Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

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Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby ConfusedL1 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:56 pm

I wrote out one for Barbri because they would grade it, but it seems like a waste of time to write out anything else.

Is the better call at this point to just make sure I know the types of MPT issues and have a set strategy for reviewing the material quickly?

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby cnk1220 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:00 pm

ConfusedL1 wrote:I wrote out one for Barbri because they would grade it, but it seems like a waste of time to write out anything else.

Is the better call at this point to just make sure I know the types of MPT issues and have a set strategy for reviewing the material quickly?



Don't bother practicing to write them out as i'm sure you know it's closed universe and you can't factually prepare- just go over the different types of MPTs so you aren't surprised on the exam and know the proper format to use for the persuasive brief, objective memo, client and demand letters, etc.

You get points for proper formatting and having an intro (to/from/re/date) and heading (case name/court for example) if applicable, so make sure you know which intro/heading to use for which- this will save you time and prevent panic mode on the exam, good luck!

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby Elle.Woods » Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:41 am

Personally, I found it helpful to write out the MPT (3 so far) under timed conditions instead of just reviewing or outlining - if you have time. I've had time management issues on other tests before (law school and LSAT), and it helped me nail down a strategy of how to digest/write out the law and the facts with time to spare.

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby happyhour1122 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:27 pm

oh yes- do practice maybe 2 or 3 so you know how to organize the formats in your sleep.

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby ndp1234 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:53 pm

I also found it helpful to write out the MPTs for timing purposes. IMO, not all MPTs asking for the same type document are the same. The materials could be longer or shorter and affects your timing, or asking for lengthier analyses (i.e analyzing 9 factors instead of 3); some topics are completely unfamiliar so much so that it takes longer to digest the info (even though it's close universe).

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby Tiredbuthappyitsover » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:58 pm

I'd say practice one or two, max, to make sure you can answer the question within your time constraints. But after that, just make sure you know to format and organize your answers for different things they might ask you to do (memo, brief, appeal, motion, etc.).

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby TheoO » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:16 pm

Write a couple and then just look at the model answer for the different formats. I think this is the most important part: if you know how to organize it properly.

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby soonerfreak » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:25 pm

I've only written out three and I'm feeling pretty good. The first one kaplan had us write and the two from the practice MEE. I felt solid about all three so I'm gonna focus on other issues.

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs / MEE

Postby GoAble » Wed May 16, 2018 7:22 pm

I attempted answer last 10 years MPT & MEE. Then compare them to the real answers. My tutor said I should at least able to pass the Bar exam. But, in the exam hall, I didn't bad in MPT, although I think I did ok with MEE. So... I fail.
I am just so tired of keep trying, I want to give up. But, I feel I have not accomplish anything in life. I am very very sad and lost.

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby hanner22 » Wed May 16, 2018 10:04 pm

ConfusedL1 wrote:I wrote out one for Barbri because they would grade it, but it seems like a waste of time to write out anything else.

Is the better call at this point to just make sure I know the types of MPT issues and have a set strategy for reviewing the material quickly?



Yes, for timing purposes it’s helpful. I only did two or three though.

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby LockBox » Thu May 17, 2018 1:39 pm

Depends. You need to find a system that works. I had experience with extensive memo writing at work and didn't need to write out any MPTs. ymmv.

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby SFSpartan » Thu May 17, 2018 2:09 pm

Depends on how you learn. I got more out of outlining PTs than actually writing them out, so I did exclusively that. However, after the Bar exam, I felt like I should have written out at least 2 PTs to solve some timing issues I had on the barzam, so would recommend doing at least 1 more full one (preferably close to the date of the exam)

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby unitball » Mon May 21, 2018 9:35 am

I definitely needed to write them out because one of my biggest problems was time management. Merely outlining essays and PT's only helped me organize my thoughts but didn't actually help me get better at getting everything down on the page within the time limits.

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Re: Is it worth it to write out MPTs?

Postby Neilt001 » Mon May 21, 2018 3:05 pm

unitball wrote:I definitely needed to write them out because one of my biggest problems was time management. Merely outlining essays and PT's only helped me organize my thoughts but didn't actually help me get better at getting everything down on the page within the time limits.


Agreed. I maybe only wrote out a quarter of the MPTs that were assigned to me, or less. But definitely write out a solid few to get a feel for timing, practicing headings, tone, synthesizing all the material quickly, and just gaining some comfort/confidence with your own personal approach (ie do you read the facts first or the law, etc). You don't want to get an MPT on test day and realize you're not comfortable with it. And doing well on the MPTs is a great way to increase your score and overcome a weaker MBE. So if you can put in that bit of work then you'll be good. Worked for me!



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