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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby mathandthelaw » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:07 pm

yespasscbx wrote:
davisr197 wrote:Can someone help me out with an impleader question?

I understand that a defendant can implead a 3rd party defendant for indemnity or contribution. My issue is can the plaintiff, once the defendant impleads the TPD, make a claim against the TPD?

Second part of the question is if the TPD is from the same state as the plaintiff would this destroy diversity? I know that since the defendant added the TPD, this alone would not destroy diversity, however, does the plaintiffs claim arising out of the same transaction or occurrence against the TPD destroy diversity?

Thanks for the help everyone!



Yes, the plaintiff can sue TPD if his claim arises from the same T/O; SJ does not apply here, so you must find DOCJ or FQJ for the plaintiff vs TPD claim.


Oh DOCJ is diversity of citizenship jx. I usually say Div. Nvm!
I have the same understanding as you.

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby MBernard » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:54 pm

The J18 bar exam solutions are now available on the CBX site (link - http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/docu ... nswers.pdf). Posting this in case any Feb takers are interested in knowing how the answers were setup. Always possible the examiners could choose to test pure evidence or contracts (or really any of the like) again; however, my money is on the examiners testing hybrid topics.

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby mathandthelaw » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:20 pm

MBernard wrote:The J18 bar exam solutions are now available on the CBX site (link - http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/docu ... nswers.pdf). Posting this in case any Feb takers are interested in knowing how the answers were setup. Always possible the examiners could choose to test pure evidence or contracts (or really any of the like) again; however, my money is on the examiners testing hybrid topics.


Thanks friend. It actually put a smile on my face to review these. Of course, none of the selected answers were mine, but I was pleased to read that despite my mistakes I kept focusing on, I did very well on the essays and PT (PT selected answer 1 was written so similar to mine). It was nice to see all the hard work pay off. And that came from repetition, practicing writing out in full and timed essays, approximately 2 a day. I did approximately 7 timed written out PT and outlined many. I also reviewed the 10 year most recent Calbar essays. Just some info for anyone who was curious as to what I did to do well on the essays/PTs portion.

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby barjamie8 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:16 pm

MBernard wrote:The J18 bar exam solutions are now available on the CBX site (link - http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/docu ... nswers.pdf). Posting this in case any Feb takers are interested in knowing how the answers were setup. Always possible the examiners could choose to test pure evidence or contracts (or really any of the like) again; however, my money is on the examiners testing hybrid topics.


Keep in mind that these are among the top answers in the state and will include all kinds of extra issues that you do not need to pass. Your average passing answer will look nothing like these posted ones.

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby Sammylo » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:08 pm

Does anyone have a baressays.com account or would like to split the fee for the site? I have the $25 discount code. Serious inquiries only.

Thanks

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby barjamie8 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:57 am

Sammylo wrote:Does anyone have a baressays.com account or would like to split the fee for the site? I have the $25 discount code. Serious inquiries only.

Thanks


I'd be careful. I've heard of people getting their accounts shut down for this because they check IP addresses.

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby yespasscbx » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:48 pm

Is anyone reviewing Wills now? I'm really confused about how the decedent's separate property (SP) is distributed when the decedent has a surviving spouse under the intestate distribution. I list some possibilities below, can anyone tell me if I understand the right way? Thanks!

1)survived by Spouse: Spouse gets 100% of the decedent's SP
2)survived by Spouse & Kid: Spouse 1/2; Kid 1/2
3)survived by Spouse & Kid-A & Kid-B: Spouse 1/3; Kid-A 1/3; Kid-B 1/3
4)survived by Spouse & Kid & Dad: Spouse 1/2; Kid 1/2; Dad zero
5)survived by Spouse & Kid & Brother: Spouse 1/2; Kid 1/2; Brother zero
6)survived by Spouse & Kid & Dad & Brother: Spouse 1/2; Kid 1/2; Dad zero; Brother zero
7)survived by Spouse & Kid-A & Kid-B & Dad: Spouse 1/3; Kid-A 1/3; Kid-B 1/3; Dad zero
8)survived by Spouse & Kid-A & Kid-B & Brother: Spouse 1/3; Kid-A 1/3; Kid-B 1/3; Brother zero
9)survived by Spouse & Kid-A & Kid-B & Dad & Brother: Spouse 1/3; Kid-A 1/3; Kid-B 1/3; Dad zero; Brother zero
10)survived by Spouse & Dad: Spouse 1/2; Dad 1/2
11)survived by Spouse & Dad & Mom: Spouse 1/3; Dad 1/3; Mom 1/3
12)survived by Spouse & Dad & Brother: Spouse 1/2; Dad 1/2; Brother zero
13)survived by Spouse & Dad & Brother & Sister: Spouse 1/2; Dad 1/2; Brother zero; Sister zero
14)survived by Spouse & Brother: Spouse 1/2; Brother 1/2
15)survived by Spouse & Brother & Sister: Spouse 1/3; Brother 1/3; Sister 1/3

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby JakeTappers » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:45 pm

bacillusanthracis wrote:
JakeTappers wrote:Is February considered an “easier” “curve”? I have no idea how scaling works but obviously February is more people that failed (including this guy who winged the attorneys exam) and they attempt to have same amount of people pas or whatever? Particularly if essays only?


February is not easier in any way. In my experience, the 2018 February essays were considerably more difficult than this past July's essays. There wasn't a single crossover in July. They were straightforward and only 5 subjects were tested. Crossovers aren't necessarily more difficult, but it does mean that your chance of hitting on a subject you're not that good at increases. For example, one essay last February tested real property, torts, and conlaw. The CBX called it "Real Property" but it hit three different subjects (trespassing, Takings, and a more conventional RP topic). There was also an essay testing contracts and PR, the latter of which contained a rule that I'd never seen on an exam.

At any rate, the point is that the February exam, in terms of difficulty, is likely to be tougher than July, so any curve advantage isn't worth considering. Just do you best and be ready for anything.


Understood. And I don’t doubt it re: the exam. But as someone who is deciding between the attorney and regular I’m trying to learn as much as I can about the exam, and the curve, whatever that even means. So question still stands. Is the same “raw” score likely to pass in February that wouldn’t in July??

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby frqw9201 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:05 pm

Is anyone selling Themis California books?

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby thrivethebar » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:57 am

Sammylo wrote:Does anyone have a baressays.com account or would like to split the fee for the site? I have the $25 discount code. Serious inquiries only.

Thanks


If you are looking for more CA graded essays and PTs, you can look at my website Thrive the Bar (http://www.thrivethebar.com). I'll be happy to give you free access. Simply sign up and email me for a rebate via Paypal or Venmo.

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby Pepp2019 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:56 am

frqw9201 wrote:Is anyone selling Themis California books?


I have the books and the actual course I can transfer to you. Great price. Dm me

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby barjamie8 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:35 pm

JakeTappers wrote:
bacillusanthracis wrote:
JakeTappers wrote:Is February considered an “easier” “curve”? I have no idea how scaling works but obviously February is more people that failed (including this guy who winged the attorneys exam) and they attempt to have same amount of people pas or whatever? Particularly if essays only?


February is not easier in any way. In my experience, the 2018 February essays were considerably more difficult than this past July's essays. There wasn't a single crossover in July. They were straightforward and only 5 subjects were tested. Crossovers aren't necessarily more difficult, but it does mean that your chance of hitting on a subject you're not that good at increases. For example, one essay last February tested real property, torts, and conlaw. The CBX called it "Real Property" but it hit three different subjects (trespassing, Takings, and a more conventional RP topic). There was also an essay testing contracts and PR, the latter of which contained a rule that I'd never seen on an exam.

At any rate, the point is that the February exam, in terms of difficulty, is likely to be tougher than July, so any curve advantage isn't worth considering. Just do you best and be ready for anything.


Understood. And I don’t doubt it re: the exam. But as someone who is deciding between the attorney and regular I’m trying to learn as much as I can about the exam, and the curve, whatever that even means. So question still stands. Is the same “raw” score likely to pass in February that wouldn’t in July??


The rumor is that the Feb is harder because law schools do not pay attention as much. The Feb exam pass rate does not factor into law school rankings.

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby JakeTappers » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:49 pm

barjamie8 wrote:
JakeTappers wrote:
bacillusanthracis wrote:
JakeTappers wrote:Is February considered an “easier” “curve”? I have no idea how scaling works but obviously February is more people that failed (including this guy who winged the attorneys exam) and they attempt to have same amount of people pas or whatever? Particularly if essays only?


February is not easier in any way. In my experience, the 2018 February essays were considerably more difficult than this past July's essays. There wasn't a single crossover in July. They were straightforward and only 5 subjects were tested. Crossovers aren't necessarily more difficult, but it does mean that your chance of hitting on a subject you're not that good at increases. For example, one essay last February tested real property, torts, and conlaw. The CBX called it "Real Property" but it hit three different subjects (trespassing, Takings, and a more conventional RP topic). There was also an essay testing contracts and PR, the latter of which contained a rule that I'd never seen on an exam.

At any rate, the point is that the February exam, in terms of difficulty, is likely to be tougher than July, so any curve advantage isn't worth considering. Just do you best and be ready for anything.


Understood. And I don’t doubt it re: the exam. But as someone who is deciding between the attorney and regular I’m trying to learn as much as I can about the exam, and the curve, whatever that even means. So question still stands. Is the same “raw” score likely to pass in February that wouldn’t in July??


The rumor is that the Feb is harder because law schools do not pay attention as much. The Feb exam pass rate does not factor into law school rankings.


I think we are talking about much different things. What I want to know is, is the minimum passing MBE raw score lower or higher in February? Regardless of the exam's "difficulty" I just want to know if you are more likely to pass in one or the other with a "x" raw score (say, 119, or whatever).

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby JakeTappers » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:14 pm

Seeing if anyone can confirm this. I took the attorneys exam this year and failed with a ~1390 scaled. I used the onetimers calculator with my exact essay scores and then changed the MBE until I came up with the exact score. That came out to 123. Is there anyway to determine what that is in terms of percentage? If it is out 175, it is over 70% correct, which seems like would be a high median [my understanding is that they assign attorney examinees a median]. If that's correct, I'm currently adaptibaring at 62% and figure I should just do attorneys again and take the 70% or whatever.

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby FinallyPassedTheBar » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:20 pm

JakeTappers wrote:Seeing if anyone can confirm this. I took the attorneys exam this year and failed with a ~1390 scaled. I used the onetimers calculator with my exact essay scores and then changed the MBE until I came up with the exact score. That came out to 123. Is there anyway to determine what that is in terms of percentage? If it is out 175, it is over 70% correct, which seems like would be a high median [my understanding is that they assign attorney examinees a median]. If that's correct, I'm currently adaptibaring at 62% and figure I should just do attorneys again and take the 70% or whatever.



When's the deadline to decide between the general exam and the atty's exam? Ideally, you want to be above 70% for your most recent 600 questions. Your overall percentage could be lower if you were getting a ton of questions wrong when you first started adaptibar. That shouldn't be a problem as long as your latest question sets are above 70%

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby JakeTappers » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:24 pm

FinallyPassedTheBar wrote:
JakeTappers wrote:Seeing if anyone can confirm this. I took the attorneys exam this year and failed with a ~1390 scaled. I used the onetimers calculator with my exact essay scores and then changed the MBE until I came up with the exact score. That came out to 123. Is there anyway to determine what that is in terms of percentage? If it is out 175, it is over 70% correct, which seems like would be a high median [my understanding is that they assign attorney examinees a median]. If that's correct, I'm currently adaptibaring at 62% and figure I should just do attorneys again and take the 70% or whatever.



When's the deadline to decide between the general exam and the atty's exam? Ideally, you want to be above 70% for your most recent 600 questions. Your overall percentage could be lower if you were getting a ton of questions wrong when you first started adaptibar. That shouldn't be a problem as long as your latest question sets are above 70%


I have to decide by this week. I am actually doing slightly worse on Adaptibar this month, but its probably feeding me problem areas. I think its generally reasonable for me to think I could make up 8% and get to 70% by the time the exam came around, but my point is that if I'm going to get assigned a 70% by taking the attorneys exam, I might as well not do that and just take the essays again. But it seems like 70% would be an awfully high median for a test that the majority of people statistically fail.

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby barjamie8 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:18 pm

JakeTappers wrote:
FinallyPassedTheBar wrote:
JakeTappers wrote:Seeing if anyone can confirm this. I took the attorneys exam this year and failed with a ~1390 scaled. I used the onetimers calculator with my exact essay scores and then changed the MBE until I came up with the exact score. That came out to 123. Is there anyway to determine what that is in terms of percentage? If it is out 175, it is over 70% correct, which seems like would be a high median [my understanding is that they assign attorney examinees a median]. If that's correct, I'm currently adaptibaring at 62% and figure I should just do attorneys again and take the 70% or whatever.



When's the deadline to decide between the general exam and the atty's exam? Ideally, you want to be above 70% for your most recent 600 questions. Your overall percentage could be lower if you were getting a ton of questions wrong when you first started adaptibar. That shouldn't be a problem as long as your latest question sets are above 70%


I have to decide by this week. I am actually doing slightly worse on Adaptibar this month, but its probably feeding me problem areas. I think its generally reasonable for me to think I could make up 8% and get to 70% by the time the exam came around, but my point is that if I'm going to get assigned a 70% by taking the attorneys exam, I might as well not do that and just take the essays again. But it seems like 70% would be an awfully high median for a test that the majority of people statistically fail.


I would do the atty exam and spend all of your time studying for essays instead of wasting a ton of time practicing thousands of MBE questions.

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Re: 2019 February California Bar

Postby a male human » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:48 pm

Is it me, or is the 2019 Feb cycle kind of dead? :lol: Like there are fewer people taking it even compared to other February exams?



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