UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

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Which ASW events are you attending?

BJSA Welcome Event
0
No votes
FGP Welcome Dinner
11
34%
WOCC Dinner
5
16%
BHWA Happy Hour
3
9%
BJIL BBQ
2
6%
BTLJ Happy Hour
0
No votes
BJELL Happy Hour
0
No votes
AAPI Dinner
4
13%
MELSA Dinner
1
3%
La Raza Welcome
6
19%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby morningstar » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:52 pm

trynalaw123 wrote:Alright Berk, we know today is the day the first round of scholarships expire and we're all good and ready to have them redistributed!


Any chance they'd be willing to honor a "dibs" sort of arrangement on other TLSers that got $ but put their deposits elsewhere? 8)

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby DiniMae » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:54 am

trynalaw123 wrote:Alright Berk, we know today is the day the first round of scholarships expire and we're all good and ready to have them redistributed!

Actually, they sent an email saying it's extended to 4/15.

However, I declined mine already so hopefully that goes to someone else deserving it.

If someone wants to take over as OP, please PM me.

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby trynalaw123 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:31 am

DiniMae wrote:
trynalaw123 wrote:Alright Berk, we know today is the day the first round of scholarships expire and we're all good and ready to have them redistributed!

Actually, they sent an email saying it's extended to 4/15.

However, I declined mine already so hopefully that goes to someone else deserving it.

If someone wants to take over as OP, please PM me.


Wow, that's nice that those conflicted by other offers have more time, but frustrating if it continues to push back the timeline for the rest of us.
Best of luck at wherever you chose DiniMae!

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby DiniMae » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:42 pm

trynalaw123 wrote:
DiniMae wrote:
trynalaw123 wrote:Alright Berk, we know today is the day the first round of scholarships expire and we're all good and ready to have them redistributed!

Actually, they sent an email saying it's extended to 4/15.

However, I declined mine already so hopefully that goes to someone else deserving it.

If someone wants to take over as OP, please PM me.


Wow, that's nice that those conflicted by other offers have more time, but frustrating if it continues to push back the timeline for the rest of us.
Best of luck at wherever you chose DiniMae!

Thank you. That was my hardest decision.

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby hopeboaltberkeley » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:00 pm

If a school on the matching list has given us just a few days to accept a scholarship offer do you think that it's worth emailing the merit office to ask for an expedited decision?

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby strugglebus » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:46 am

hopeboaltberkeley wrote:If a school on the matching list has given us just a few days to accept a scholarship offer do you think that it's worth emailing the merit office to ask for an expedited decision?

Yes, they explicitly told people to do this at AS. Good luck!

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby Blue0613 » Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:26 pm

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:34 pm

At equal cost I would go Cornell, Berkeley obviously has a lot of people who self select out, but Cornell has a proven track record of sending 70+% to NY biglaw. I also would not say there is a little extra academic gravitas, they are peers.

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby Comma.Split » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:17 pm

Blue0613 wrote:Does anyone have any insight on how Berkeley grads do in NYC big law recruitment? I am just weighing my options and trying to determine if going out to California from the east coast makes sense just to return to NYC when I am also admitted at Cornell.

Is that little extra academic gravitas really worth the 2000 miles?

Also, how do employers actually view the grading system. Obviously kids are getting jobs, etc., but I'm curious if it hurts kids in the middle of the class who get lumped together.

Thanks!


If your only goal is to get a NYC BigLaw, then Cornell. Most generally, Berkeley and Cornell place equally well into NLJ 250 (the rate is 45%, but given Berkeley's strong public interest focus, aka self-selection, Berkeley's "real" BigLaw placement is probably stronger). However Cornell is very NY heavy (57% of grads end up in NY) compared to Berkeley's 11%. So, all else equal, Cornell will give you a better shot in NYC.

P.S. My girlfriend (econ and math quantitative analyst) and I spent three days analyzing the crap out of the existing data. Let me know if you have any questions.

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby Bird Lawyer » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:17 pm

Are we thinking that if you haven't received money yet, you're SOL? Are there still a lot of people with nothing?

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:19 pm

Comma.Split wrote:
Blue0613 wrote:Does anyone have any insight on how Berkeley grads do in NYC big law recruitment? I am just weighing my options and trying to determine if going out to California from the east coast makes sense just to return to NYC when I am also admitted at Cornell.

Is that little extra academic gravitas really worth the 2000 miles?

Also, how do employers actually view the grading system. Obviously kids are getting jobs, etc., but I'm curious if it hurts kids in the middle of the class who get lumped together.

Thanks!


If your only goal is to get a NYC BigLaw, then Cornell. Most generally, Berkeley and Cornell place equally well into NLJ 250 (the rate is 45%, but given Berkeley's strong public interest focus, aka self-selection, Berkeley's "real" BigLaw placement is probably stronger). However Cornell is very NY heavy (57% of grads end up in NY) compared to Berkeley's 11%. So, all else equal, Cornell will give you a better shot in NYC.

P.S. My girlfriend (econ and math quantitative analyst) and I spent three days analyzing the crap out of the existing data. Let me know if you have any questions.



Can u make a post about that data?

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby strugglebus » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:27 pm

Bird Lawyer wrote:Are we thinking that if you haven't received money yet, you're SOL? Are there still a lot of people with nothing?

There'll probably be more offers after the 4/15 deadline to accept/decline the first round

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby arose928 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:33 pm

Bird Lawyer wrote:Are we thinking that if you haven't received money yet, you're SOL? Are there still a lot of people with nothing?


I've got nothing still (although I'm not expecting anything). I don't think you're SOL yet, but getting close. At ASW and after talking with financial aid, my understanding is that pretty much all scholarship money is given out by the end of April. If you don't have anything by the end of the month... then it's pretty safe to assume you're SOL.

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby Fareslols » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:28 pm

Good time to be headed to Berkeley!

2014 jobs numbers released today:

https://www.law.berkeley.edu/files/Empl ... 4grads.pdf

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby Comma.Split » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:50 pm

Fareslols wrote:Good time to be headed to Berkeley!

2014 jobs numbers released today:

https://www.law.berkeley.edu/files/Empl ... 4grads.pdf



WOW, I am impressed!! Their clerkship numbers are through the roof! From 30 (9%) in 2013 to 47 (16%) in 2014!! Harvard is at 17%. That's nuts.

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby Comma.Split » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:51 pm

Mack.Hambleton wrote:
Comma.Split wrote:
Blue0613 wrote:Does anyone have any insight on how Berkeley grads do in NYC big law recruitment? I am just weighing my options and trying to determine if going out to California from the east coast makes sense just to return to NYC when I am also admitted at Cornell.

Is that little extra academic gravitas really worth the 2000 miles?

Also, how do employers actually view the grading system. Obviously kids are getting jobs, etc., but I'm curious if it hurts kids in the middle of the class who get lumped together.

Thanks!


If your only goal is to get a NYC BigLaw, then Cornell. Most generally, Berkeley and Cornell place equally well into NLJ 250 (the rate is 45%, but given Berkeley's strong public interest focus, aka self-selection, Berkeley's "real" BigLaw placement is probably stronger). However Cornell is very NY heavy (57% of grads end up in NY) compared to Berkeley's 11%. So, all else equal, Cornell will give you a better shot in NYC.

P.S. My girlfriend (econ and math quantitative analyst) and I spent three days analyzing the crap out of the existing data. Let me know if you have any questions.



Can u make a post about that data?



I will be posting bits and pieces of interesting data. Let me know if you guys want anything specific.

1. I have exact data on the number of firms that participated in OCI at Berkeley last year:
37 Firms from L.A.
42 firms from San Francisco
37 Palo Alto
32 New York
28 Washington D.C.
24 Texas
13 San Diego
13 Foreign
10 Chicago
10 Boston

Of these 246, 225 were large firms that are considered BigLaw. The rest are medium sized firms (small firms recruit at another time).

85% of the 2Ls participated in OCI, and of those, 60% received at least one offer. In other words, 70% of all the participants got at least one BigLaw offer.

On average, people received 2 offers.

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby trynalaw123 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:43 am

Bird Lawyer wrote:Are we thinking that if you haven't received money yet, you're SOL? Are there still a lot of people with nothing?


I really want to believe they're just lagging on offers. I haven't heard back on either my matching app or regular scholly yet, but I'm thinking that worst case scenario they have to at least give me a "no" on the matching at some point soon because my other school's deadline is coming up. It seems like they haven't given many offers yet, but maybe I'm just being optimistic. Still slowly imploding from the stress...
and WOW those clerkship numbers just make me want to go that much more

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby sheishkabob » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:40 pm

trynalaw123 wrote:
Bird Lawyer wrote:Are we thinking that if you haven't received money yet, you're SOL? Are there still a lot of people with nothing?


I really want to believe they're just lagging on offers. I haven't heard back on either my matching app or regular scholly yet, but I'm thinking that worst case scenario they have to at least give me a "no" on the matching at some point soon because my other school's deadline is coming up. It seems like they haven't given many offers yet, but maybe I'm just being optimistic. Still slowly imploding from the stress...
and WOW those clerkship numbers just make me want to go that much more


I haven't gotten response on my matching either despite submitting almost a month and a half ago now. Complete silence on a regular scholly as well, I'm really realllllyyy hoping we're not screwed yet. They at least give us an answer on the matching right, whether it be yes or no?

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby trynalaw123 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:46 pm

sheishkabob wrote:
trynalaw123 wrote:
Bird Lawyer wrote:Are we thinking that if you haven't received money yet, you're SOL? Are there still a lot of people with nothing?


I really want to believe they're just lagging on offers. I haven't heard back on either my matching app or regular scholly yet, but I'm thinking that worst case scenario they have to at least give me a "no" on the matching at some point soon because my other school's deadline is coming up. It seems like they haven't given many offers yet, but maybe I'm just being optimistic. Still slowly imploding from the stress...
and WOW those clerkship numbers just make me want to go that much more


I haven't gotten response on my matching either despite submitting almost a month and a half ago now. Complete silence on a regular scholly as well, I'm really realllllyyy hoping we're not screwed yet. They at least give us an answer on the matching right, whether it be yes or no?


I actually just looked at last year's thread and it looks like some people were "held" on their matching decisions until May 8, and regular scholarships were all given out by the end of April :(

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby sheishkabob » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:57 pm

trynalaw123 wrote:
sheishkabob wrote:
trynalaw123 wrote:
Bird Lawyer wrote:Are we thinking that if you haven't received money yet, you're SOL? Are there still a lot of people with nothing?


I really want to believe they're just lagging on offers. I haven't heard back on either my matching app or regular scholly yet, but I'm thinking that worst case scenario they have to at least give me a "no" on the matching at some point soon because my other school's deadline is coming up. It seems like they haven't given many offers yet, but maybe I'm just being optimistic. Still slowly imploding from the stress...
and WOW those clerkship numbers just make me want to go that much more


I haven't gotten response on my matching either despite submitting almost a month and a half ago now. Complete silence on a regular scholly as well, I'm really realllllyyy hoping we're not screwed yet. They at least give us an answer on the matching right, whether it be yes or no?


I actually just looked at last year's thread and it looks like some people were "held" on their matching decisions until May 8, and regular scholarships were all given out by the end of April :(


Ugh NOOOO. Do you think having deadlines ~10 days away is too far away to ask for an expedited decision from Berk?

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby fra » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:59 pm

sheishkabob wrote:Ugh NOOOO. Do you think having deadlines ~10 days away is too far away to ask for an expedited decision from Berk?


On the matching scholarship FAQ it says to contact them if your deadline is less than a week from your submit date.

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby BlueLaw11 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:02 pm

sheishkabob wrote:
trynalaw123 wrote:
Bird Lawyer wrote:Are we thinking that if you haven't received money yet, you're SOL? Are there still a lot of people with nothing?


I really want to believe they're just lagging on offers. I haven't heard back on either my matching app or regular scholly yet, but I'm thinking that worst case scenario they have to at least give me a "no" on the matching at some point soon because my other school's deadline is coming up. It seems like they haven't given many offers yet, but maybe I'm just being optimistic. Still slowly imploding from the stress...
and WOW those clerkship numbers just make me want to go that much more


I haven't gotten response on my matching either despite submitting almost a month and a half ago now. Complete silence on a regular scholly as well, I'm really realllllyyy hoping we're not screwed yet. They at least give us an answer on the matching right, whether it be yes or no?


In the same boat, coming up on 2 months since I put mine in. I believe they have to give us an answer though so hopefully we will hear soon

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby trynalaw123 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:08 pm

BlueLaw11 wrote:
sheishkabob wrote:
trynalaw123 wrote:
Bird Lawyer wrote:Are we thinking that if you haven't received money yet, you're SOL? Are there still a lot of people with nothing?


I really want to believe they're just lagging on offers. I haven't heard back on either my matching app or regular scholly yet, but I'm thinking that worst case scenario they have to at least give me a "no" on the matching at some point soon because my other school's deadline is coming up. It seems like they haven't given many offers yet, but maybe I'm just being optimistic. Still slowly imploding from the stress...
and WOW those clerkship numbers just make me want to go that much more


I haven't gotten response on my matching either despite submitting almost a month and a half ago now. Complete silence on a regular scholly as well, I'm really realllllyyy hoping we're not screwed yet. They at least give us an answer on the matching right, whether it be yes or no?


In the same boat, coming up on 2 months since I put mine in. I believe they have to give us an answer though so hopefully we will hear soon


Yeah I think so too, it just scares me that last year lots of people got "held" decisions on April 23 that caused them to wait until May, because the deadline for my other scholarship is the 25th.

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Re: UC Berkeley (Boalt Hall) Law Class of 2018

Postby arose928 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:06 pm

For those who got scholarship decisions, what's the email address it came from? I emailed admissions@law.berkeley and they said they forwarded my inquiry to the scholarship committee so I'm trying to figure out who to follow up with




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