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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:51 pm
by Law4lyf
What should our progress percentage be at if we started on time(may 22)? I starting doing more on the flex study side and I want to make sure that I'm on target.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:37 am
by ernie
Law4lyf wrote:What should our progress percentage be at if we started on time(may 22)? I starting doing more on the flex study side and I want to make sure that I'm on target.

FWIW I've been adhering to the recommended schedule w/ May 22 start and am at 32.3%.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:51 am
by bellalove23
Checking in (late), and studying while working full time (skipped 2 previous exams as I was finishing a dual degree and had just started a new job for the Feb bar study time). I'm sitting New York, but currently live in London, so basically no one understand my pain irl haha.

Dunno about the rest of you, but the fear is starting to set in for real.

All of my friends passed last year and I feel like they've forgotten the anxiety associated so I thought I'd commiserate here :D

Good luck on the milestone exam today, for everyone who is taking it!

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:11 am
by michelle3908
Fireworks2016 wrote:Is there a magic # of MBE questions to hit? I'm at 750, with 75% accuracy so far, feeling much less confident about the essays.


Are these questions all from Themis or are you using adaptibar or other supplements?

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:32 am
by bmmccb223
ernie wrote:
Law4lyf wrote:What should our progress percentage be at if we started on time(may 22)? I starting doing more on the flex study side and I want to make sure that I'm on target.

FWIW I've been adhering to the recommended schedule w/ May 22 start and am at 32.3%.


I started May 23 and am at 31%

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:57 am
by Fireworks2016
michelle3908 wrote:
Fireworks2016 wrote:Is there a magic # of MBE questions to hit? I'm at 750, with 75% accuracy so far, feeling much less confident about the essays.


Are these questions all from Themis or are you using adaptibar or other supplements?


Only Themis so far.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:38 pm
by blaze1306
Mile wide and a inch deep....

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:37 pm
by Samarcan
so nice to move from property to torts....

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:12 pm
by MelaPela
Samarcan wrote:so nice to move from property to torts....


+1 to that. Though Kramer was a more entertaining lecturer than Clark is.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:26 am
by lavarman84
I really like the Themis property professor and am enjoying property (as crazy as that sounds).

MelaPela wrote:
Samarcan wrote:so nice to move from property to torts....


+1 to that. Though Kramer was a more entertaining lecturer than Clark is.


Clark was terrible.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:44 am
by michelle3908
lavarman84 wrote:I really like the Themis property professor and am enjoying property (as crazy as that sounds).

MelaPela wrote:
Samarcan wrote:so nice to move from property to torts....


+1 to that. Though Kramer was a more entertaining lecturer than Clark is.


Clark was terrible.


Kramer was so much better than Clark.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:50 am
by Jon_Snow
Just wanted to chip in and say that if you have a Mac, you can use Calibre (an open source app) to convert the epubs of the outlines into DOCx and edit them on your own.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:17 pm
by Samarcan
michelle3908 wrote:
lavarman84 wrote:I really like the Themis property professor and am enjoying property (as crazy as that sounds).

MelaPela wrote:
Samarcan wrote:so nice to move from property to torts....


+1 to that. Though Kramer was a more entertaining lecturer than Clark is.


Clark was terrible.


Kramer was so much better than Clark.


Kramer was better than Clark but now that I'm done with his lectures and doing the Property practice questions, I'm consistently getting only around 50% or less correct. I know the material in property is hard, but I didn't think it would be THAT hard. Kramer's lectures didn't really help at all with the tough stuff -- mortgages, deeds, foreclosures.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:51 pm
by Slytherpuff
Yeah I agree about Kramer - I liked his lecturing but he really just glossed over the hard stuff and tried to distract us with how sexy! exciting! it was.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:28 pm
by michelle3908
Samarcan wrote:
michelle3908 wrote:
lavarman84 wrote:I really like the Themis property professor and am enjoying property (as crazy as that sounds).

MelaPela wrote:
Samarcan wrote:so nice to move from property to torts....


+1 to that. Though Kramer was a more entertaining lecturer than Clark is.


Clark was terrible.


Kramer was so much better than Clark.


Kramer was better than Clark but now that I'm done with his lectures and doing the Property practice questions, I'm consistently getting only around 50% or less correct. I know the material in property is hard, but I didn't think it would be THAT hard. Kramer's lectures didn't really help at all with the tough stuff -- mortgages, deeds, foreclosures.


I will agree with that based on the content of the MBE practice questions. I'm all over the place with the percent correct on the questions. One set will be 50, next will be 70, next will be 45 percent.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:18 pm
by Tati718
I prefer Kramer AND Clark over Schott. I thought I was done w/ Schott after family law but he does the evidence vids as well :shock: :(

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:18 pm
by foundingfather
Kramer is hilarious

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:22 pm
by J-english
Tati718 wrote:I prefer Kramer AND Clark over Schott. I thought I was done w/ Schott after family law but he does the evidence vids as well :shock: :(


Ugg.... I was so disappointed when I started those videos this morning!!!! My biggest problem with him is that he doesn't really follow the handout so half the time I'm like what just happened.... did you say what goes in this blank or nah?

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:29 pm
by Bluem_11
For classes like Contracts, Property and Civ Pro unless you want the lectures to take you two weeks, there's no way the material can be sufficiently covered, there's so many little rules. You just have to brute force your way through the details after getting the broad strokes.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:30 pm
by SeewhathappensLarry
Tati718 wrote:I prefer Kramer AND Clark over Schott. I thought I was done w/ Schott after family law but he does the evidence vids as well :shock: :(


I got nothing out of the evidence videos. I just don't think it's the best way for me to learn evidence. I'm using my old evidence outline instead. It also didn't help that Schott was way too f'ing friendly when I was watching him hungover

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:04 pm
by Law4lyf
So I just took the Torts Essay...I did not have enough time to get through all the issues, but got through 3 of them. This was because I was following the previous workshops advice by laying out all the factors of negligence the way he did. Did anyone else notice that the sample answer does not do this at all? How much detail are we supposed to throw in this answer?

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:12 pm
by the_pakalypse
Law4lyf wrote:So I just took the Torts Essay...I did not have enough time to get through all the issues, but got through 3 of them. This was because I was following the previous workshops advice by laying out all the factors of negligence the way he did. Did anyone else notice that the sample answer does not do this at all? How much detail are we supposed to throw in this answer?


Yeah, just did the same thing. The inconsistency is baffling.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:30 pm
by Law4lyf
the_pakalypse wrote:
Law4lyf wrote:So I just took the Torts Essay...I did not have enough time to get through all the issues, but got through 3 of them. This was because I was following the previous workshops advice by laying out all the factors of negligence the way he did. Did anyone else notice that the sample answer does not do this at all? How much detail are we supposed to throw in this answer?


Yeah, just did the same thing. The inconsistency is baffling.


I will contact them tomorrow morning and let you guys know what's going on.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:21 am
by DvlDog5150
Here was a fun mind game-

According to the FRE:

Reputation evidence of the victim’s trait for peacefulness is allowed in a homicide case only after the defendant has introduced evidence that the victim was the initial aggressor. Pretty cut and dry right?

Facts followed the rule exactly- Defendant introduced evidence the victim was the initial aggressor. Prosecutor called a neighbor to testify to the peaceful reputation of the victim. Defense objects. Sustain or Overrule objection?

Does this sound like a good answer choice?

For goodness sake! The court should totally overrule right? I mean come on- the rule just told us the Prosecutor can introduce evidence of the victim’s reputation for peacefulness in any homicide case. Right? Right?

Sorry- wrong choice. I know- it totally almost states the rule verbatim....but note that little three letter word..... "any"..... Holy Crap. Stupid MBE.

Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2017

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:02 am
by yeslekkkk
Here's a sort of helpful video for mortgages: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShBjbw4to4Y

They also have some other property concepts going on in other videos. I thought I would just send it along!