Npret wrote: SCG_Anna wrote: AlexFergusonLS wrote:
SCG_Anna wrote:Hello TLS! My name is Anna, and I've been working with SCG for a few years now, but only recently full-time. I actually first started working with Mike when he posted about an internship in this very thread. Hooray for TLS!
I'm not a consultant, and I don't have any experience working with admissions offices, but I did go through the application process and ended up with some difficult decisions to make about where to attend. I ended up choosing UVA, where I received a Dillard full scholarship.
I'd be happy to answer any questions about the process of choosing a law school (e.g. based on your specific situation/choices) or about UVA specifically!
I have a low (3.0-3.3) GPA and am waitlisted at Harvard (big splitter, non-URM). I can't seem to find a single historical example of someone with under a 3.3 GPA getting in off the waitlist. Any advice or thoughts?
Unfortunately I'm really not qualified to answer questions about admissions/WLs/etc.
I should have clarified - I can only answer questions from my own personal perspective, and only about choosing a law school type topics.
Given the seemingly endless threads here where people doubt taking a full or significant scholarships at T14 schools over sticker or significant debt at Harvard or other schools, do you mind explaining your decision process in choosing the Dillard?
It seems that often explaining the advantage of no debt or significantly reduced debt and the similar outcomes available from top schools is unconvincing to many 0Ls.
I'm not asking you to necessarily make specific recommendations, but walking through your decision process might help others clarify their thinking.
A few examples:viewtopic.php?f=1&t=274520viewtopic.php?f=1&t=276286viewtopic.php?f=1&t=275838viewtopic.php?f=1&t=276214
Thanks and congrats on the full time job with Spivey
For me, debt load was my #1 concern going into the admissions process, although admittedly the prestige factor can be tempting. I think it can be difficult for anyone to fully understand, going into law school, what the debt load will actually be like after graduation just because we've never experienced anything close to it. $100,000 of debt to me felt just as unimaginably enormous as $300,000 of debt (though of course intellectually I understood that they're vastly different).
One thread that really caused it to hit home for me was this one: viewtopic.php?t=220025
(Student Loan Payments: Actual Numbers). And those numbers only get worse and worse as the years progress of course. People who had graduated and were paying off loans at the beginning of that thread, in 2013, had on average quite a bit less debt than the TLSers considering their law school options today. So that thread scared me.
For me, it came down to employment outcomes vs. debt load - and debt load not as one abstract big number, but as calculated payments, how it would really affect my everyday life after graduation. UVA's big law and clerkship numbers are great and honestly not substantially different from higher ranked schools. And it was a full scholarship (for me, $0 debt - yay being married to a spouse who works!) vs. $150k+ debt, so the choice was a no brainer. I'm also from VA and want to work in VA, so it was even more obvious a decision. If you lose the geographical preference factor, as you get more and more disparity in employment outcomes or less and less disparity in debt load, the choice becomes less clear. The only thing I can recommend is trying to really understand what the debt will mean in your life.