyone,

PSA: When I was at the ASP last week I was able to talk to someone from the financial aid staff who told me packages would not start going out until the end of March. If you have a scholarship deadline for another school (like an April 1st deadline) they said to email them and let them know so they could try to get your package to you before your deadline.

ase0624
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby ase0624 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:47 am

lnick93 wrote:Hey everyone,

PSA: When I was at the ASP last week I was able to talk to someone from the financial aid staff who told me packages would not start going out until the end of March. If you have a scholarship deadline for another school (like an April 1st deadline) they said to email them and let them know so they could try to get your package to you before your deadline.


That said, the director also recommended trying to get deadline extensions at other schools because most applicants are in this boat.

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Skool
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby Skool » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:42 pm

My favorite part of admitted students weekend was when that girl asked Robert Scott something to the effect of, how much of the pro bono stuff is students trying to do good work for people who need help or resume padding for firm hiring.

Made me REAL excited to spend three years with her, potentially.

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ChemEng1642
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby ChemEng1642 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:34 pm

Skool wrote:My favorite part of admitted students weekend was when that girl asked Robert Scott something to the effect of, how much of the pro bono stuff is students trying to do good work for people who need help or resume padding for firm hiring.

Made me REAL excited to spend three years with her, potentially.


+1

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LetsGoMets
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby LetsGoMets » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:34 pm

ChemEng1642 wrote:
Skool wrote:My favorite part of admitted students weekend was when that girl asked Robert Scott something to the effect of, how much of the pro bono stuff is students trying to do good work for people who need help or resume padding for firm hiring.

Made me REAL excited to spend three years with her, potentially.


+1


Lol

There were a lot of interesting questions

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90convoy
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby 90convoy » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:44 pm

happily checking in!

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drtygrty
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby drtygrty » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:02 am

Checking in! Was accepted last month and have decided to come out of the lurker shadows.

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Eladriel
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby Eladriel » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:58 am

lnick93 wrote:Hey everyone,

PSA: When I was at the ASP last week I was able to talk to someone from the financial aid staff who told me packages would not start going out until the end of March. If you have a scholarship deadline for another school (like an April 1st deadline) they said to email them and let them know so they could try to get your package to you before your deadline.


So I guess the TLS consensus is that if we didn't get a named scholarship with our acceptance AND if we have submitted the various components (FAFSA, Needaccess, Taxes, W2s) then we're just waiting on CLS until end of March/beginning of April?

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Eladriel
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby Eladriel » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:31 pm

Eladriel wrote:
lnick93 wrote:Hey everyone,

PSA: When I was at the ASP last week I was able to talk to someone from the financial aid staff who told me packages would not start going out until the end of March. If you have a scholarship deadline for another school (like an April 1st deadline) they said to email them and let them know so they could try to get your package to you before your deadline.


So I guess the TLS consensus is that if we didn't get a named scholarship with our acceptance AND if we have submitted the various components (FAFSA, Needaccess, Taxes, W2s) then we're just waiting on CLS until end of March/beginning of April?


I just called the CLS financial aid office and they told me that this is the case. They said if I have pressing scholarship deadlines I should (1) submit that paperwork for them to review (they also said they don't match but they would review the other offers) and (2) ask the other schools to extend their deadlines.

bklynlady
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby bklynlady » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:50 am

Hi everyone!
Anybody ever try to leverage an acceptance at HLS for financial aid at CLS?

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ChemEng1642
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby ChemEng1642 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:10 am

bklynlady wrote:Hi everyone!
Anybody ever try to leverage an acceptance at HLS for financial aid at CLS?


Yes I'm pretty sure people have - still not sure how to do it without sounding like an ass though

bklynlady
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby bklynlady » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:50 am

Yeah, therein lies the problem. Anyone know if they have ever rescinded an offer b/c someone sounded like an ass? Also, what happens to the Hamiltons when the recipients jump ship for HYS later on in the cycle? Do they go back and give them to people they already accepted or do they give them to waitlisted applicants?

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tk17
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby tk17 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:55 am

bklynlady wrote:Yeah, therein lies the problem. Anyone know if they have ever rescinded an offer b/c someone sounded like an ass?


I mean, it's not like this is a surprise to them. They know they are battling with Harvard for students, and they know that if they want to take those students away from Harvard they'll have to do it with money.

Just don't be too much of an ass. Don't say "Well, Harvard is obviously a better school, but I suppose I'd stoop down to Columbia if you pay me enough." Say something like "I'm currently leaning toward Harvard, but I am still very much interested in Columbia. And blah blah blah...."

And don't try to negotiate before you have your original Columibia offer.

They're not going to rescind your offer.

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Skool
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Re: Columbia Class of 2018

Postby Skool » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:58 am

Be polite, maybe a little apologetic, and keep it real. At the end of the day, Columbia stays in the top five year after year because they know how to play the game. This is a part of it.

Stress how impressed you were on visits/conversations. Stress how difficult a decision this is. But you've been presented with this opportunity and it would be difficult for you to pass up without more financial support from Columbia due to cost of living/specific programming/opportunity differences at HYS.

Edit: I think you want to know your worth while having some humility. More flies with honey, etc.




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