How many points away from the passing score until you quit trying?

Mickey1229
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Re: How many points away from the passing score until you quit trying?

Postby Mickey1229 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:54 am

Ridgewood_53 wrote:
arc1138 wrote:Okay,
So I've taken the IL bar 3 times. I had a 149 LSAT score and graduated on time.
However I've not been able to pass. All 3 times I've gone up in score and this last time I was 10 points off.
Is that an insurmountable point gap?
I think I know a place where I can make up points but just wonder if I never had what it takes in the first place.

Anyone have a similar experience and pass? Quit?


July 2016: 266

Feb. 2017: 313

154 LSAT and a complete moron in law school. Trust me, there's hope.


Amazing!

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Re: How many points away from the passing score until you quit trying?

Postby eatthebarforlunch » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:35 pm

Mickey1229 wrote:
Ridgewood_53 wrote:
arc1138 wrote:Okay,
So I've taken the IL bar 3 times. I had a 149 LSAT score and graduated on time.
However I've not been able to pass. All 3 times I've gone up in score and this last time I was 10 points off.
Is that an insurmountable point gap?
I think I know a place where I can make up points but just wonder if I never had what it takes in the first place.

Anyone have a similar experience and pass? Quit?


July 2016: 266

Feb. 2017: 313

154 LSAT and a complete moron in law school. Trust me, there's hope.


Amazing!

Look at taking the bar in a different UBE state that has fewer applicants. The MPT and MEE are graded by the states so if you have less competition you will fall higher on the scale and then transfer your UBE to the state that you want.

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Re: How many points away from the passing score until you quit trying?

Postby squiggle » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:09 pm

eatthebarforlunch wrote:
Mickey1229 wrote:
Ridgewood_53 wrote:
arc1138 wrote:Okay,
So I've taken the IL bar 3 times. I had a 149 LSAT score and graduated on time.
However I've not been able to pass. All 3 times I've gone up in score and this last time I was 10 points off.
Is that an insurmountable point gap?
I think I know a place where I can make up points but just wonder if I never had what it takes in the first place.

Anyone have a similar experience and pass? Quit?


July 2016: 266

Feb. 2017: 313

154 LSAT and a complete moron in law school. Trust me, there's hope.


Amazing!

Look at taking the bar in a different UBE state that has fewer applicants. The MPT and MEE are graded by the states so if you have less competition you will fall higher on the scale and then transfer your UBE to the state that you want.


I would suggest taking it in a state with MORE applicants, where the curve will be more forgiving. The is especially true in a state like NY, where many of the other applicants are LLM students, who may not be writing in their native language.

The wider range of answers also allows you to stand out more, because each grader will be reading more essays on average than graders in states will fewer applicants. I also found that the state with a larger pool was more forgiving when you run out of time or have to make up answers. In a larger state, the spectrum of answers is larger, including some blanks for those who didn't finish.

I've done both (I took NY before it was UBE, and I've taken a taken a state with very few applicants). The larger state had a much more forgiving curve, even though I thought my answers were actually better in the small state.

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Re: How many points away from the passing score until you quit trying?

Postby arc1138 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:42 am

I wanted to thank you all for your encouragement. On my fourth try, in July 2017, I passed the Illinois Bar!!

Its totally possible.

Never surrender.

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Re: How many points away from the passing score until you quit trying?

Postby b290 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:05 pm

arc1138 wrote:I wanted to thank you all for your encouragement. On my fourth try, in July 2017, I passed the Illinois Bar!!

Its totally possible.

Never surrender.


well done counselor! :)

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Re: How many points away from the passing score until you quit trying?

Postby RCinDNA » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:41 pm

It makes me smile seeing your first post and comparing it to your last post. But I'm a big old softy.

:D

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Re: How many points away from the passing score until you quit trying?

Postby S0M21L » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:33 pm

arc1138 wrote:I wanted to thank you all for your encouragement. On my fourth try, in July 2017, I passed the Illinois Bar!!

Its totally possible.

Never surrender.


Congratulations!

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Re: How many points away from the passing score until you quit trying?

Postby L_William_W » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:11 pm

arc1138 wrote:Okay,
So I've taken the IL bar 3 times. I had a 149 LSAT score and graduated on time.
However I've not been able to pass. All 3 times I've gone up in score and this last time I was 10 points off.
Is that an insurmountable point gap?
I think I know a place where I can make up points but just wonder if I never had what it takes in the first place.

Anyone have a similar experience and pass? Quit?


151 LSAT. I nearly got academically dismissed from law school. I took 6 bar exams in two states:

February 2014 (NY) Didn't complete- got sick during exam

July 2014 (NY and NJ) Failed- 118.6 MBE

February 2015 (NJ) Failed- 123.2 MBE

July 2015 (NJ) Passed- 130.2 MBE

July 2017 (NY) Passed- 149.3 MBE

One guy passed the NY bar exam on his SEVENTEENTH attempt:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013 ... t-customer

NEVER give up
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Re: How many points away from the passing score until you quit trying?

Postby haus » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:16 pm

b290 wrote:
arc1138 wrote:I wanted to thank you all for your encouragement. On my fourth try, in July 2017, I passed the Illinois Bar!!

Its totally possible.

Never surrender.


well done counselor! :)

Congrats!




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