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3L Honor Code Violation and Bar Admission

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:33 pm

Hello everyone,
I have a situation and would appreciate any input.
I am a 3L and was convicted of an honor code violation lately. It was a midterm and I overtpyed for about 20 seconds after time was called. The sanction was 1/3 letter grade reduction of the midterm. The investigator noted that the violation was "minor" but still, it was a honor code violation in my record, and in the 3L year. I am not gonna appeal because the record was clear. But I am wondering if I would fail C&F and be denied from bar admission.
Thank you for every thought or advice.

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Re: 3L Honor Code Violation and Bar Admission

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:24 pm

I cannot imagine that this would be a c&f issue, as long as you’re transparent about it and disclose it to the bar. It seems a little over the top to me that your school considered this an honor code violation. I once had a situation where I had three eight hour take home exams in three days (easy to identify this school which is why I’m anon). You can take the exams whenever you want, they’re online and timed, you just have to finish them all by day 3. Long story short, I ended up with two left to take the night of the second day, was exhausted from studying, and miscalculated the eight hours so I thought I needed to turn it in at 2am instead of 1am. The software doesn’t indicate the time at all, and I ended up submitting it at like 130am. The school emailed me about it the next day, I was mortified and explained what happened, the prof was told the situation and I think just didn’t grade the last question. That was it. Seems like a much more reasonable response to me although I guess mine was unintentional and yours wasn’t

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Re: 3L Honor Code Violation and Bar Admission

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:58 pm

Thanks for sharing your experience and I appreciate it. The school policy is in a proctor-administered exam, if you don't stop typing immediately when proctor calls, it is an honor code violation. Yeah I think an intentional violation looks awful in C&F.
I aim for NY bar and the cases I can find where someone is denied admission into it are mostly failure to disclose or lying during the application. My guess is I would get admitted after all (with full disclosure) but need to go through several rounds of "interview" or hearing. But I just cannot help thinking about it and am nearly stressed out.
Anonymous User wrote:I cannot imagine that this would be a c&f issue, as long as you’re transparent about it and disclose it to the bar. It seems a little over the top to me that your school considered this an honor code violation. I once had a situation where I had three eight hour take home exams in three days (easy to identify this school which is why I’m anon). You can take the exams whenever you want, they’re online and timed, you just have to finish them all by day 3. Long story short, I ended up with two left to take the night of the second day, was exhausted from studying, and miscalculated the eight hours so I thought I needed to turn it in at 2am instead of 1am. The software doesn’t indicate the time at all, and I ended up submitting it at like 130am. The school emailed me about it the next day, I was mortified and explained what happened, the prof was told the situation and I think just didn’t grade the last question. That was it. Seems like a much more reasonable response to me although I guess mine was unintentional and yours wasn’t

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Re: 3L Honor Code Violation and Bar Admission

Postby Moabit » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:33 pm

If this is the only incident involving moral turpitude that you will have to report, you should be fine. I don't think it is even worth a hearing. Don't stress out too much.

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Re: 3L Honor Code Violation and Bar Admission

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:15 am

Thank you. That's a great relief.
Moabit wrote:If this is the only incident involving moral turpitude that you will have to report, you should be fine. I don't think it is even worth a hearing. Don't stress out too much.



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