July 2017 Bar Exam Results

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby pogwog » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:45 pm

Mississippi results were released at 5pm ct. My quick and unofficial analysis shows that 52% passed.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby dhop08 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:33 pm

Passed in Mississippi on my second try! Thank you Lord!!!!! Been reading this forum for the past 9-10 months on this journey to pass the bar. Thank you all!

Tips to everyone else: Just put in the work(Studying 6-8 a day and doing 50 questions a day) and keep the faith! Also, fast forward the videos unless its speaking on subject you really don't understand.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby cricketlove00 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:02 pm

pogwog wrote:Mississippi results were released at 5pm ct. My quick and unofficial analysis shows that 52% passed.


Is Mississippi usually that low?

Congrats to everyone who has passed.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby anabasis » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:47 pm

Vermont pass rate was 44/71 (62%). Down slightly from last July. It wasn't broken down by first time/repeat.

History as UBE state:
July 2016: 43/65 (66%)
Feb 2017: 21/40 (53%)
July 2017: 44/71 (62%)

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby Downstairs_Mixup » Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:01 pm

Iowa released- 88% pass rate for first time takers, 82% pass rate overall. 95% pass rate for first time takers from the University of Iowa. 83% pass rate for first time takers from Drake University.

http://www.iowacourts.gov/wfdata/frame9 ... File52.pdf
^statistical breakdown if interested

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby hockeyman969 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:06 pm

tyrant_flycatcher wrote:
Knickerblocker wrote:
tyrant_flycatcher wrote:Did other people get the NY survey email?


I didn't. What does it say?


It links to a survey asking qs like how testtakers studied, what their background is, etc. The email stated that the survey was being issued to all testtakers, but I guess they're sending them in waves, which I hope means nothing other than that they're sending them in waves.


That is absolutely correct. I got the survey emails the same day as some folks I knew who wound up failing. They do give you a heart attack though. BOLE broke a pattern in OCT when they released late late thurs/early Friday. So don't try and pattern days of the week. Best of luck!!!!

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby deceptivelyblonde » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:30 pm

Iowa (82%)
South Dakota (Unpublished)
Indiana (64%)
Montana (Unpublished)
Mississippi (55.8%)
Vermont (62%)

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby dans1006 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:04 am

Some of these bumps in last practice to actual MBE are incredibly high.

I think we're looking at generous bump in the scale.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby codyal90 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:56 am

Where are you seeing the bump in the practice MBE vs actual statistics?

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby Pass302 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:06 am

Florida Released! 9:16am

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby dans1006 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:33 am

codyal90 wrote:Where are you seeing the bump in the practice MBE vs actual statistics?



No official stats. I'm just looking at other threads and seeing what people have posted.

Here is one example:

viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278987&start=100

People are reporting what they got on their final practice MBE and what they actually scored and there seems to be a LARGE bump in many cases.

This is wholly unscientific and could be total bunk ... but it gives me hope. My last practice was a 121 and I need a 132. There are people reporting the following:

155 to 176
115 to 154.7
121 to 160
123 to 158
135 to 166.9
124 to 155

Those are all Barbri Sim/Actual comparisions.

To me, that means that either Barbri's sim was significantly harder than the real MBE, there was a generous bump when scores were scaled, or both.

Being that soooooo many people, including Barbri folks, were talking about the actual MBE being way harder, I"m leaning toward the bump being generous. This may be bias though, because I really really want that to be the case.

The MBE was slaughtering people on the February test, which was the first time they changed the format from 190/10 to 175/25. The average MBE score dropped to the lowest on record. I'm wondering if this isn't some course correction on the part of the NCBE.

We'll never know. This all may just be self serving wish-casting on my part. I'll know something in a few days.

Further info:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby cnk1220 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:49 pm

dans1006 wrote:
codyal90 wrote:Where are you seeing the bump in the practice MBE vs actual statistics?



No official stats. I'm just looking at other threads and seeing what people have posted.

Here is one example:

viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278987&start=100

People are reporting what they got on their final practice MBE and what they actually scored and there seems to be a LARGE bump in many cases.

This is wholly unscientific and could be total bunk ... but it gives me hope. My last practice was a 121 and I need a 132. There are people reporting the following:

155 to 176
115 to 154.7
121 to 160
123 to 158
135 to 166.9
124 to 155

Those are all Barbri Sim/Actual comparisions.

To me, that means that either Barbri's sim was significantly harder than the real MBE, there was a generous bump when scores were scaled, or both.

Being that soooooo many people, including Barbri folks, were talking about the actual MBE being way harder, I"m leaning toward the bump being generous. This may be bias though, because I really really want that to be the case.

The MBE was slaughtering people on the February test, which was the first time they changed the format from 190/10 to 175/25. The average MBE score dropped to the lowest on record. I'm wondering if this isn't some course correction on the part of the NCBE.

We'll never know. This all may just be self serving wish-casting on my part. I'll know something in a few days.

Further info:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0


I think the bump is from scaling & a little more practice in the few weeks from when you take the simulated to the actual exam. For comparison- I took the Feb. 2017 exam (first time with the NCBE change to 175). I scored a 133 raw on barbri's simulated, my scaled actual mbe was a 150.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby NoDayButToday » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:56 pm

I think Maine came out today. A Maine-based friend just posted a "First Name, Last Name, Esq." type Facebook status update.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby NoDayButToday » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:43 am

Alabama is out.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby dans1006 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:53 am

Kentucky is slotted for next Friday but I'm sitting here trying to be hopeful.

Does anyone know if Kentucky ever posts early or if they're one of the states that religiously sticks to the announced release date?

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby deuceindc » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:24 am

Per an email from the State Board of Bar Examiners, Massachusetts results will be emailed by COB on Thursday, October 5.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby PanickingBarTaker » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:27 am

cnk1220 wrote:For people waiting on NY- NY doesn't give out a set date, it's a surprise! But it's usually end of October around midnight and you may get several BOLE surveys during that week/the week before which will give you a heart attack when you see an email from BOLE.

FYI- the number of survey emails you get has nothing to do with whether you passed/failed. Just going to put that out there now because there will be someone who reads into this in a few months.



Quick follow-up Q: Is getting an email from BOLE -to fill out the admission application- any indication on whether we should expect good news, or dig up our outlines to prepare for a re-take in Feb?

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby cnk1220 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:41 am

PanickingBarTaker wrote:
cnk1220 wrote:For people waiting on NY- NY doesn't give out a set date, it's a surprise! But it's usually end of October around midnight and you may get several BOLE surveys during that week/the week before which will give you a heart attack when you see an email from BOLE.

FYI- the number of survey emails you get has nothing to do with whether you passed/failed. Just going to put that out there now because there will be someone who reads into this in a few months.



Quick follow-up Q: Is getting an email from BOLE -to fill out the admission application- any indication on whether we should expect good news, or dig up our outlines to prepare for a re-take in Feb?



I got that from the 3rd dept like a month before results and passed- but I think they send it out to everyone regardless because you can fill out the app before you get results in some depts (like 3rd) I think.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby PanickingBarTaker » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:57 am

cnk1220 wrote:
PanickingBarTaker wrote:
cnk1220 wrote:For people waiting on NY- NY doesn't give out a set date, it's a surprise! But it's usually end of October around midnight and you may get several BOLE surveys during that week/the week before which will give you a heart attack when you see an email from BOLE.

FYI- the number of survey emails you get has nothing to do with whether you passed/failed. Just going to put that out there now because there will be someone who reads into this in a few months.



Quick follow-up Q: Is getting an email from BOLE -to fill out the admission application- any indication on whether we should expect good news, or dig up our outlines to prepare for a re-take in Feb?



I got that from the 3rd dept like a month before results and passed- but I think they send it out to everyone regardless because you can fill out the app before you get results in some depts (like 3rd) I think.



Thank you cnk1220.

I received a letter from the 3rd Department a few weeks ago, asking me to fill out the application and urging me to notify them if my address changes before October 15th 2017 - if that means anything :?

Hoping that it is an indication of good news .. if anyone thinks otherwise .. please do share!

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby Anonymous Bar » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:30 pm

CO emailed us yesterday morning that our results were posted online (2 weeks ahead of the scheduled day, 10/5). When we checked our accounts, there was nothing. Two hours later, CO informs us that they sent the email by mistake and that we won't get results until 10/5. If that's not NIED, I don't know what is. :x :x

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby dans1006 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:33 pm

Anonymous Bar wrote:CO emailed us yesterday morning that our results were posted online (2 weeks ahead of the scheduled day, 10/5). When we checked our accounts, there was nothing. Two hours later, CO informs us that they sent the email by mistake and that we won't get results until 10/5. If that's not NIED, I don't know what is. :x :x


Monsters.

They are monsters.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby TXBar2017 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:47 pm

Anonymous Bar wrote:CO emailed us yesterday morning that our results were posted online (2 weeks ahead of the scheduled day, 10/5). When we checked our accounts, there was nothing. Two hours later, CO informs us that they sent the email by mistake and that we won't get results until 10/5. If that's not NIED, I don't know what is. :x :x


Holy shit I would be so mad.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby cron1834 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:04 pm

Oregon is out. Names published on the site. That's so weird to me.

ETA: July 2016: 58%... July 2017: 79%.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby maxmartin » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:17 pm

cron1834 wrote:Oregon is out. Names published on the site. That's so weird to me.

ETA: July 2016: 58%... July 2017: 79%.


Oregon examiners always grade essays very generously. July is the first time since Oregon has adopted UBE. I am not surprised by the pass rate at all. This also means the high cut score (274) does not really mean anything, if the graders give points to your essay more easily than other states. I think Oregon bar proposed and set it at 280, then the supreme court mandated it to 274.

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Re: July 2017 Bar Exam Results

Postby Luchi91 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:34 pm

I believe IL results will be out a week today, 9/29




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