cnk1220 wrote:SmokeytheBear wrote:jman77 wrote:Slickrick90 wrote:jman77 wrote:Slickrick90 wrote:Man I'm starting to get worried. This is my second crack at the bar. Maybe need 3! Even Lebron needed 3 cracks at the finals before he won! Lol
It is just embarrassing (and a little costly) someone that did well and went to a top school can fail the bar. I can blame the biglaw hours and that I have nothing on the line in terms if I don't pass. Maybe I can blame that.
Very understandable. I only had 2 weeks to prepare for the bar as I also worked biglaw hours and had several closings schedule up to the week I started by 2-week bar leave. I just ended up doing a lot of MBE questions and reading and re-reading smartbarprep outlines. I was enrolled in Barbri, but had no time to listen to the lectures or read the materials. Smartbarprep is very useful, by the way. The outlines contain all the rules used in previous exams and rank them according to the frequency with which they appeared. I only had time to go over the "high" frequency rules, but I think that was sufficient. Some of the rule statements were incomplete, but I think sufficient to pass (provided you know how to apply to the facts, of course). Having taken the NY bar 3 years ago also helped to an extent.
I used smartbarprep too. That, my buddy's outlines, and the Barbri essay book are all that I used to study lol. I felt like I had a very superficial understanding of the issues. Hence, I didn't write a lot for the essays. I hope I did really well on the MPT. I spent 2 hours on the MPT and 45 mins each on the essay questions.
I did the 1 day exam so I didn't have to worry about MBE issues.
Honestly, I thought the MPT was pretty straightforward and fairly easy. I think we benefited from the fact that they're still trying to figure out how to go from a 3-hour test to a 1.5-hour one. I only spent an hour on it (wasted time trying to get Softest to work after it froze on me until I finally ended up handwriting the MPT) and still feel good about it. If you spent 2 hours on hit I'm sure you did very well.
The MPT was weird in that there was only one file in the library and the test wasn't a closed universe with made-up jurisdictions and made up rules (you actually had to bring in outside knowledge of the law). But then, maybe that's the way CA MPT's have always been?
No, you're not supposed to bring in outside knowledge of the law. Often times the law of the MPT universe will be parallel if not the same as real law. But the exercise is supposed to be closed universe.
I've seen some practice MPTs (granted this was when I was studying for the UBE) were sometimes the law in the case file is actually slightly wrong to test if you will bring in outside knowledge of the law or follow directions and apply only the law in your file. The PTs are supposed to be 100% closed universe- everything you need is in the file they give you.
Yes. My friend who took the test this year--who knows the actual substance of the real law that was discussed in the CA PT--noted that the law they gave you in the PT was not the real law. He noted it was hard for him to have to deviate from what he knows to be true. I didn't ask him to explain how, but I trust his knowledge.