KarenButtenbaum wrote: MikeSpivey wrote:
MikeSpivey wrote:Okay, let's play this game. If I were a law school admissions office, I would...?
...I would ask for budget increases so that we could sent out totally awesome "swag" packages to accepted students. Some schools really drop the ball on this, I would want my acceptance packages to be legendary on TLS. (I'm only half kidding about this).
Now you really get to play admissions dean. You have limited resources. Would you cannibalize a $120,000 scholarship and do this? That 120k would get someone above both your medians...
Would you rather that than giving a travel stipend for people to visit your school?
etc etc. Those are examples (I actually think fun examples) of the strategic decision making we all faced in admissions.
Mike knows this already, but I love swag. I want to get Spivey Consulting fleeces
In reality, the return on swag isn't all that much. When schools survey students on why they chose a school, the material things don't come up too often, but I do agree that they contribute to an overall positive feeling toward the school.
Swag doesn't sway me, but I have to say, some other efforts that schools make can be differentiating factor.
For instance, the things NYU has been doing so far have been great. We have been talking about it in the NYU c/o 2017 thread, but we all have received emails from the Dean, with an offer to reach out to him w/ any questions. For those that did, he put us in touch w/ professors in our area of interest, who also were very helpful. They also had alumni in our area reach out to us and offer to meet for coffee or lunch, and they had current students from our area reach out and offer to answer any questions we may have that we didn't feel comfortable asking the administration.
Even their quick turnaround speed gives you a good feeling for the efficiency of the office, and acts as another intangible.
They also had a pretty nice swag package
. But in general, when schools make an effort like this, it does have an effect. If I were choosing between NYU and Columbia at equal money, and Columbia didn't reach out in the same way, I would be inclined to go with NYU. So it can have some effect. I'm not sure how much it's "worth" so to speak. If NYU was $10,000 more expense, would I go with NYU still? Maybe.
But Spivey fleece would be cool. Yours would have to be monogrammed "KB" of course.