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CFC1524
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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby CFC1524 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:31 pm

MikeSpivey wrote:
madz wrote:Count me in! Sounds awesome


+12. We set (unless someone can't make the draft date). Speaking of, it would be most awesome if we could do it Sunday evening, August 24th. We will take all of this up in the league board, though, as Karen may sue me if I keep talking about FF here.


Setup the league and sent out invitations. If you're planning on joining, PM me your email address so I can send you an invitation. Thanks!

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby simplytea » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:10 am

Wahh -1 :(

I just looked up how to play and my mind was completely blown. Someone want to take my spot?

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MikeSpivey
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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby MikeSpivey » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:30 am

simplytea wrote:Wahh -1 :(

I just looked up how to play and my mind was completely blown. Someone want to take my spot?



How to play FF is an upcoming LSAT question, fyi.

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haus
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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby haus » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:34 am

MikeSpivey wrote:
simplytea wrote:Wahh -1 :(

I just looked up how to play and my mind was completely blown. Someone want to take my spot?



How to play FF is an upcoming LSAT question, fyi.

This would have made for a considerable bump to my LSAT score...

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby simplytea » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:40 am

MikeSpivey wrote:
simplytea wrote:Wahh -1 :(

I just looked up how to play and my mind was completely blown. Someone want to take my spot?



How to play FF is an upcoming LSAT question, fyi.


New Stats:

3.5, 120 :(

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby MikeSpivey » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:53 am

haus wrote:
MikeSpivey wrote:
simplytea wrote:Wahh -1 :(

I just looked up how to play and my mind was completely blown. Someone want to take my spot?



How to play FF is an upcoming LSAT question, fyi.

This would have made for a considerable bump to my LSAT score...



Retake

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby LeNut » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:04 am

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby simplytea » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:20 am

MikeSpivey wrote:
haus wrote:
MikeSpivey wrote:
simplytea wrote:Wahh -1 :(

I just looked up how to play and my mind was completely blown. Someone want to take my spot?



How to play FF is an upcoming LSAT question, fyi.

This would have made for a considerable bump to my LSAT score...



Retake


LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: dying

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby haus » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:34 am

MikeSpivey wrote:
haus wrote:
MikeSpivey wrote:
simplytea wrote:Wahh -1 :(

I just looked up how to play and my mind was completely blown. Someone want to take my spot?


How to play FF is an upcoming LSAT question, fyi.

This would have made for a considerable bump to my LSAT score...


Retake

:)

Do you think that 3-5 more points could get into a better online/hybrid school?

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby Winston1984 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:37 am

MikeSpivey wrote:
haus wrote:
MikeSpivey wrote:
simplytea wrote:Wahh -1 :(

I just looked up how to play and my mind was completely blown. Someone want to take my spot?



How to play FF is an upcoming LSAT question, fyi.

This would have made for a considerable bump to my LSAT score...



Retake


:lol:

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MikeSpivey
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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby MikeSpivey » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:36 am

LeNut wrote:Hi Mike and Karen,

I applied in Nov and was WL'd at 3 T14s last cycle. I'm a super splitter reapplying this cycle now with 1 year of WE and a new PS. Do you think that having my apps in Sept this year + ED (UVA, Mich) is enough of a bump to get me into one of these schools?

Thanks!

'

There is a lot we don't know, so hard to say for sure. Certainly you will get a bump for applying ED, and last year I saw this work very well for some people at UVA, Penn, etc.

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby MikeSpivey » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:47 pm

We still have 4 open spots in our FF league, FYI. So if you haven't PM'd our commish with your email, or logged in with a team, please do so.

The draft is August 24th at 8pm est, FYI.

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby jerseymike » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:23 pm

Hi Spivey Consulting,

I'm about to reapply after applying to many schools in the previous cycle. How would admissions officers view it if I recycle my personal statement topic? I believe the topic is still my best idea yet I don't want adcoms to think I am lazy or that there is nothing else interesting about me.

Second question, if it's not too much: what about reusing the same letters?

Thanks for your help.

Edit: I'm particularly interested in how this will affect my scholarship chances at top schools. I have the stats for it and I don't want to screw up my chances by blowing the personal statement.

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby LeNut » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:57 pm

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby MikeSpivey » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:37 pm

CFC1524 wrote:
MikeSpivey wrote:
madz wrote:Count me in! Sounds awesome


+12. We set (unless someone can't make the draft date). Speaking of, it would be most awesome if we could do it Sunday evening, August 24th. We will take all of this up in the league board, though, as Karen may sue me if I keep talking about FF here.


Setup the league and sent out invitations. If you're planning on joining, PM me your email address so I can send you an invitation. Thanks!


We need 4 more, so please PM ^^^^ that guy if you want in. You do not have to have rsvp'd before, as we seem to be missing 4 of those people. Join up. Big bucks, no whammies!

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby foles » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:58 pm

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby KarenButtenbaum » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:52 pm

LeNut wrote:
jerseymike wrote:Hi Spivey Consulting,

I'm about to reapply after applying to many schools in the previous cycle. How would admissions officers view it if I recycle my personal statement topic? I believe the topic is still my best idea yet I don't want adcoms to think I am lazy or that there is nothing else interesting about me.

Second question, if it's not too much: what about reusing the same letters?

Thanks for your help.

Edit: I'm particularly interested in how this will affect my scholarship chances at top schools. I have the stats for it and I don't want to screw up my chances by blowing the personal statement.


To add to jerseymike's question, what are your thoughts on recycling parts of your PS?

Thanks.


This is school specific, but I'd say most schools prefer or require a new personal statement. You may want to rework it if you are set on staying with the same general theme.
letters of rec are fine to stay the same.
Cheers,
KB

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby KarenButtenbaum » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:00 pm

foles wrote:I guess this is a little more directed towards Karen but any insight would be helpful! How much of a detriment is being a K-JD applicant at Harvard given their increasing focus on WE? (I think ~75% of the class is now out of undergrad?). Should we expect to substantially underperform our numbers as a group? Thanks!


It's difficult to quantify how much of a detriment it will be, but you are right that a large majority of the incoming class are not coming directly from undergrad. I wouldn't say that the group substantially underperforms their numbers necessarily, but having some work experience prior to law school is generally a good thing - and not just for HLS.
But there are still a good group of people who are admitted to HLS every year coming straight from undergrad. It's a big school, so 25% of the class is still 140 people.
Hope that helps!
Cheers,
KB

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby foles » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:15 pm

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby MikeSpivey » Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:52 am

For those starting law school here is a blog about just that:

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/about- ... back-down/

Since I highly doubt many people starting are on the "admissions Q&A thread" please feel free to share if you think it will help anyone. Thanks!

PS, obligatory "we need 4 more for FF" comment.

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby rebexness » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:15 pm

Mike etc:

If a school asks for HS info (GPA/Rank) on their app, but its not listed as required (e.g: Duke) is there any benefit to doing/not doing so?

THANK YOU!

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby MikeSpivey » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:51 pm

rebexness wrote:Mike etc:

If a school asks for HS info (GPA/Rank) on their app, but its not listed as required (e.g: Duke) is there any benefit to doing/not doing so?

THANK YOU!


Yep, that's for internal reports they run. It has zero impact on admissions but it is a professional courtesy so I would encourage you to put it.

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby Sweeny12 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:10 pm

Hi Mike and Karen,

This thread is really big so sorry if this has been addressed.

I'm curious how a 4th LSAT retake looks. I took it 3 times about 2 years ago during undergrad without doing enough substantial prep like I should have done (stupid :oops: ).

Scored between the 50-60th percentile.

I have been studying and PTing over the last 20 tests with an average of 169. I'm worried that the three bad scores will hurt me even if I get a really good score in September (assuming I score around what my average has been).

What would you suggest I do when application time comes?

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby MikeSpivey » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:44 pm

FF update: we got our 9th, need 3 more!

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby KarenButtenbaum » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:28 pm

Sweeny12 wrote:Hi Mike and Karen,

This thread is really big so sorry if this has been addressed.

I'm curious how a 4th LSAT retake looks. I took it 3 times about 2 years ago during undergrad without doing enough substantial prep like I should have done (stupid :oops: ).

Scored between the 50-60th percentile.

I have been studying and PTing over the last 20 tests with an average of 169. I'm worried that the three bad scores will hurt me even if I get a really good score in September (assuming I score around what my average has been).

What would you suggest I do when application time comes?


The time gap helps, and at the end of the day, the high score is what they'll report. You can add a very brief addendum, if that's what you are asking... but they might assume that anyway :)
good luck and go for it!
Cheers,
KB


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