Is the Barbri Convisor the only BL outline you need for the CA bar?

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mrlawguy

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Is the Barbri Convisor the only BL outline you need for the CA bar?

Postby mrlawguy » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:45 pm

I understand that there are many additional resources that should be used during bar prep (e.g. AdaptiBar, past performance tests, etc.).

However, my question is specifically about black letter outlines. I have heard from several sources that it is enough to use the Barbri Convisor (thinner outline book) opposed to Barbri's full outline (thicker outline book). Is this correct?

I would appreciate hearing from those of you who have taken the bar.

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Re: Is the Barbri Convisor the only BL outline you need for the CA bar?

Postby Baller31 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:19 am

If you are good at making your own examples then Convisor might be good for you but the big outline is what really teaches you how the law is applied with detail examples, 100%.Convisor is way too short, at least too short for the MBE that is.

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Re: Is the Barbri Convisor the only BL outline you need for the CA bar?

Postby anon3030 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:53 pm

With less than 2 weeks to go, the Convisor is all you need. I took and passed the July 2017 bar, and I only used the Convisor the last 3-4 weeks. The full outline is way too long. I agree that the Convisor is 100% too short to get a 100% on the exam, but you only need like a 70% to safely pass. Knowing like 80% of what is in the Convisor should be enough.

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Re: Is the Barbri Convisor the only BL outline you need for the CA bar?

Postby pfunkera » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:41 pm

I never even opened the big outline, we will see how I do but the mini-outline covers the majority if what I have seen in the MBE questions from what I can tell.

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Re: Is the Barbri Convisor the only BL outline you need for the CA bar?

Postby LockBox » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:54 pm

https://law.stanford.edu/office-of-stud ... formation/

I'd argue that even the Convisor is too much. This is all I used and passed easily (Scroll to the bottom). You need to boil down the law and understand how to apply it. Not look through some treatise because you think it'll have every detail in there.

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Re: Is the Barbri Convisor the only BL outline you need for the CA bar?

Postby pfunkera » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:28 pm

LockBox wrote:https://law.stanford.edu/office-of-student-affairs/bar-exam-information/

I'd argue that even the Convisor is too much. This is all I used and passed easily (Scroll to the bottom). You need to boil down the law and understand how to apply it. Not look through some treatise because you think it'll have every detail in there.


thanks - wish I knew about this about a month ago!

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Re: Is the Barbri Convisor the only BL outline you need for the CA bar?

Postby mrlawguy » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:37 pm

LockBox wrote:https://law.stanford.edu/office-of-student-affairs/bar-exam-information/

I'd argue that even the Convisor is too much. This is all I used and passed easily (Scroll to the bottom). You need to boil down the law and understand how to apply it. Not look through some treatise because you think it'll have every detail in there.


This is awesome man. I think it'd be a little too short for me to learn subjects I didn't take in law school, but this would be a very valuable supplement for everything else. Thanks.

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Re: Is the Barbri Convisor the only BL outline you need for the CA bar?

Postby LockBox » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:29 pm

mrlawguy wrote:
LockBox wrote:https://law.stanford.edu/office-of-student-affairs/bar-exam-information/

I'd argue that even the Convisor is too much. This is all I used and passed easily (Scroll to the bottom). You need to boil down the law and understand how to apply it. Not look through some treatise because you think it'll have every detail in there.


This is awesome man. I think it'd be a little too short for me to learn subjects I didn't take in law school, but this would be a very valuable supplement for everything else. Thanks.


No problem. While i'm not sure what your learning style is, my recommendation would be to spend a day or two (max) on reading an outline/watching a lecture on a subject you're learning. After that, take practice tests and use your best effort to write a passing answer. Afterwards, review with a model answer. Rinse and repeat. At least for me, constantly testing myself (and failing) and learning from it helped me pass. Good luck.



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