Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby NoBladesNoBows » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:07 am

White Dwarf wrote:Finished around 30 minutes early on both. I may have rushed a little in the afternoon, but there was no way I was going to sit around for another hour waiting to leave just so my fried brain could reconsider a couple problems that I was 50/50 on.

Exactly this.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby estefanchanning » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:50 pm

NoBladesNoBows wrote:
White Dwarf wrote:Finished around 30 minutes early on both. I may have rushed a little in the afternoon, but there was no way I was going to sit around for another hour waiting to leave just so my fried brain could reconsider a couple problems that I was 50/50 on.

Exactly this.


I don't understand this logic. If you're super smart and confident about your answers, then sure leave early? But I would hate to fail the bar by 3-4 MBE Qs because "no way I was going to sit around for another hour waiting to leave so my friend brain could reconsider a couple problems that I was 50/50 on."

I would infinitely rather fry my brain going over problems despite how sure I am if it means getting one extra question right. Spending an extra hour in the testing center pales in comparison to the prospect of having to repeat the study process and taking the exam again.

So, future bar takers, I urge you to not follow these guys' habits. They are likely extremely intelligent and probably score in the 99th percentile, hence their confidence. I have many friends from different states who literally failed by 9-10 points. You don't want that to be you.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby Lord Blackstone » Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:28 pm

The first exam I took was in DC. I finished each section with time to spare (around 20 min for the MBE,) and turned in my test early.

The second exam I took was in GA. I finished both halves of the MBE with 20 minutes to spare. But, unlike in DC, I had to sit there like a schmo with literally nothing to do until time ran out.

I answered about 2,500 practice questions in preparation for each exam and I passed both. But it was a close score in each instance.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby NoBladesNoBows » Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:31 pm

estefanchanning wrote:
NoBladesNoBows wrote:
White Dwarf wrote:Finished around 30 minutes early on both. I may have rushed a little in the afternoon, but there was no way I was going to sit around for another hour waiting to leave just so my fried brain could reconsider a couple problems that I was 50/50 on.

Exactly this.


I don't understand this logic. If you're super smart and confident about your answers, then sure leave early? But I would hate to fail the bar by 3-4 MBE Qs because "no way I was going to sit around for another hour waiting to leave so my friend brain could reconsider a couple problems that I was 50/50 on."

I would infinitely rather fry my brain going over problems despite how sure I am if it means getting one extra question right. Spending an extra hour in the testing center pales in comparison to the prospect of having to repeat the study process and taking the exam again.

So, future bar takers, I urge you to not follow these guys' habits. They are likely extremely intelligent and probably score in the 99th percentile, hence their confidence. I have many friends from different states who literally failed by 9-10 points. You don't want that to be you.

Ehh I don't really feel awesome about the test, I just didn't feel like I had anything more beneficial that I could do by the time I got to the end. I checked back through all my AM answers at the end and only changed a few, and wasn't sure that those needed to be changed anyway. I was so exhausted and drained by the end of PM that I felt like checking back over everything would have a very low chance of improving my score and a similar chance of lowering it, so why bother. I read carefully and thoughtfully as I answered them and did one last smell-test before I moved on.

But this certainly wasn't meant as advice for anyone else or anything, do what works for you. If you find that you catch mistakes and do better when you check back over, no matter how tired you are, go for it. I was just completely spent at the end and had pretty much accepted that I'd done the best I could and there was nothing more to do at that point.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby White Dwarf » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:39 pm

Yeah, I tanked my LSAT score the first time I took it because I went back at the end of sections and wound up changing 7 answers from right to wrong. Having extra time just gave me time to over-analyze things. Unless you misread the prompt or made some obvious error, I don't think spending significantly more time on a multiple choice question helps you get it right.

I don't think I ever went back and changed an answer during the practice MBE sets. It didn't make sense to start on test day. Stick with what works for you.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby Pneumonia » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:13 pm

I finished both sections 30+ minutes early last year and passed comfortably. You either know the answers or you don't. If I had to guess on a question (probably about 40% of them—I only got to 50% or so on BARBRI), I made my best guess and moved on. Most people feel pretty bad about the MBE walking out, so if you felt ok then that's a good sign.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby 4LTsPointingNorth » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:18 pm

estefanchanning wrote:
NoBladesNoBows wrote:
White Dwarf wrote:Finished around 30 minutes early on both. I may have rushed a little in the afternoon, but there was no way I was going to sit around for another hour waiting to leave just so my fried brain could reconsider a couple problems that I was 50/50 on.

Exactly this.


I don't understand this logic. If you're super smart and confident about your answers, then sure leave early? But I would hate to fail the bar by 3-4 MBE Qs because "no way I was going to sit around for another hour waiting to leave so my friend brain could reconsider a couple problems that I was 50/50 on."

I would infinitely rather fry my brain going over problems despite how sure I am if it means getting one extra question right. Spending an extra hour in the testing center pales in comparison to the prospect of having to repeat the study process and taking the exam again.

So, future bar takers, I urge you to not follow these guys' habits. They are likely extremely intelligent and probably score in the 99th percentile, hence their confidence. I have many friends from different states who literally failed by 9-10 points. You don't want that to be you.


There is a high degree of risk in changing answers you were 50/50 on. Your brain only gets more tired during the test, and you likely made your initial answer choice for a reason. If you often went back and changed answers during your prep, then great, maybe that's just your process. But like the above poster said, definitely don't start doing that for the first time on exam day.

That said, it is always worth the extra 10-20 minutes to triple check that you bubbled everything in exactly as you intended to, and that there are no stray marks or partially bubbled answers. It's also worth taking the time to re-read all of the questions and to make sure that the answer choices you selected are actually responsive to the call of the question (e.g., that you didn't miss a negative or qualifying word in the call of the question or that you didn't select an obvious distractor after failing to read the choices closely enough).

But after all that is done, I definitely think it's wiser to just leave early than to start switching from option A to option B when you were originally 50/50 between them.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby estefanchanning » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:27 pm

4LTsPointingNorth wrote:
estefanchanning wrote:
NoBladesNoBows wrote:
White Dwarf wrote:Finished around 30 minutes early on both. I may have rushed a little in the afternoon, but there was no way I was going to sit around for another hour waiting to leave just so my fried brain could reconsider a couple problems that I was 50/50 on.

Exactly this.


I don't understand this logic. If you're super smart and confident about your answers, then sure leave early? But I would hate to fail the bar by 3-4 MBE Qs because "no way I was going to sit around for another hour waiting to leave so my friend brain could reconsider a couple problems that I was 50/50 on."

I would infinitely rather fry my brain going over problems despite how sure I am if it means getting one extra question right. Spending an extra hour in the testing center pales in comparison to the prospect of having to repeat the study process and taking the exam again.

So, future bar takers, I urge you to not follow these guys' habits. They are likely extremely intelligent and probably score in the 99th percentile, hence their confidence. I have many friends from different states who literally failed by 9-10 points. You don't want that to be you.


There is a high degree of risk in changing answers you were 50/50 on. Your brain only gets more tired during the test, and you likely made your initial answer choice for a reason. If you often went back and changed answers during your prep, then great, maybe that's just your process. But like the above poster said, definitely don't start doing that for the first time on exam day.

That said, it is always worth the extra 10-20 minutes to triple check that you bubbled everything in exactly as you intended to, and that there are no stray marks or partially bubbled answers. It's also worth taking the time to re-read all of the questions and to make sure that the answer choices you selected are actually responsive to the call of the question (e.g., that you didn't miss a negative or qualifying word in the call of the question or that you didn't select an obvious distractor after failing to read the choices closely enough).

But after all that is done, I definitely think it's wiser to just leave early than to start switching from option A to option B when you were originally 50/50 between them.


Yes I agree with all that. I don't think my post was contrary? But also on that note, I really don't see how someone can answer 100 Qs and do all you stated and still finish early. Unless that person is a genius.

Also, changing your answer on questions you were 50/50 on isn't necessarily a bad thing. I agree you shouldn't make it a habit, but there have been multiple times where I changed my answer because I skipped a word in the question in my haste to finish on time.

Maybe I'm sounding like an old broken record, but I just feel the stakes are so incredibly high on this exam that I wouldnt want the act of leaving early to haunt me if I fail (I just took the July exam). And I tend to impute my fear onto others because I know how hard they studied and would hate for them to fail because they missed 2-3 questions and left an hour early.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby kyle010723 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:11 am

Agree with the above poster regarding better to leave early.

After months long training, I would trust your instinct in answering questions. Going back after going through 100 questions not only means you would likely over analyze the question, you would also second guess your instinctive answers—with a burnt out brain by the point.

Now if there were some super complicated long questions, sure, go back and reread it to be sure you didn’t miss something. But otherwise, for Barbri and for the real MBE, I only went back to ensure I filled in the scantron correctly.

Again, totally a personal preference. But I am in the trust your instinct camp. I left with close to an hour to spare and still did decently well on the MBE.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby nixy » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:36 am

estefanchanning wrote:But also on that note, I really don't see how someone can answer 100 Qs and do all you stated and still finish early. Unless that person is a genius.

I'm absolutely not a genius, but I did all that. I just read quickly. It doesn't take very long to read 100 questions. I always finished the LR and RC sections of the LSAT early, too, and finished the MPRE early. Purely reading speed.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby justanotheruser » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:48 pm

Granted, the MBE was a huge strength for me when I passed (confirmed I got 150+ on the 2/18 CA bar), but I was finishing early in almost every mixed MBE set. Finishing early on the actual MBEs would have bothered me more if (1) I didn't trust my instincts or process and/or (2) I never finished early during studying.

nixy wrote:
estefanchanning wrote:But also on that note, I really don't see how someone can answer 100 Qs and do all you stated and still finish early. Unless that person is a genius.

I'm absolutely not a genius, but I did all that. I just read quickly. It doesn't take very long to read 100 questions. I always finished the LR and RC sections of the LSAT early, too, and finished the MPRE early. Purely reading speed.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby Auxilio » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:47 am

I did 20 questions -> get up piss/grab a cup of water, slowly drink it (probably about 4 minutes break) -> 20 questions etc.

Still finished with about 50-60 minutes left for both, went back and reread a few that I was really uncertain of, but generally I wanted to trust my gut on difficult questions. Walked out about 40 minutes early. I was doing practice sets in about 40-50% of the allowed time (except for when I would just get up mid set and cook dinner or something). I read fast and generally believe in trusting instinct. Think I would have done worse if I went back and changed stuff.

Was getting about 74-80% on later practice set questions, so have some faith.

re: the above discussions, I think you have to know yourself if it's better to walk up and leave or go back and deep-analyse, but I strongly suggest anyone who doesn't feel crunched for time do the brief walk/break every 20 or so questions. I noticed when going through practice sets that I almost always did best at the beginning or when returning from a break.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby Findedeux » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:21 am

I understand the reluctance to change answers especially if you never changed answers during practice tests.

However, I also know that every test I would get some easy answers wrong and always wished that I could at least stop getting easy answers wrong.

Easy answers or trick questions are the types of answers you have a decent chance of fixing on a review.

That said, some answers I just wasn't sure. One of the questions that dealt with amendments I got wrong and then changed my answer and still got it wrong.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby dudders » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:28 am

Amount of time it takes you to finish is not an indicator of how you did. Some people, like me, are extremely fast readers and test takers. I finished both sections 60-90 mins early. It doesn't mean I knew EVERY answer, I just recognize quickly if I know it or I don't. I passed with flying colors. I had friends who didn't even finish the MBE who also passed.

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Re: Anyone else finish the mbe really early?

Postby pfunkera » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:05 pm

took it in February. I probably had about 30-40 minutes left after the morning and afternoon session. As I took the test, I answered every question but marked down the ones I wanted to come back to on the front inside cover. I probably had about 20-25 questions from each session that I went back to and I definitely changed some answers. I ended up scoring really well but it is impossible to say if changing those answers helped or hurt me but I only changed them if I truly felt better about the new answer choice.

I took the entire time for every single session of the Bar exam. I put way too much time, money, and stress into that test to leave early. However, the guy next to me left with an hour left for each session of the MBE but he passed because I saw him at the C&F interviews :)



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