Does Themis Grade harder than bar examiners?

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Lawworld19

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Does Themis Grade harder than bar examiners?

Postby Lawworld19 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:48 pm

I know Barbri does apparently. Just scored a 3 on a graded essay, feel like I knew the law decently well (torts).

Anyone take themis where they were scoring poorly then do ok on the bar exam?

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Re: Does Themis Grade harder than bar examiners?

Postby Splurgles23 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:07 pm

Themis and Barbri both grades the essay portions much more harshly than the actual exam graders, who are lawyers drafted for the purpose temporarily and are not trying to nitpick when they have to grade the hundreds of the exams given to them. The essay portion is much easier than the multiple-choice, partly for that very reason.

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Re: Does Themis Grade harder than bar examiners?

Postby juliejul » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:48 pm

In my experience, yes! I did all of the graded essays, gave them a good amount of effort, and didn't do great. I think I was typically around 50-60th percentile on my practice test percentiles, except on the MPT practice where I was a bit higher. I scored in the 98-99th percentile on essays on the actual bar (Feb '18 UBE).

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Re: Does Themis Grade harder than bar examiners?

Postby barmagot » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:26 am

Similar story with my Barbri prep so far.. I did really well on an essay (knew every answer, felt super confident, matched the model answer in all material ways), and I was graded a 65/100... Couldn't believe it. I considered asking Barbri for another rep to grade it, but never did.

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Re: Does Themis Grade harder than bar examiners?

Postby SilvermanBarPrep » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:51 am

They do, from what I can tell. And the reason is because it really wouldn't be great for either you or for them if you score lowest when it counts. I do think that sometimes this approach of scoring so harshly can be detrimental but on balance it's probably the correct approach.

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Re: Does Themis Grade harder than bar examiners?

Postby barjamie8 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:40 pm

barmagot wrote:Similar story with my Barbri prep so far.. I did really well on an essay (knew every answer, felt super confident, matched the model answer in all material ways), and I was graded a 65/100... Couldn't believe it. I considered asking Barbri for another rep to grade it, but never did.


Are you in California? I ran into the same issue and found it far more helpful to compare my essays to the real ones that scored 65, 70, etc (you can see these on BarEssays.com) to see if the grading is correct. I don't trust the so-called course rep graders at all.

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Re: Does Themis Grade harder than bar examiners?

Postby barmagot » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:17 am

barjamie8 wrote:
barmagot wrote:Similar story with my Barbri prep so far.. I did really well on an essay (knew every answer, felt super confident, matched the model answer in all material ways), and I was graded a 65/100... Couldn't believe it. I considered asking Barbri for another rep to grade it, but never did.


Are you in California? I ran into the same issue and found it far more helpful to compare my essays to the real ones that scored 65, 70, etc (you can see these on BarEssays.com) to see if the grading is correct. I don't trust the so-called course rep graders at all.



I'm in NY; but how did your answer compare to BarEssays 65-70 answers? I'm curious



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