July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

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July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby barkschool » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:28 pm

Didn't see. checking in.

Good luck all.

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby philippian413 » Mon May 01, 2017 5:30 am

Good luck all

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby shaynislegend » Mon May 01, 2017 12:54 pm

In, and using Themis. When is everyone looking to start full time studying?

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby kandi007 » Sun May 07, 2017 10:59 pm

Barbri starts on the day of my graduation so I will be starting the following Monday.

Which is also my birthday. What a way to celebrate.

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby barkschool » Mon May 08, 2017 1:27 am

shaynislegend wrote:In, and using Themis. When is everyone looking to start full time studying?


"immersion" (submersion?) is the 17th or 18th

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby philippian413 » Tue May 23, 2017 9:22 am

Please on as looking for someone to study with in Hampton or chesepeake area. Tks.

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby shaynislegend » Fri May 26, 2017 11:22 am

Local government law? :?

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby kandi007 » Fri May 26, 2017 12:13 pm

Barbri:

Anyone else notice that in the beginning RP III lecture notes she skipped over two fill in the blanks?

I watched at 9:00 am so I'm just trying to make sure I wasn't still half sleep.

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby Atticus92 » Fri May 26, 2017 3:50 pm

I started barbri online a little early to not feel as overwhelmed later on.

With that being said, Barbri really need to get a new Wills and Trusts lecturer. His handout is mostly just dense text that he seems to half remember. It's pretty rough.

Also, good luck everyone!

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby barkschool » Fri May 26, 2017 10:42 pm

kandi007 wrote:Barbri:

Anyone else notice that in the beginning RP III lecture notes she skipped over two fill in the blanks?

I watched at 9:00 am so I'm just trying to make sure I wasn't still half sleep.


I think she answers them later on, legal or equitable

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby uncleharry » Tue May 30, 2017 12:12 pm

Checking in. Barbri but kinda doing my own thing (i.e., no lectures).

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby uncleharry » Wed May 31, 2017 7:28 am

http://www.ncbex.org/pdfviewer/?file=%2 ... ment%2F201

I might be behind the times on this, but the above document is helpful for prioritizing what to hone in on for the MBE. For practice purposes, I'm shooting for 130/200 as a baseline to ensure a roughly 140 scaled MBE.

(math for above: 200/175 = 1.143 x 130 = 148.6 ... so with margin of error at least 140)

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby barkschool » Wed May 31, 2017 6:47 pm

do we think its good or bad that the essay takes a 60% weight?

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby uncleharry » Wed May 31, 2017 6:55 pm

Bad in the sense that, if you hit the average on the MBE and it's low - as in, below 140 - and you do equally well (average) on the essays (which are scaled to the MBE) you fail.

Good in the sense that, we have a damn good idea of what at least 4-5 of the essay subjects will be.

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby barkschool » Wed May 31, 2017 7:14 pm

uncleharry wrote:Bad in the sense that, if you hit the average on the MBE and it's low - as in, below 140 - and you do equally well (average) on the essays (which are scaled to the MBE) you fail.

Good in the sense that, we have a damn good idea of what at least 4-5 of the essay subjects will be.


It just looks like that the essays are the easiest way (even on subjects you don't know the rule) to get the most points. You can write 8-9 point essays by just clearly reasoning and taking a thorough analysis of the facts given as long as you include each section of CIRAC.

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby philippian413 » Wed May 31, 2017 7:24 pm

barkschool wrote:
uncleharry wrote:Bad in the sense that, if you hit the average on the MBE and it's low - as in, below 140 - and you do equally well (average) on the essays (which are scaled to the MBE) you fail.

Good in the sense that, we have a damn good idea of what at least 4-5 of the essay subjects will be.


It just looks like that the essays are the easiest way (even on subjects you don't know the rule) to get the most points. You can write 8-9 point essays by just clearly reasoning and taking a thorough analysis of the facts given as long as you include each section of CIRAC.


I don't that is a right as if you look at the pass rate and detail of answers for 10/10 have you need to know the rule/rules and explain detail.

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby uncleharry » Wed May 31, 2017 7:33 pm

Yeah, I'm not sure how to gauge what a 8-9 point essay is in my practice based on the fact that the examiners only release model 10 point answers. I agree with the sentiment that we should spend more time studying essay topics since it counts for more. But I also think that an boosting my MBE at least a couple of points above average is a failsafe because essay grading is somewhat more arbitrary.

Also, FWIW, I just found and joined this website and am glad to have an outlet of folks to commiserate with.

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby shaynislegend » Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:03 pm

barkschool wrote:
uncleharry wrote:Bad in the sense that, if you hit the average on the MBE and it's low - as in, below 140 - and you do equally well (average) on the essays (which are scaled to the MBE) you fail.

Good in the sense that, we have a damn good idea of what at least 4-5 of the essay subjects will be.


It just looks like that the essays are the easiest way (even on subjects you don't know the rule) to get the most points. You can write 8-9 point essays by just clearly reasoning and taking a thorough analysis of the facts given as long as you include each section of CIRAC.


After getting a local government essay about the proper procedure for a FOIA request I am not so sure I am looking forward to the essay portion :?

So far, MBE stuff hasn't been too bad, but then again I am not really sure how the Themis questions compare to the MBE stuff.

What are the essay topics that are most likely other than civil procedure? I've read something like Ks, property, professional responsibility, wills, crim, and family law.

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby kandi007 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:30 pm

Does anyone know of a place where I can get short answer questions to work on?

My materials had some, but I worked through all of the real property ones (all 5 of them, 3 out of 5 correct) and I am a repetition type of person. The more I answer the better I will feel, especially since I didn't take classes like Wills and Trusts and I went to school out of state.

shaynislegend wrote:What are the essay topics that are most likely other than civil procedure? I've read something like Ks, property, professional responsibility, wills, crim, and family law.


The Barbri essay workshop basically said those that you pointed out I think. I had it printed out but left it in my office - I can check tomorrow and update you with the exact answer if no one else has by then.

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby Law Dude » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:14 am

VIRGINIA CIVIL PROCEDURE! !

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby kandi007 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:28 pm

Just came in to say fuck the augmented estate. Too much math, my brain won't comprehend.

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby shaynislegend » Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:57 pm

Anyone else ever feel like they are essential testing our ability to read minds?

Wow, some of these questions could really be more direct and clear.

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby barkschool » Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:58 pm

Why are we supposed to learn VA distinctions for evidence .......


I thought evidence is not tested on the state portion? (referencing that VA bar portion essay topics chart)

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby uncleharry » Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:26 pm

The barbri chart doesn't show it but it was tested in February of this year, and at least one other time in the past couple of years. I went through all the old exam questions and tallied up the results but didn't write a date for anything but the most recent testing date

Question 7 for reference

http://law.wm.edu/academics/howto/prepa ... 0Q%20A.pdf

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Re: July 2017 Virginia Bar Thread

Postby Law Dude » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:17 pm

Evidence has been tested several times in the past for examplea are martial privilege and martial communications and the Alford plea and where it is admissible in a civil case.




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