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MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:30 pm
by ashleymdbartaker
I was unsuccessful on the bar, due to the MBE. It is very frustrating. I used critical pass flashcards and adaptibar. While this raised my score it was not enough to push my score. My question is do you recommend a tutor for the MBE? For those who did use adaptibar, how did you use it? What study materials/tools do you recommend to raise my MBE score? How did you study for the MBE? Any advice would be appreciated!!

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Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:55 pm
by cnk1220
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 11:21 am
by bandida
ashleymdbartaker wrote:I was unsuccessful on the bar, due to the MBE. It is very frustrating. I used critical pass flashcards and adaptibar. While this raised my score it was not enough to push my score. My question is do you recommend a tutor for the MBE? For those who did use adaptibar, how did you use it? What study materials/tools do you recommend to raise my MBE score? How did you study for the MBE? Any advice would be appreciated!!


I went from 124 to 146 which helped me pass the second time around. I used critical flash, emmanuels, bar max mbe, and the four ope. In total I did about 2000 practice questions. I wrote the rule down for any question I got wrong and I made sure I understood why. I did the same for any question I guessed on.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 12:35 pm
by SilvermanBarPrep
The two most common supplements that students mention to me as helpful are Adaptibar and Zipbar.

Sean (Silverman Bar Prep)
http://www.mbetutorial.blogspot.com

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 10:36 am
by jdk
Two things: memorization and variety.

With regard to memorization: many questions can be "beaten" merely by knowing that one little exception to the exception to the usual rule. Getting those points is just a matter of grinding and mashing those into your brain through daily repetition. I don't really think there's a better (or other) way to do it.

With regard to variety: Although I did very well on the MBE (163), my confidence walking out of the exam was low. I attribute that to having only studied questions from one company (Kaplan). If you do enough practice questions from one company, eventually you'll start to identify patterns and scenarios in the way the questions are written, instead of identifying the underlying substance being tested. What this meant for me - and I imagine the same is true for others who are good standardized test-takers - is that my practice became more about being able to beat the Kaplan writers than about knowing the law. On test day, it meant that I was seeing questions written by other people for the first time, and the variety in question formulation was a shock to my system. Ultimately I had memorized enough to overcome that deficiency, but I wish I had obtained practice materials from multiple sources in order to expose myself to a greater variety.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 10:44 am
by justwanttobealawyer
Bump! Looking for the same advice.

Also, does anyone have the Kaplan PMBR red book?? Any version would be ok.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 11:14 am
by tfer2222
Memorize. Drill questions. Strategies and Tactics.

https://www.amazon.com/Strategies-Tacti ... 1454809922

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 11:43 am
by JDEsq2017
Although I am not a re-taker luckily having passed with a 142 on the MBE in NY I would concur that studying from one source (Kaplan) can be a detriment and I feel that is my only regret during Bar Prep. I got a 130 midterm and 127 Final review, which they state are tough questions I guess. However, during the actual MBE I was shocked by the variety of questions that I saw from topics I did not even study or was made aware of by Kaplan would be tested. I've heard great things about Themis Bar Prep and Adaptibar and suggest you supplement your main course with those so there are no surprises on the exam and begin doubting the past two months you have dedicated to this test.

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Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 11:54 am
by LockBox
ashleymdbartaker wrote:I was unsuccessful on the bar, due to the MBE. It is very frustrating. I used critical pass flashcards and adaptibar. While this raised my score it was not enough to push my score. My question is do you recommend a tutor for the MBE? For those who did use adaptibar, how did you use it? What study materials/tools do you recommend to raise my MBE score? How did you study for the MBE? Any advice would be appreciated!!


This is not informative. How did YOU use adaptibar/critical pass? How many questions did you do? How did you assess your progress?

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 11:55 am
by toomanynamesaretaken
ashleymdbartaker wrote:I was unsuccessful on the bar, due to the MBE. It is very frustrating. I used critical pass flashcards and adaptibar. While this raised my score it was not enough to push my score. My question is do you recommend a tutor for the MBE? For those who did use adaptibar, how did you use it? What study materials/tools do you recommend to raise my MBE score? How did you study for the MBE? Any advice would be appreciated!!


Hi, how do you already know your MBE scores? I took the FEB 2017 DC BAR and I only know my results, but not the score.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:52 pm
by Neve
1) Emanuel's Strategies and Tactics for the MBE - available on Amazon. Fairly cheap book. Has good tips on approaching the MBE and contains lots of practice questions. Wish I used this book more during my bar prep.

2) Adaptibar (http://www.adaptibar.com) - I didn't use this, but wish I had since it has received raving reviews. The only con to Adaptibar is the price.

3) Barmax MBE Questions (https://getbarmax.com/barmax-mbe-questions/ - supposedly "comparable" to Adaptibar). At only $249, it's a good price, but Adaptibar has tracking tools to individualize your MBE study and show your progress in a method that Barmax can't. But Barmax seems to be more economical than Adaptibar. You also need an iOS device to use it. (I have not personally used this product.)

4) Critical Pass (http://criticalpass.refr.cc/8GVXRT9 - referral link contains a discount code for $$$ off) - Great flashcards for the MBE! You can't apply the law to an MBE question, if you don't know the law. I used Critical Pass for my bar study along with the CMR from Barbri and their simulated questions (although the Barbri questions are very different than actual MBE questions). I also used Emanuel's S&T during my study period, but not as much as I should have since it's a great resource.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 4:56 pm
by texas2dclawchick
this was my biggest struggle and I recently passed after failing. I studied fulltime while working and didn't take days off.

my advice? LEARN the material. before, I kinda just passively read. but this time I actually sat down and read barbri CMR (got it off of ebay), and really engaged with the material. then to solidify, I would do the critical pass flashcard at night each day for a week, after reading the outline earlier in the week. then, practice adaptibar. then practice essays. all in that same subject. until I did that I wouldn't move on to another subject - it's like a multi-tiered way of getting the information memorized.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 11:05 pm
by Law&coffee
texas2dclawchick wrote:this was my biggest struggle and I recently passed after failing. I studied fulltime while working and didn't take days off.

my advice? LEARN the material. before, I kinda just passively read. but this time I actually sat down and read barbri CMR (got it off of ebay), and really engaged with the material. then to solidify, I would do the critical pass flashcard at night each day for a week, after reading the outline earlier in the week. then, practice adaptibar. then practice essays. all in that same subject. until I did that I wouldn't move on to another subject - it's like a multi-tiered way of getting the information memorized.


Engaging with the material is key! I used to write out the black letter law from the Barbri essay book after every practice essay I did (Texas bar examiners tend to repeatedly test on certain topics). I also annotated my Critical Pass notecards and CMR.

Although a lot of people don't find the Barbri lectures useful, they're supposed to encourage learning through engagement and repetition. I personally did watch the majority of them, but on a faster speed.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:15 pm
by Neve
I would review the CMR and then a stack or two of Critical Pass flash cards before doing a practice drill of MBE questions on a single subject or mixed subjects. After that, I would review every question in detail even if I got the question right. After doing this every day, you should notice progress. Repetition is key. I didn't use AdaptiBar, but you should put aside 60-90 minutes every day just for that. You won't see progress unless you dedicate time to improving.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:42 am
by Tiredbuthappyitsover
I went from a 126 to a 141 on my retake. The second time around, I supplemented with Adaptibar and Critical Pass (If anyone needs a discount code for either, PM me with your email address and I'll send you the discount email). I also made a switch from Barbri to Reed Bar Review-helped me on my MBE prep significantly. Reed has a 3 day boot camp for the MBE as well...if you have more questions about this, let me know.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:51 pm
by Law&coffee
Tiredbuthappyitsover wrote:I went from a 126 to a 141 on my retake. The second time around, I supplemented with Adaptibar and Critical Pass (If anyone needs a discount code for either, PM me with your email address and I'll send you the discount email). I also made a switch from Barbri to Reed Bar Review-helped me on my MBE prep significantly. Reed has a 3 day boot camp for the MBE as well...if you have more questions about this, let me know.


If I could go back in time, I would supplement with Adaptibar.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:20 pm
by Bimmerfan
tfer2222 wrote:Memorize. Drill questions. Strategies and Tactics.

https://www.amazon.com/Strategies-Tacti ... 1454809922


This.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:49 pm
by Neve
Bimmerfan wrote:
tfer2222 wrote:Memorize. Drill questions. Strategies and Tactics.

https://www.amazon.com/Strategies-Tacti ... 1454809922


This.


Second this. Strategies and Tactics is a great tool!

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:26 pm
by Law&coffee
toomanynamesaretaken wrote:
ashleymdbartaker wrote:I was unsuccessful on the bar, due to the MBE. It is very frustrating. I used critical pass flashcards and adaptibar. While this raised my score it was not enough to push my score. My question is do you recommend a tutor for the MBE? For those who did use adaptibar, how did you use it? What study materials/tools do you recommend to raise my MBE score? How did you study for the MBE? Any advice would be appreciated!!


Hi, how do you already know your MBE scores? I took the FEB 2017 DC BAR and I only know my results, but not the score.


Some states, like Texas, release the exam taker's scaled MBE score in addition to the overall results. It varies by state. I've also heard that if you fail the bar (in Texas) the examiners give you a more detailed analysis (including scaled MBE score and all scores on the essays) of your exam to help you for the retake.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:33 pm
by FinallyPassedTheBar
ashleymdbartaker wrote:I was unsuccessful on the bar, due to the MBE. It is very frustrating. I used critical pass flashcards and adaptibar. While this raised my score it was not enough to push my score. My question is do you recommend a tutor for the MBE? For those who did use adaptibar, how did you use it? What study materials/tools do you recommend to raise my MBE score? How did you study for the MBE? Any advice would be appreciated!!



What was your overall percentage correct on Adaptibar and how many questions did you complete?

Without Adaptibar I got below 125 on the MBE. With Adaptibar I raised my score to 150+ (I believe I got around 160 but CA does not release MBE scores to successful examinees).

I immersed myself in Adaptibar questions, carefully studying the answer explanations for all answer choices. It's important to know why a certain answer choice is correct or incorrect. I complete about 50 questions per day over a roughly 2 month period ending with about 2800 completed questions at 73% correctly answered.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:55 pm
by PorscheFanatic
6TimeFailure wrote:
ashleymdbartaker wrote:I was unsuccessful on the bar, due to the MBE. It is very frustrating. I used critical pass flashcards and adaptibar. While this raised my score it was not enough to push my score. My question is do you recommend a tutor for the MBE? For those who did use adaptibar, how did you use it? What study materials/tools do you recommend to raise my MBE score? How did you study for the MBE? Any advice would be appreciated!!



What was your overall percentage correct on Adaptibar and how many questions did you complete?

Without Adaptibar I got below 125 on the MBE. With Adaptibar I raised my score to 150+ (I believe I got around 160 but CA does not release MBE scores to successful examinees).

I immersed myself in Adaptibar questions, carefully studying the answer explanations for all answer choices. It's important to know why a certain answer choice is correct or incorrect. I complete about 50 questions per day over a roughly 2 month period ending with about 2800 completed questions at 73% correctly answered.


73% was total correct over the 2 months? So did you start around 65% and end closer to 80%?

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:03 pm
by FinallyPassedTheBar
PorscheFanatic wrote:
6TimeFailure wrote:
ashleymdbartaker wrote:I was unsuccessful on the bar, due to the MBE. It is very frustrating. I used critical pass flashcards and adaptibar. While this raised my score it was not enough to push my score. My question is do you recommend a tutor for the MBE? For those who did use adaptibar, how did you use it? What study materials/tools do you recommend to raise my MBE score? How did you study for the MBE? Any advice would be appreciated!!



What was your overall percentage correct on Adaptibar and how many questions did you complete?

Without Adaptibar I got below 125 on the MBE. With Adaptibar I raised my score to 150+ (I believe I got around 160 but CA does not release MBE scores to successful examinees).

I immersed myself in Adaptibar questions, carefully studying the answer explanations for all answer choices. It's important to know why a certain answer choice is correct or incorrect. I complete about 50 questions per day over a roughly 2 month period ending with about 2800 completed questions at 73% correctly answered.


73% was total correct over the 2 months? So did you start around 65% and end closer to 80%?


Yes that is about right. I think it is doable for all bar takers. I did not do anything special other than immerse myself in Adaptibar. I knew the test had increased the MBE weight, so I focused on that a lot. Here is a screen shot of my progress table last summer with Adaptibar

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Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:19 pm
by polkadot12
Do questions. I did at least 4,500.
I did all of the kaplan ones, book and online.

Re: MBE - what study tools raised your score?

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:22 pm
by toast and bananas
I would advise not wasting money on "study tools" and would spend more time on adjusting your strategies. Unlike many law school exams, you cannot buy a passing score to the bar.