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pancho
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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby pancho » Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:06 pm

Hi Karen (Is Mike still with us?),

Do you know of any law schools within the T14 that retain applications longer than two cycles? I am going to be reapplying and would like to know if they will have access to my previous application. I will be applying for the c/o 2016 2017 to the schools in question. I previously applied for the c/o 2013.

Thank you!

[Edited to fix the c/o year]
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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby leroyjenkins6969 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:40 pm

Hi Karen and Mike,

Today I realized that I had taken college courses in high school and had not submitted my transcript for those courses to LSAC. I looked at the unofficial transcript for those college courses taken in high school, and it seems as if they would bump my LSDAS GPA up from a 3.64 to a 3.65.

It would take at least a week for LSAC to receive and process the transcript, however.

Is it worth it to submit my apps on say 11/21 instead of 11/14 for that extra .01?

How much will submitting on 11/21 instead of 11/14 affect my chances?

Also, how can I get more information about Spivey Consulting's services and price structure. I tried calling today but got no response.

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby KarenButtenbaum » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:04 pm

pancho wrote:Hi Karen (Is Mike still with us?),

Do you know of any law schools within the T14 that retain applications longer than two cycles? I am going to be reapplying and would like to know if they will have access to my previous application. I will be applying for the c/o 2016 to the schools in question. I previously applied for the c/o 2013.

Thank you!


Hi pancho-
Mike is on the mend and will be back in the swing of things in a few days. :)
Yes, I know that HLS and SLS will keep apps for three years. Not sure about others...
Cheers,
karen

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby KarenButtenbaum » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:09 pm

leroyjenkins6969 wrote:Hi Karen and Mike,

Today I realized that I had taken college courses in high school and had not submitted my transcript for those courses to LSAC. I looked at the unofficial transcript for those college courses taken in high school, and it seems as if they would bump my LSDAS GPA up from a 3.64 to a 3.65.

It would take at least a week for LSAC to receive and process the transcript, however.

Is it worth it to submit my apps on say 11/21 instead of 11/14 for that extra .01?

How much will submitting on 11/21 instead of 11/14 affect my chances?

Also, how can I get more information about Spivey Consulting's services and price structure. I tried calling today but got no response.


The schools will automatically get an update for your new GPA/transcripts so it won't really matter when you submit. Applying within that time frame is still on the early side, so there is zero difference in applying 11/21 or 11/14

Sorry about that with the phone; shoot me an email at karen@spiveyconsulting.com and we can chat.

Cheers,
Karen

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby nothingtosee » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:12 am

Hi Mike and Karen,
Quick question on personal statements. I'm applying to ten T14 schools; what do you think about including a different small section for each school saying I want to take advantage of this program at Chicago/these are the profs or clinics I am interested in at Penn, etc?
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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby Nova » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:15 am

I'm nobody but a megaposter but that sounds legit to me

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby KarenButtenbaum » Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:15 pm

nothingtosee wrote:Hi Mike and Karen,
Quick question on personal statements. I'm applying to ten T14 schools; what do you think about including a different small section for each school saying I want to take advantage of this program at Chicago/these are the profs or clinics I am interested in at Penn, etc?


In general, I'd stay away from being specific about a school in a PS -- save it for a "why X" statement if appropriate. There's too much room for error and it takes up valuable space in your PS while generally not adding value (as it might in a why x statement).
You'd be amazed how many statements I read that declared their love for Yale... or Stanford ...or Chicago ...or some other school while working at HLS.

Cheers,
Karen

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby bouleversement » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:47 pm

bouleversement wrote:I think Spivey & Co. had too much candy. :P


KarenButtenbaum wrote:Mike is on the mend and will be back in the swing of things in a few days. :)

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby pancho » Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:43 pm

KarenButtenbaum wrote:
pancho wrote:Hi Karen (Is Mike still with us?),

Do you know of any law schools within the T14 that retain applications longer than two cycles? I am going to be reapplying and would like to know if they will have access to my previous application. I will be applying for the c/o 2016 2017 to the schools in question. I previously applied for the c/o 2013.

Thank you!


Hi pancho-
Mike is on the mend and will be back in the swing of things in a few days. :)
Yes, I know that HLS and SLS will keep apps for three years. Not sure about others...
Cheers,
karen


Thanks Karen. I see I had the c/o year wrong in my first post! Too many cycles! :P

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby angels2fly » Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:31 pm

Planning and studying for the December LSAT. Have a 3.95 now and got a 165 in October. I know a better score is almost always better than an earlier application but I am getting really nervous about schools like Boalt that discuss the benefits of an earlier app almost everywhere. Would it be stupid to throw an app their way now? I don't want to be in a situation where they would accept me now, but won't in January.

Thanks for the insight

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby EEguy5 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:19 pm

Hey Karen,

Maybe a dumb question, should I be italicizing things like a title of a Journal or Magazine in my essays. This just occurring to me, I already have a few apps submitted, hoping its a personal preference kind of thing.

Thank you!

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby KarenButtenbaum » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:04 pm

angels2fly wrote:Planning and studying for the December LSAT. Have a 3.95 now and got a 165 in October. I know a better score is almost always better than an earlier application but I am getting really nervous about schools like Boalt that discuss the benefits of an earlier app almost everywhere. Would it be stupid to throw an app their way now? I don't want to be in a situation where they would accept me now, but won't in January.

Thanks for the insight


I think you'll be fine to wait -- but you can always submit and let them know you are retaking. You can also submit your app right before the scores come out so you are still on the early side, and they are very likely to get the score by the time they read your app.

Cheers,
karen

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby KarenButtenbaum » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:05 pm

EEguy5 wrote:Hey Karen,

Maybe a dumb question, should I be italicizing things like a title of a Journal or Magazine in my essays. This just occurring to me, I already have a few apps submitted, hoping its a personal preference kind of thing.

Thank you!


Titles of books, magazines, and journals should be italicized. :)

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby MikeSpivey » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:29 am

KarenButtenbaum wrote:
Hi pancho-
Mike is on the mend and will be back in the swing of things in a few days. :)
Yes, I know that HLS and SLS will keep apps for three years. Not sure about others...
Cheers,
karen


Hey Pancho et all.

Sorry about my absence. I had to deal with a significant dizzy attacks that the medical experts couldn't really figure how to treat other than trying to make me stable by giving me that same drug they gave Michael Jackson (I don't think I am kidding here). But I made it through, they (or likely mother nature) fixed me and I am back at the Neverneverland Ranch of Spivey Consulting. Well likely 89% better and 100% by tomorrow.

So I will need to spend a good while with my clients but should be back here before too long to give some AWESOME advice :)

Thanks for understanding! Apologies again!

Mike

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby MikeSpivey » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:53 pm

Here is a new blog article on The Future of Legal Services:

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/the-future-of-law/

Also, should I be using a word different than blog? The kid on White House Down (highly realistic movie) kepy saying that "blog" was old. Please help, I am old!

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby Happy Gilmore » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:05 pm

MikeSpivey wrote:Here is a new blog article on The Future of Legal Services:

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/the-future-of-law/

Also, should I be using a word different than blog? The kid on White House Down (highly realistic movie) kepy saying that "blog" was old. Please help, I am old!


That's not what we want to hear. really.

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:30 pm

MikeSpivey wrote:Here is a new blog article on The Future of Legal Services:

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/the-future-of-law/

Also, should I be using a word different than blog? The kid on White House Down (highly realistic movie) kepy saying that "blog" was old. Please help, I am old!

I think the idea is that blogging is out-dated and obsolete now because it's (slightly more) long-form social media, and twitter/tumblr/"micro-blogging" is The Thing now. I don't know what you'd call it besides a blog, though.

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby ZVBXRPL » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:35 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
MikeSpivey wrote:Here is a new blog article on The Future of Legal Services:

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/the-future-of-law/

Also, should I be using a word different than blog? The kid on White House Down (highly realistic movie) kepy saying that "blog" was old. Please help, I am old!

I think the idea is that blogging is out-dated and obsolete now because it's (slightly more) long-form social media, and twitter/tumblr/"micro-blogging" is The Thing now. I don't know what you'd call it besides a blog, though.


Togging/Mogging.

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby MikeSpivey » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:43 pm

ZVBXRPL wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
MikeSpivey wrote:Here is a new blog article on The Future of Legal Services:

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/the-future-of-law/

Also, should I be using a word different than blog? The kid on White House Down (highly realistic movie) kept saying that "blog" was old. Please help, I am old!

I think the idea is that blogging is out-dated and obsolete now because it's (slightly more) long-form social media, and twitter/tumblr/"micro-blogging" is The Thing now. I don't know what you'd call it besides a blog, though.


Togging/Mogging.


I'm going to call it Spogging.

Happy, was is useless or depressing? I find anything legal career related somewhat interesting but I could see it being useless to you guys and might just take it down.

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby outlawscr10 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:52 pm

Hey, Mike.

Any word on how T14 schools are planning to deal with the applicants drop?

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby hawkeye10 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:53 pm

Not Happy Gilmore, but that thing was depressing

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby iamgeorgebush » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:19 pm

MikeSpivey wrote:Here is a new blog article on The Future of Legal Services:

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/the-future-of-law/

Also, should I be using a word different than blog? The kid on White House Down (highly realistic movie) kepy saying that "blog" was old. Please help, I am old!

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby Daily_Double » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:20 pm

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby hawkeye10 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:42 pm

Daily_Double wrote:
hawkeye10 wrote:Not Happy Gilmore, but that thing was depressing


Eh, it's just a speculative view based upon previous trends. It may or may not be correct, but regardless of its truth, many other fields will be impacted, and possibly altered in some way, due to legislation, innovation, or market forces. It is foreseeable that law will be one such field, leaving us and future generations to improvise, adapt, and overcome---or simply to leave the field, possibly due to changing gender roles, to stay home and teach our kids how to throw a ball, to make sure they watch the classics: Hook, Home Alone, Parent Trap, Alfalfa, and the Goonies, among others, and ensure they never forget that Jordan is better than LeBron.


Good point.

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Re: Q&A with former Admissions Officers

Postby MikeSpivey » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:37 pm

outlawscr10 wrote:Hey, Mike.

Any word on how T14 schools are planning to deal with the applicants drop?


I worry there will be a lot more of "accept our scholarship X date and withdraw from all schools who have admitted you or we reserve the right to rescind your offer" tactic that some schools, e.g. NYU, UVA, Duke, have started using"

On the plus side there should be more scholarship money like what Chicago has done.


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