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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)
This gives me hope for CA! My MBEs are usually only above average, with essays and PTs being my strength.
Barbri Sim: 120/200
Barbri Refresher: 68/100
Barbri Sim: 120/200
Barbri Refresher: 68/100
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I wish I could remember the actual numbers, but I think I roughly recall... (if anyone knows how to access Barbri scores after the fact, let me know)
Barbri midterm: 120/ 200
Barbri "refresher": 65/ 100
MBE scaled: 152.3
Barbri midterm: 120/ 200
Barbri "refresher": 65/ 100
MBE scaled: 152.3
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Barbri final: 98/200
MBE (scaled): 139 (July 2018)
Right after the Barbri final, about 3 weeks before the bar, I started going off script and doing all NCBE, Kaplan, and Emmanuel MBEs and started scoring in the low to high 60s. So the Barbri final might not be a good measurement. I wanted to do real MBE questions. I guess 139 MBE is somewhere in that % range. I totally thought I failed. So if you're low on the Barbri final, don't fret!
MBE (scaled): 139 (July 2018)
Right after the Barbri final, about 3 weeks before the bar, I started going off script and doing all NCBE, Kaplan, and Emmanuel MBEs and started scoring in the low to high 60s. So the Barbri final might not be a good measurement. I wanted to do real MBE questions. I guess 139 MBE is somewhere in that % range. I totally thought I failed. So if you're low on the Barbri final, don't fret!
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Barbri diagnostic: 135/200 (if I remember right)
MBE 2018: 169
MBE 2018: 169
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)
Barbri simulated = 114/200
Refresher = 60/100
Actual MBE = 150
Passed UBE with a 288 in July 2018. I checked this forum religiously the past few weeks. Wanted to post this to pay it forward for anyone else waiting to hear back.
Refresher = 60/100
Actual MBE = 150
Passed UBE with a 288 in July 2018. I checked this forum religiously the past few weeks. Wanted to post this to pay it forward for anyone else waiting to hear back.
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)
Thanks! I notice that you got around the median on the essay. How did you feel on the essays and MPT? how close was it to this analysis (from JD Advising). Thanks and congratsSaquan82 wrote:Barbri simulated = 114/200
Refresher = 60/100
Actual MBE = 150
Passed UBE with a 288 in July 2018. I checked this forum religiously the past few weeks. Wanted to post this to pay it forward for anyone else waiting to hear back.
The following MBE subjects were tested on the MEE:
Constitutional Law: whether Congress can commandeer the states, whether Congress can enact legislation under the Commerce Clause when it substantially affects interstate commerce
Contracts: whether UCC or common law governs the contract, contract formation, option contracts under common law, revocation of an offer, counteroffer
Evidence: hearsay (specifically, statement for the purpose of medical diagnosis/treatment, business records exception), relevancy, character evidence, habit evidence
Real Property (perhaps with Secured Transactions): zoning (grandfather clauses, conforming versus nonconforming use), priority regarding a lender who provides a future advance loan and someone that has a mechanic’s lien (Note: Some examinees have stated that a construction mortgage was tested, in which case this would be a Real Property/Secured Transactions question. We do not have enough information to determine if this is accurate as the questions have not been released.)
The following MEE subjects were tested:
Corporations: articles of incorporation, promoter liability, liability when someone attempts to incorporate in bad faith versus good faith
Trusts: duties of the trustee (loyalty, care), anti-lapse statute
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Thanks so very much, it's realy hopfulSaquan82 wrote:Barbri simulated = 114/200
Refresher = 60/100
Actual MBE = 150
Passed UBE with a 288 in July 2018. I checked this forum religiously the past few weeks. Wanted to post this to pay it forward for anyone else waiting to hear back.
We are extremely nervous. WE have to wait untill Nov.
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Kaplan midterm: 129
Kaplan final: 134
Actual MBE: 160
Total UBE: 315
Would totally use Kaplan again. My strategy was focused more on memorizing the outlines than doing questions.
Kaplan final: 134
Actual MBE: 160
Total UBE: 315
Would totally use Kaplan again. My strategy was focused more on memorizing the outlines than doing questions.
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Congrats and thanks for sharingmax_p wrote:Kaplan midterm: 129
Kaplan final: 134
Actual MBE: 160
Total UBE: 315
Would totally use Kaplan again. My strategy was focused more on memorizing the outlines than doing questions.
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Congrats and thanks for sharingSaquan82 wrote:Barbri simulated = 114/200
Refresher = 60/100
Actual MBE = 150
Passed UBE with a 288 in July 2018. I checked this forum religiously the past few weeks. Wanted to post this to pay it forward for anyone else waiting to hear back.
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Can anyone speak to how they did on the MEE's compared to how many of the issues they spoke on?
I'm looking at this: https://seperac.com/analysis.php
Honestly, I'd say I only wrote about 60-70% of those issues. Missed all the promoter liability stuff, and more...
I'm looking at this: https://seperac.com/analysis.php
Honestly, I'd say I only wrote about 60-70% of those issues. Missed all the promoter liability stuff, and more...
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rustyburger2 wrote:Can anyone speak to how they did on the MEE's compared to how many of the issues they spoke on?
I'm looking at this: https://seperac.com/analysis.php
Honestly, I'd say I only wrote about 60-70% of those issues. Missed all the promoter liability stuff, and more...
I just read the official NCBE analysis “promoter liability does not apply”. Since promoter liability only comes into effect if the promoter knew the corporation was not formed yet. In the fact pattern she thought she was incorporated
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I mean, that question was all around a shitshow for me. I thought it was a corporations-partnership hybrid, and argued that no corporation was formed but they would be considered a general partnership and thus still liable lolCop2lawyerNYC wrote:rustyburger2 wrote:Can anyone speak to how they did on the MEE's compared to how many of the issues they spoke on?
I'm looking at this: https://seperac.com/analysis.php
Honestly, I'd say I only wrote about 60-70% of those issues. Missed all the promoter liability stuff, and more...
I just read the official NCBE analysis “promoter liability does not apply”. Since promoter liability only comes into effect if the promoter knew the corporation was not formed yet. In the fact pattern she thought she was incorporated
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That’s actually in the NCBE analsis. I think you nailed it.rustyburger2 wrote:I mean, that question was all around a shitshow for me. I thought it was a corporations-partnership hybrid, and argued that no corporation was formed but they would be considered a general partnership and thus still liable lolCop2lawyerNYC wrote:rustyburger2 wrote:Can anyone speak to how they did on the MEE's compared to how many of the issues they spoke on?
I'm looking at this: https://seperac.com/analysis.php
Honestly, I'd say I only wrote about 60-70% of those issues. Missed all the promoter liability stuff, and more...
I just read the official NCBE analysis “promoter liability does not apply”. Since promoter liability only comes into effect if the promoter knew the corporation was not formed yet. In the fact pattern she thought she was incorporated
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Oh wow for real? I'd ask for a link, but to be honest I don't even want to check for myself. I'll take that glimmer of hope and run with it. Thanks man!Cop2lawyerNYC wrote:That’s actually in the NCBE analsis. I think you nailed it.rustyburger2 wrote:I mean, that question was all around a shitshow for me. I thought it was a corporations-partnership hybrid, and argued that no corporation was formed but they would be considered a general partnership and thus still liable lolCop2lawyerNYC wrote:rustyburger2 wrote:Can anyone speak to how they did on the MEE's compared to how many of the issues they spoke on?
I'm looking at this: https://seperac.com/analysis.php
Honestly, I'd say I only wrote about 60-70% of those issues. Missed all the promoter liability stuff, and more...
I just read the official NCBE analysis “promoter liability does not apply”. Since promoter liability only comes into effect if the promoter knew the corporation was not formed yet. In the fact pattern she thought she was incorporated
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Oh okay! Maybe I should take the plunge and read too. That's exactly my analysis after starting with promoter's liability...Cop2lawyerNYC wrote:That’s actually in the NCBE analsis. I think you nailed it.rustyburger2 wrote:I mean, that question was all around a shitshow for me. I thought it was a corporations-partnership hybrid, and argued that no corporation was formed but they would be considered a general partnership and thus still liable lolCop2lawyerNYC wrote:rustyburger2 wrote:Can anyone speak to how they did on the MEE's compared to how many of the issues they spoke on?
I'm looking at this: https://seperac.com/analysis.php
Honestly, I'd say I only wrote about 60-70% of those issues. Missed all the promoter liability stuff, and more...
I just read the official NCBE analysis “promoter liability does not apply”. Since promoter liability only comes into effect if the promoter knew the corporation was not formed yet. In the fact pattern she thought she was incorporated
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)
Can someone post a link to the analysis?
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http://store.ncbex.org/july-2018-mee-qu ... -download/sg1226 wrote:Can someone post a link to the analysis?
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Lawworld19 wrote:Any themis takers on here?
How did your themis practice tests go compared to the real deal?
Themis first practice test was a 110 if I remember correctly. Final test was a 60/100 flat.
Actual MBE score was a 138.5. Passed bar with a 286 UBE score
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I really appreciated this thread while waiting for results, so I figured I would provide my own now:
Barbri midterm/full-length test in early July: 156/200
PMBR full-length test: 155/200
Barbri final refresher: 84/100
MBE score: 170.6
I didn't think I would get the same "boost" that Barbri promised after the practice test since I was in good shape then, but I still did!
Barbri midterm/full-length test in early July: 156/200
PMBR full-length test: 155/200
Barbri final refresher: 84/100
MBE score: 170.6
I didn't think I would get the same "boost" that Barbri promised after the practice test since I was in good shape then, but I still did!
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Wow, that is very consistent. With that score you won't have any trouble passing the Ca bar. I suggest you try it asap just to avoind wasting such a high score which even in California is auto-pass (as long as you don't completely bomb the essays).MAwannabeCAatty wrote:I really appreciated this thread while waiting for results, so I figured I would provide my own now:
Barbri midterm/full-length test in early July: 156/200
PMBR full-length test: 155/200
Barbri final refresher: 84/100
MBE score: 170.6
I didn't think I would get the same "boost" that Barbri promised after the practice test since I was in good shape then, but I still did!
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)
Simulated: 116
Overall Average on Practice tests: 54%
Themis Final: 54%
Actual MBE: 147
Essays: 161
UBE score: 308
I wanted to post my practice scores to give people hope. My overall average on practice questions was a 54%. My individual score for some subjects were at 40%. I was scoring between 65-70 % on mixed sets by the end, but I never got higher than a 70% mixed sets. My essays were always 3s and 4s and I only wrote out the graded essays and barely did practice essays. My point is I passed the bar exam with plenty of room to spare because I didn't give up and kept studying. I used critical pass and studied each answer and figured out why I got it wrong. My friend also used Themis and had similar practice scores and passed by a long shot. DO NOT LOSE HOPE.
Overall Average on Practice tests: 54%
Themis Final: 54%
Actual MBE: 147
Essays: 161
UBE score: 308
I wanted to post my practice scores to give people hope. My overall average on practice questions was a 54%. My individual score for some subjects were at 40%. I was scoring between 65-70 % on mixed sets by the end, but I never got higher than a 70% mixed sets. My essays were always 3s and 4s and I only wrote out the graded essays and barely did practice essays. My point is I passed the bar exam with plenty of room to spare because I didn't give up and kept studying. I used critical pass and studied each answer and figured out why I got it wrong. My friend also used Themis and had similar practice scores and passed by a long shot. DO NOT LOSE HOPE.
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This is soooo inspiring, and gives hope, thank you so much!!
Lawbrowsor25 wrote:Simulated: 116
Overall Average on Practice tests: 54%
Themis Final: 54%
Actual MBE: 147
Essays: 161
UBE score: 308
I wanted to post my practice scores to give people hope. My overall average on practice questions was a 54%. My individual score for some subjects were at 40%. I was scoring between 65-70 % on mixed sets by the end, but I never got higher than a 70% mixed sets. My essays were always 3s and 4s and I only wrote out the graded essays and barely did practice essays. My point is I passed the bar exam with plenty of room to spare because I didn't give up and kept studying. I used critical pass and studied each answer and figured out why I got it wrong. My friend also used Themis and had similar practice scores and passed by a long shot. DO NOT LOSE HOPE.
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Wow! Impressive! Many congratulations!MAwannabeCAatty wrote:I really appreciated this thread while waiting for results, so I figured I would provide my own now:
Barbri midterm/full-length test in early July: 156/200
PMBR full-length test: 155/200
Barbri final refresher: 84/100
MBE score: 170.6
I didn't think I would get the same "boost" that Barbri promised after the practice test since I was in good shape then, but I still did!
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Thank you! If it helps anyone, I did my full Barbri program and one of those three-day PMBR courses. The PMBR course came with hundreds of additional questions, so I did 5/subject from that book every morning before starting my regular Barbri program for the day. I also really paid attention to questions I got wrong and read those explanations (I tried the writing the rule out for every wrong question thing, but didn't really keep up with it). And this wasn't specifically for multiple choice, but the best thing I did was reviewing the Critical Pass flashcards with a few friends every evening.TheJuryMustDie wrote:Wow! Impressive! Many congratulations!MAwannabeCAatty wrote:I really appreciated this thread while waiting for results, so I figured I would provide my own now:
Barbri midterm/full-length test in early July: 156/200
PMBR full-length test: 155/200
Barbri final refresher: 84/100
MBE score: 170.6
I didn't think I would get the same "boost" that Barbri promised after the practice test since I was in good shape then, but I still did!
I found that the real MBE felt pretty similar, difficulty-wise, to the practice tests I had done. And for those who aren't sure if it's good or bad that they finished early, I finished both sessions early, the afternoon session by at least half an hour.
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