Desperately need help with Essays

L_William_W
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Re: Desperately need help with Essays

Postby L_William_W » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:01 am

verejacob wrote:I missed passing July 2017 NY exam by 10 points. MBE 135, MEE/MPT - 121. Seems I was underprepared for MEE/MPT. Will retake Feb 2018 exam. I have access to Barbri and I have purchased Emanuel MBE S&T and Critical Pass.

My question to those who passed and especially did well in MEE/MPT -
1. What gameplan/strategy did you follow that helped you ace MEE/MPT?
2. Did anyone find Studicata, JD Advising's One Sheets, or Lean Sheets helpful for MEE?
3. What are the best resources to learn and memorize BLL? Conviser? Any other suggestions?

I want to make sure I'm in the right track and prepared well this time for MEE/MPT.

For July 2017 exam, I had spent most of my time making my own outline of MBE subjects and listening to video lectures, and I didn't get much time to go through Barbri's Conviser and the MEEs/MPT books thoroughly and maybe that's why I deserve the numbers I got.

There's just so much of noise out with different TLS posters using and recommending Adaptibar, NCBE MBE OPEs, Serapac UBE Master, JD Advising's One Sheets, etc. It's making me confused and has left me wondering if I'm on the right track for Feb 2018 exam. Thanks again in advance for any suggestion/advise/strategy you may have for me. :D


I passed NY on my 3rd attempt. It also took me 3 attempts to pass pre-UBE NJ. I passed NJ in July 2015 and NY in July 2017. The first time I took NY (February 2014), I didn't complete the exam due to a medical emergency. The second time I took NY (July 2014), I bombed it. My MBE was a 118.6. I was scheduled to take NJ after the second day of NY. I didn't even bother showing up. I took NJ in February 2015 and failed with a 123.2 MBE. I passed NJ in July 2015 with a 130.2 MBE. I passed NY in July 2017 with a 149.3 MBE.

In 2014, I was dealing with medical issues and low self-confidence after 7 shitty semesters in law school. I froze the first two times I took the bar. After I got the monkey off my back in July 2015, I realized that the bar exam can be beaten. Passing wasn't impossible.

My overall score was a 278 (as you know, passing is 266). I technically failed the MEE/MPT portion. I totally fucked up on the second MPT. As for MEE's, I guess you can print out as many old exams as possible and look for patterns in the correct answers. There are certain trigger words that earn you points.

Don't waste your money on Lean Sheets. I bought them. They're utterly useless. I strongly suggest making your own outlines. I provided links to some FREE outlines. I used them and it helped me a lot. Use them as a reference, but still make your own outlines. There are some California distinctions- ignore them:

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

http://barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlines/E ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/images/Civ ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

Also, buy some used Barbri books on Amazon. Don't try to memorize the whole thing- just memorize the Conviser.

As for the MBE, simply doing a lot isn't enough. You need a specific technique which will help you attack it.

These books give you instructions on how to break down MBE questions:

https://www.amazon.com/MBE-Bootcamp-Con ... l+bootcamp

https://www.amazon.com/MBE-Bootcamp-Tor ... l+bootcamp

https://www.amazon.com/MBE-Bootcamp-Cri ... l+bootcamp

https://www.amazon.com/MBE-Bootcamp-Con ... l+bootcamp

https://www.amazon.com/MBE-Bootcamp-Pro ... l+bootcamp

https://www.amazon.com/MBE-Bootcamp-Evi ... l+bootcamp

Once you've read these books, practice the techniques on these books:

https://www.amazon.com/Strategies-Tacti ... or+the+mbe

https://www.amazon.com/Kaplan-Practice- ... filter-bar

These questions are the hardest. They're the same level of difficulty as questions you'll encounter on the actual bar:

https://www.amazon.com/Strategies-Tacti ... ms?ie=UTF8

Adaptibar is shit. They use outdated questions that are way too easy. Furthermore, it's online. The actual MBE is done on a scantron. I don't make guarantees. However, I believe that my suggestions will help you pass.

I had a shitty LSAT score and nearly got academically dismissed- and I passed two bar exams. If I can pass a bar exam, any human being can pass a bar exam.

verejacob
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Re: Desperately need help with Essays

Postby verejacob » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:09 am

L_William_W wrote:
verejacob wrote:I missed passing July 2017 NY exam by 10 points. MBE 135, MEE/MPT - 121. Seems I was underprepared for MEE/MPT. Will retake Feb 2018 exam. I have access to Barbri and I have purchased Emanuel MBE S&T and Critical Pass.

My question to those who passed and especially did well in MEE/MPT -
1. What gameplan/strategy did you follow that helped you ace MEE/MPT?
2. Did anyone find Studicata, JD Advising's One Sheets, or Lean Sheets helpful for MEE?
3. What are the best resources to learn and memorize BLL? Conviser? Any other suggestions?

I want to make sure I'm in the right track and prepared well this time for MEE/MPT.

For July 2017 exam, I had spent most of my time making my own outline of MBE subjects and listening to video lectures, and I didn't get much time to go through Barbri's Conviser and the MEEs/MPT books thoroughly and maybe that's why I deserve the numbers I got.

There's just so much of noise out with different TLS posters using and recommending Adaptibar, NCBE MBE OPEs, Serapac UBE Master, JD Advising's One Sheets, etc. It's making me confused and has left me wondering if I'm on the right track for Feb 2018 exam. Thanks again in advance for any suggestion/advise/strategy you may have for me. :D


I passed NY on my 3rd attempt. It also took me 3 attempts to pass pre-UBE NJ. I passed NJ in July 2015 and NY in July 2017. The first time I took NY (February 2014), I didn't complete the exam due to a medical emergency. The second time I took NY (July 2014), I bombed it. My MBE was a 118.6. I was scheduled to take NJ after the second day of NY. I didn't even bother showing up. I took NJ in February 2015 and failed with a 123.2 MBE. I passed NJ in July 2015 with a 130.2 MBE. I passed NY in July 2017 with a 149.3 MBE.

In 2014, I was dealing with medical issues and low self-confidence after 7 shitty semesters in law school. I froze the first two times I took the bar. After I got the monkey off my back in July 2015, I realized that the bar exam can be beaten. Passing wasn't impossible.

My overall score was a 278 (as you know, passing is 266). I technically failed the MEE/MPT portion. I totally fucked up on the second MPT. As for MEE's, I guess you can print out as many old exams as possible and look for patterns in the correct answers. There are certain trigger words that earn you points.

Don't waste your money on Lean Sheets. I bought them. They're utterly useless. I strongly suggest making your own outlines. I provided links to some FREE outlines. I used them and it helped me a lot. Use them as a reference, but still make your own outlines. There are some California distinctions- ignore them:

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

http://barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlines/E ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/images/Civ ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

http://www.barexamdoctor.com/pts/outlin ... utline.pdf

Also, buy some used Barbri books on Amazon. Don't try to memorize the whole thing- just memorize the Conviser.

As for the MBE, simply doing a lot isn't enough. You need a specific technique which will help you attack it.

These books give you instructions on how to break down MBE questions:

https://www.amazon.com/MBE-Bootcamp-Con ... l+bootcamp

https://www.amazon.com/MBE-Bootcamp-Tor ... l+bootcamp

https://www.amazon.com/MBE-Bootcamp-Cri ... l+bootcamp

https://www.amazon.com/MBE-Bootcamp-Con ... l+bootcamp

https://www.amazon.com/MBE-Bootcamp-Pro ... l+bootcamp

https://www.amazon.com/MBE-Bootcamp-Evi ... l+bootcamp

Once you've read these books, practice the techniques on these books:

https://www.amazon.com/Strategies-Tacti ... or+the+mbe

https://www.amazon.com/Kaplan-Practice- ... filter-bar

These questions are the hardest. They're the same level of difficulty as questions you'll encounter on the actual bar:

https://www.amazon.com/Strategies-Tacti ... ms?ie=UTF8

Adaptibar is shit. They use outdated questions that are way too easy. Furthermore, it's online. The actual MBE is done on a scantron. I don't make guarantees. However, I believe that my suggestions will help you pass.

I had a shitty LSAT score and nearly got academically dismissed- and I passed two bar exams. If I can pass a bar exam, any human being can pass a bar exam.


Thanks for the advise! :D

unlvcrjchick
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Re: Desperately need help with Essays

Postby unlvcrjchick » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:50 pm

I also used some of those free bar exam doctor outlines - they were very helpful especially on the MEE subjects when combined with the critical pass app I had for the MBE subjects.

hockeyman969
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Re: Desperately need help with Essays

Postby hockeyman969 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:28 pm

My best advice is to invest the time, look at your weak topics, and practice essays. The first time I was extremely prepared because I went to a law school where the professors tested to the UBE in each topic (this was in NY) because they knew the trend and obviously knew it would go that way.

The second bar I took was FL and that was overwhelming with multiple issue essays for which one could easily write more than a Shakespearean play or great ancient Greek poet. They hide so much in there, I took the time at first with outlines dissecting each essay and writing one in 4 hours, by that I learned where I got hung up on, the traps I fell for, and learned to avoid those.

For the UBE I made Sunday's MPT day and did 2 a week until I was comfortable taking the task. I learned to read the memo and library first helped me to filter through the facts and start constructing my answer on the fly, after that I read and strategized on them up to the bar.

The point is I never did essays cold at the start and warmed myself up to them.

Idk if that helps, but take your time, invest your time and practice no matter who you use.

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Re: Desperately need help with Essays

Postby UBETutoring » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:22 pm

I offer tailor designed markups on MEE essays for $30/essay with no commitment. The feedback is 10x more substantial than prep courses are able to provide. There should be some reviews of my services floating around here. I have extensive experience teaching the test, and tutored for Barbri and several other large prep companies. I had a 35/36 pass rate for the July exam (the one exception was a 4th time retaker).




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