July 2017 Bar Exam Results

[pogwog]

Mississippi results were released at 5pm ct. My quick and unofficial analysis shows that 52% passed.

[dhop08]

Passed in Mississippi on my second try! Thank you Lord!!!!! Been reading this forum for the past 9-10 months on this journey to pass the bar. Thank you all!

Tips to everyone else: Just put in the work(Studying 6-8 a day and doing 50 questions a day) and keep the faith! Also, fast forward the videos unless its speaking on subject you really don't understand.

[cricketlove00]

Mississippi results were released at 5pm ct. My quick and unofficial analysis shows that 52% passed.

Is Mississippi usually that low?

Congrats to everyone who has passed.

[anabasis]

Vermont pass rate was 44/71 (62%). Down slightly from last July. It wasn't broken down by first time/repeat.

History as UBE state:
July 2016: 43/65 (66%)
Feb 2017: 21/40 (53%)
July 2017: 44/71 (62%)

[Downstairs_Mixup]

Iowa released- 88% pass rate for first time takers, 82% pass rate overall. 95% pass rate for first time takers from the University of Iowa. 83% pass rate for first time takers from Drake University.

http://www.iowacourts.gov/wfdata/frame9 ... File52.pdf
^statistical breakdown if interested

[hockeyman969]

Did other people get the NY survey email?

I didn't. What does it say?

It links to a survey asking qs like how testtakers studied, what their background is, etc. The email stated that the survey was being issued to all testtakers, but I guess they're sending them in waves, which I hope means nothing other than that they're sending them in waves.

That is absolutely correct. I got the survey emails the same day as some folks I knew who wound up failing. They do give you a heart attack though. BOLE broke a pattern in OCT when they released late late thurs/early Friday. So don't try and pattern days of the week. Best of luck!!!!

[deceptivelyblonde]

Iowa (82%)
South Dakota (Unpublished)
Indiana (64%)
Montana (Unpublished)
Mississippi (55.8%)
Vermont (62%)

[dans1006]

Some of these bumps in last practice to actual MBE are incredibly high.

I think we're looking at generous bump in the scale.

[codyal90]

Where are you seeing the bump in the practice MBE vs actual statistics?

[Pass302]

Florida Released! 9:16am

[dans1006]

Where are you seeing the bump in the practice MBE vs actual statistics?

No official stats. I'm just looking at other threads and seeing what people have posted.

Here is one example:

viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278987&start=100

People are reporting what they got on their final practice MBE and what they actually scored and there seems to be a LARGE bump in many cases.

This is wholly unscientific and could be total bunk ... but it gives me hope. My last practice was a 121 and I need a 132. There are people reporting the following:

155 to 176
115 to 154.7
121 to 160
123 to 158
135 to 166.9
124 to 155

Those are all Barbri Sim/Actual comparisions.

To me, that means that either Barbri's sim was significantly harder than the real MBE, there was a generous bump when scores were scaled, or both.

Being that soooooo many people, including Barbri folks, were talking about the actual MBE being way harder, I"m leaning toward the bump being generous. This may be bias though, because I really really want that to be the case.

The MBE was slaughtering people on the February test, which was the first time they changed the format from 190/10 to 175/25. The average MBE score dropped to the lowest on record. I'm wondering if this isn't some course correction on the part of the NCBE.

We'll never know. This all may just be self serving wish-casting on my part. I'll know something in a few days.

Further info:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

[cnk1220]

Where are you seeing the bump in the practice MBE vs actual statistics?

No official stats. I'm just looking at other threads and seeing what people have posted.

Here is one example:

viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278987&start=100

People are reporting what they got on their final practice MBE and what they actually scored and there seems to be a LARGE bump in many cases.

This is wholly unscientific and could be total bunk ... but it gives me hope. My last practice was a 121 and I need a 132. There are people reporting the following:

155 to 176
115 to 154.7
121 to 160
123 to 158
135 to 166.9
124 to 155

Those are all Barbri Sim/Actual comparisions.

To me, that means that either Barbri's sim was significantly harder than the real MBE, there was a generous bump when scores were scaled, or both.

Being that soooooo many people, including Barbri folks, were talking about the actual MBE being way harder, I"m leaning toward the bump being generous. This may be bias though, because I really really want that to be the case.

The MBE was slaughtering people on the February test, which was the first time they changed the format from 190/10 to 175/25. The average MBE score dropped to the lowest on record. I'm wondering if this isn't some course correction on the part of the NCBE.

We'll never know. This all may just be self serving wish-casting on my part. I'll know something in a few days.

Further info:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

I think the bump is from scaling & a little more practice in the few weeks from when you take the simulated to the actual exam. For comparison- I took the Feb. 2017 exam (first time with the NCBE change to 175). I scored a 133 raw on barbri's simulated, my scaled actual mbe was a 150.

[NoDayButToday]

I think Maine came out today. A Maine-based friend just posted a "First Name, Last Name, Esq." type Facebook status update.

[NoDayButToday]

Alabama is out.

[dans1006]

Kentucky is slotted for next Friday but I'm sitting here trying to be hopeful.

Does anyone know if Kentucky ever posts early or if they're one of the states that religiously sticks to the announced release date?

[deuceindc]

Per an email from the State Board of Bar Examiners, Massachusetts results will be emailed by COB on Thursday, October 5.

[PanickingBarTaker]

For people waiting on NY- NY doesn't give out a set date, it's a surprise! But it's usually end of October around midnight and you may get several BOLE surveys during that week/the week before which will give you a heart attack when you see an email from BOLE.

FYI- the number of survey emails you get has nothing to do with whether you passed/failed. Just going to put that out there now because there will be someone who reads into this in a few months.

Quick follow-up Q: Is getting an email from BOLE -to fill out the admission application- any indication on whether we should expect good news, or dig up our outlines to prepare for a re-take in Feb?

[cnk1220]

For people waiting on NY- NY doesn't give out a set date, it's a surprise! But it's usually end of October around midnight and you may get several BOLE surveys during that week/the week before which will give you a heart attack when you see an email from BOLE.

FYI- the number of survey emails you get has nothing to do with whether you passed/failed. Just going to put that out there now because there will be someone who reads into this in a few months.

Quick follow-up Q: Is getting an email from BOLE -to fill out the admission application- any indication on whether we should expect good news, or dig up our outlines to prepare for a re-take in Feb?

I got that from the 3rd dept like a month before results and passed- but I think they send it out to everyone regardless because you can fill out the app before you get results in some depts (like 3rd) I think.

[PanickingBarTaker]

For people waiting on NY- NY doesn't give out a set date, it's a surprise! But it's usually end of October around midnight and you may get several BOLE surveys during that week/the week before which will give you a heart attack when you see an email from BOLE.

FYI- the number of survey emails you get has nothing to do with whether you passed/failed. Just going to put that out there now because there will be someone who reads into this in a few months.

Quick follow-up Q: Is getting an email from BOLE -to fill out the admission application- any indication on whether we should expect good news, or dig up our outlines to prepare for a re-take in Feb?

I got that from the 3rd dept like a month before results and passed- but I think they send it out to everyone regardless because you can fill out the app before you get results in some depts (like 3rd) I think.

Thank you cnk1220.

I received a letter from the 3rd Department a few weeks ago, asking me to fill out the application and urging me to notify them if my address changes before October 15th 2017 - if that means anything

Hoping that it is an indication of good news .. if anyone thinks otherwise .. please do share!

[Anonymous Bar]

CO emailed us yesterday morning that our results were posted online (2 weeks ahead of the scheduled day, 10/5). When we checked our accounts, there was nothing. Two hours later, CO informs us that they sent the email by mistake and that we won't get results until 10/5. If that's not NIED, I don't know what is.

[dans1006]

CO emailed us yesterday morning that our results were posted online (2 weeks ahead of the scheduled day, 10/5). When we checked our accounts, there was nothing. Two hours later, CO informs us that they sent the email by mistake and that we won't get results until 10/5. If that's not NIED, I don't know what is.

Monsters.

They are monsters.

[TXBar2017]

CO emailed us yesterday morning that our results were posted online (2 weeks ahead of the scheduled day, 10/5). When we checked our accounts, there was nothing. Two hours later, CO informs us that they sent the email by mistake and that we won't get results until 10/5. If that's not NIED, I don't know what is.

Holy shit I would be so mad.

[cron1834]

Oregon is out. Names published on the site. That's so weird to me.

ETA: July 2016: 58%... July 2017: 79%.

[maxmartin]

Oregon is out. Names published on the site. That's so weird to me.

ETA: July 2016: 58%... July 2017: 79%.

Oregon examiners always grade essays very generously. July is the first time since Oregon has adopted UBE. I am not surprised by the pass rate at all. This also means the high cut score (274) does not really mean anything, if the graders give points to your essay more easily than other states. I think Oregon bar proposed and set it at 280, then the supreme court mandated it to 274.

[Luchi91]

I believe IL results will be out a week today, 9/29