California Bar Moral Character Application

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California Bar Moral Character Application

Postby cutipiejin » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:46 pm

Hi! I had mine submitted on April 5 (thought I wouldn't pass the feb bar exam). I checked the status website and it says paper application received and under review. I haven't received any update on the status, but I found out by calling the office that my case was assigned to an analyst. My references were not all contacted, but those who were contacted already sent in their responses in late April. I have no red flags. I went through another state's C&F without any issue 2 years ago.

I was told it would take a minimum of 6 months to get cleared. Is this normal? I thought it was minimum 90 days, not 6 months. I have a job offer that hinges on me passing the application by July 3. I don't think it is going to happen.... Can you share your experience on how much time Moral Character application takes to complete? Anybody who submitted their Moral Character application after Feb bar exam but got cleared already? Is there anything I can do? Please help....I feel so in despair... :(

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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application

Postby SmokeytheBear » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:52 pm

cutipiejin wrote:Hi! I had mine submitted on April 5 (thought I wouldn't pass the feb bar exam). I checked the status website and it says paper application received and under review. I haven't received any update on the status, but I found out by calling the office that my case was assigned to an analyst. My references were not all contacted, but those who were contacted already sent in their responses in late April. I have no red flags. I went through another state's C&F without any issue 2 years ago.

I was told it would take a minimum of 6 months to get cleared. Is this normal? I thought it was minimum 90 days, not 6 months. I have a job offer that hinges on me passing the application by July 3. I don't think it is going to happen.... Can you share your experience on how much time Moral Character application takes to complete? Anybody who submitted their Moral Character application after Feb bar exam but got cleared already? Is there anything I can do? Please help....I feel so in despair... :(


I have friends who cleared in 30 days.

It took mine several months to clear because I wasn't specific enough about different BS jobs I had while in college at my college years prior. They bounced it back asking for which departments etc. Then it became clear that my application was just put in a different stack that takes longer to process.

A friend at my firm had a his application similarly placed in the slow stack and he somehow got the name of the analyst who had his file. He just followed up with the analyst weekly until it was cleared.

If you can somehow find who who your analyst is, that might help.

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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application

Postby cutipiejin » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:10 pm

SmokeytheBear wrote:
cutipiejin wrote:Hi! I had mine submitted on April 5 (thought I wouldn't pass the feb bar exam). I checked the status website and it says paper application received and under review. I haven't received any update on the status, but I found out by calling the office that my case was assigned to an analyst. My references were not all contacted, but those who were contacted already sent in their responses in late April. I have no red flags. I went through another state's C&F without any issue 2 years ago.

I was told it would take a minimum of 6 months to get cleared. Is this normal? I thought it was minimum 90 days, not 6 months. I have a job offer that hinges on me passing the application by July 3. I don't think it is going to happen.... Can you share your experience on how much time Moral Character application takes to complete? Anybody who submitted their Moral Character application after Feb bar exam but got cleared already? Is there anything I can do? Please help....I feel so in despair... :(


I have friends who cleared in 30 days.

It took mine several months to clear because I wasn't specific enough about different BS jobs I had while in college at my college years prior. They bounced it back asking for which departments etc. Then it became clear that my application was just put in a different stack that takes longer to process.

A friend at my firm had a his application similarly placed in the slow stack and he somehow got the name of the analyst who had his file. He just followed up with the analyst weekly until it was cleared.

If you can somehow find who who your analyst is, that might help.


30 days is amazing. I hope my application was in that kind of stack....

I know whom my analyst is, and called, but basically she said I have to sit tight and wait. I am afraid to call her again because she did not sound too excited when I asked if there was anything I can help. I am debating whether to give her a call, but I really don't have any good reason to call her and afraid she will see the call as "pushing" and put my file to the bottom of her stack. Argh....

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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application

Postby 9xSound » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:34 pm

I submitted my moral character app in late September or early October during my last year of law school. I didn't receive my approval until late the following March — five full months. Nobody contacted me for any clarifications, and I didn't needle anybody about status. From everything I've read and heard, prodding the analyst with your application doesn't work anyway, and it might even rotate your app to the bottom of the stack.

The only red flag on my app was the non-judicial punishment I received once in the Marines, which was a trumped up charge by a second lieutenant who absolutely hated me personally and wanted to damage my rep any way he could. My infraction could not have been more petty (I didn't dump my trash). But I had fun with it on my moral character app. After writing out the incident in detail, I wrote, "Even today, all these years later, this still burns me up. The only reason he put that blemish on my service record was because he could."

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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application

Postby cutipiejin » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:02 pm

OP here.

My moral character application is still under review. I filed it on April 5 and received an email on July 14 confirming the initial processing. My "pre-processor" (a person who reviews my file before it is assigned to an analyst) has not even reviewed my file. She kept saying it takes a minimum of 180 days so I should just sit tight and wait. Mine does not have any red flag or anything. I passed Character Fitness in another state in 2015 without any issue. She says there is no missing form or anything.

It seems so ridiculous to me that a "pre" processor has not even taken a look at my file even though it was filed more than 90 days ago. It is so frustrating. More so because there is nothing I can do.

My job offer expired because my Moral Character was not completed in early July. :cry:

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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application

Postby CAnow » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:56 pm

The moral character application process is outside your control (and the employer should know that). If the employer is judging your performance based on what others are doing, then that's probably not the type of place you would want to work for anyway.

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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application

Postby SmokeytheBear » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:00 pm

CAnow wrote:The moral character application process is outside your control (and the employer should know that). If the employer is judging your performance based on what others are doing, then that's probably not the type of place you would want to work for anyway.


Agreed. That's just pure horseshit.

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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application

Postby AspiringCALawyer » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:28 am

cutipiejin wrote:Hi! I had mine submitted on April 5 (thought I wouldn't pass the feb bar exam). I checked the status website and it says paper application received and under review. I haven't received any update on the status, but I found out by calling the office that my case was assigned to an analyst. My references were not all contacted, but those who were contacted already sent in their responses in late April. I have no red flags. I went through another state's C&F without any issue 2 years ago.

I was told it would take a minimum of 6 months to get cleared. Is this normal? I thought it was minimum 90 days, not 6 months. I have a job offer that hinges on me passing the application by July 3. I don't think it is going to happen.... Can you share your experience on how much time Moral Character application takes to complete? Anybody who submitted their Moral Character application after Feb bar exam but got cleared already? Is there anything I can do? Please help....I feel so in despair... :(


I submitted my completed application in June 2016 and was approved in January 2017. The only additional request I had received was for a current copy of my credit report. Since it's good for three years, it'll streamline my application for in-house counsel (plan B) once I get a job or it'll streamline my admission once I pass the bar (plan A) (already failed twice).

That's so bizarre that your job would require you to pass character and fitness by a certain date. Although it takes a long time, I view that requirement as a formality. Passing the bar seems like a bigger hurdle. That sucks.

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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application

Postby tilly » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:23 pm

I'm at 5 months and counting. I check online like every day and it just says "under review." So frustrating.

Anyone submit a 2017 Moral Character application who can shed some light on how long it took to approve the application, how long the application has been pending, etc.?
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application

Postby PorscheFanatic » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:34 pm

I submitted my application around March 2017. I was approved sometime that June (so about 3-4 months later).

Unfortunately, I failed the bar, so I still have that hurdle to get over next month.

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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application

Postby tilly » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:59 pm

PorscheFanatic wrote:I submitted my application around March 2017. I was approved sometime that June (so about 3-4 months later).

Unfortunately, I failed the bar, so I still have that hurdle to get over next month.


Oh man, I'm sorry about the exam result :( Good luck on the February exam.

I'm so jealous of the 3-4 month turn around. That is what I was expecting, because my application/background are very straight forward. I was told to expect at least another month before someone LOOKS at my file, at which point they will tell me if they need any additional information. I was also told that the "usual" processing time is "6 to 8 months" - which was the first time I had heard that pushed to 8 months. Either way, it looks like I got slotted into the slow stack - I could cry.

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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application

Postby tilly » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:48 pm

cutipiejin wrote:I have no red flags. I went through another state's C&F without any issue 2 years ago.

I was told it would take a minimum of 6 months to get cleared. Is this normal?


My working theory at this point is that attorneys already licenced in other jurisdictions are slotted into the same stack, and that stack takes longer to process. I was told to expect my file to take the "usual" time of "6 to 8 months" to process. I just about fell over when she said 8 months! I understand that if there are problems with your application, then the process could take much longer than 6 months. But I always thought the "worst case" for a file with no issues to be 6 months.




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