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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby yankeeman86 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:08 pm

I don't quite remember anymore, lol but werent they

living trust - income distribution
testamentary trust - nonprobate/trust asset vs probate
revocable trust vs elective share (illusory revocable trust will not defeat elective share)

family law - valid common law marriage in one state is valid in another? full credit/faith, 2nd part - pre-marriage voids a marriage

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby yankeeman86 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:10 pm

corps was a mess, any idea what was happening?

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby happyhour1122 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:11 pm

No marriage between b and d.- void as bigamy
D can't take any of b' s $

But...if you were to argue... how can D take b's money?
Also, since d is not the father...how can he have visitation? Omg I spelled paternity as pertunity. Fuck.

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby jaskat » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:12 pm

PM'ed you

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby cnk1220 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:13 pm

yankeeman86 wrote:I don't quite remember anymore, lol but werent they

living trust - income distribution
testamentary trust - nonprobate/trust asset vs probate
revocable trust vs elective share (illusory revocable trust will not defeat elective share)

family law - valid common law marriage in one state is valid in another? full credit/faith, 2nd part - pre-marriage voids a marriage


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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby happyhour1122 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:13 pm

yankeeman86 wrote:I don't quite remember anymore, lol but werent they

living trust - income distribution
testamentary trust - nonprobate/trust asset vs probate
revocable trust vs elective share (illusory revocable trust will not defeat elective share)

family law - valid common law marriage in one state is valid in another? full credit/faith, 2nd part - pre-marriage voids a marriage


Oh wow.. none of that in my trust hahaha...:(
Totally missed full faith credit... didnt think there was merit or final...but shouldve mentioned!!!

I only mentioned state b had state a valid marriage as A and B married prior to its decision to I validate common marriage.

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby Jmazz88 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:18 pm

happyhour1122 wrote:No marriage between b and d.- void as bigamy
D can't take any of b' s $

But...if you were to argue... how can D take b's money?
Also, since d is not the father...how can he have visitation? Omg I spelled paternity as pertunity. Fuck.


For the visitation part I said the court would apply the Best Interest of the Child standard but ultimately said it would be shot down. No idea if it's correct, though...

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby cnk1220 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:19 pm

yankeeman86 wrote:corps was a mess, any idea what was happening?


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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby cnk1220 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:19 pm

Jmazz88 wrote:
happyhour1122 wrote:No marriage between b and d.- void as bigamy
D can't take any of b' s $

But...if you were to argue... how can D take b's money?
Also, since d is not the father...how can he have visitation? Omg I spelled paternity as pertunity. Fuck.


For the visitation part I said the court would apply the Best Interest of the Child standard but ultimately said it would be shot down. No idea if it's correct, though...


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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby happyhour1122 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:19 pm

yankeeman86 wrote:corps was a mess, any idea what was happening?


Derivatives suit
Hold share-demand letter- 90 days unless futile - director denial no good- no court investigation - breach of their fiduciary duty and not protected under BJR.

Anything else?

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby happyhour1122 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:20 pm

cnk1220 wrote:
Jmazz88 wrote:
happyhour1122 wrote:No marriage between b and d.- void as bigamy
D can't take any of b' s $

But...if you were to argue... how can D take b's money?
Also, since d is not the father...how can he have visitation? Omg I spelled paternity as pertunity. Fuck.


For the visitation part I said the court would apply the Best Interest of the Child standard but ultimately said it would be shot down. No idea if it's correct, though...


Ok i said that too! Woo!


ME too. I also mentioned that it violates the mother's constituonal right if ordered vistation to the third party.

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby cnk1220 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:23 pm

happyhour1122 wrote:
cnk1220 wrote:
Jmazz88 wrote:
happyhour1122 wrote:No marriage between b and d.- void as bigamy
D can't take any of b' s $

But...if you were to argue... how can D take b's money?
Also, since d is not the father...how can he have visitation? Omg I spelled paternity as pertunity. Fuck.


For the visitation part I said the court would apply the Best Interest of the Child standard but ultimately said it would be shot down. No idea if it's correct, though...


Ok i said that too! Woo!


ME too. I also mentioned that it violates the mother's constituonal right if ordered vistation to the third party.


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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby happyhour1122 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:26 pm

cnk1220 wrote:
happyhour1122 wrote:
cnk1220 wrote:
Jmazz88 wrote:
happyhour1122 wrote:No marriage between b and d.- void as bigamy
D can't take any of b' s $

But...if you were to argue... how can D take b's money?
Also, since d is not the father...how can he have visitation? Omg I spelled paternity as pertunity. Fuck.


For the visitation part I said the court would apply the Best Interest of the Child standard but ultimately said it would be shot down. No idea if it's correct, though...


Ok i said that too! Woo!


ME too. I also mentioned that it violates the mother's constituonal right if ordered vistation to the third party.


Yes i brought in a due process of the bio parent's right...maybe the graders were overlook the fact i totally missed their marriage was void and give me points under my equitable distribution of marital asset argument




Oh they will. Probabaly more points if you argued subdtantial issues diner due process. I didn't know what to say after concluding that their marriage was void under bigamy rule.

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby nelue » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:31 pm

Jmazz88 wrote:
happyhour1122 wrote:No marriage between b and d.- void as bigamy
D can't take any of b' s $

But...if you were to argue... how can D take b's money?
Also, since d is not the father...how can he have visitation? Omg I spelled paternity as pertunity. Fuck.


For the visitation part I said the court would apply the Best Interest of the Child standard but ultimately said it would be shot down. No idea if it's correct, though...


Same but + D was basically only father kid knew and established a parent child relationship and held himself out as parent sorta lol so he has rights ... at least can visit
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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby yankeeman86 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:41 pm

happyhour1122 wrote:No marriage between b and d.- void as bigamy
D can't take any of b' s $

But...if you were to argue... how can D take b's money?
Also, since d is not the father...how can he have visitation? Omg I spelled paternity as pertunity. Fuck.


legal adoption of child can be implied...

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby yankeeman86 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:43 pm

happyhour1122 wrote:
yankeeman86 wrote:corps was a mess, any idea what was happening?


Derivatives suit
Hold share-demand letter- 90 days unless futile - director denial no good- no court investigation - breach of their fiduciary duty and not protected under BJR.

Anything else?



shareholder entitled to inspect board minutes/accounting records, i think 5 day notice?

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby happyhour1122 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:43 pm

yankeeman86 wrote:
happyhour1122 wrote:No marriage between b and d.- void as bigamy
D can't take any of b' s $

But...if you were to argue... how can D take b's money?
Also, since d is not the father...how can he have visitation? Omg I spelled paternity as pertunity. Fuck.


legal adoption of child can be implied...

What do yiu mean?

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby happyhour1122 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:44 pm

yankeeman86 wrote:
happyhour1122 wrote:
yankeeman86 wrote:corps was a mess, any idea what was happening?


Derivatives suit
Hold share-demand letter- 90 days unless futile - director denial no good- no court investigation - breach of their fiduciary duty and not protected under BJR.

Anything else?



shareholder entitled to inspect board minutes/accounting records, i think 5 day notice?



Yes that too. 5 day notice.

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby yankeeman86 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:45 pm

nelue wrote:
Jmazz88 wrote:
happyhour1122 wrote:No marriage between b and d.- void as bigamy
D can't take any of b' s $

But...if you were to argue... how can D take b's money?
Also, since d is not the father...how can he have visitation? Omg I spelled paternity as pertunity. Fuck.


For the visitation part I said the court would apply the Best Interest of the Child standard but ultimately said it would be shot down. No idea if it's correct, though...


I did this too but threw in that D was basically only father kid knew and established a parent child relationship and held himself out as parent sorta lol so he has rights ... at least can visit


denial of court ordered visitation rights is very rare unless the parent is a threat to the kid's safety or health. i said visitation rights will be granted. He established a parent-child relationship, depends on circumstances like love/relationship

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby yankeeman86 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:46 pm

nelue wrote:
Jmazz88 wrote:
happyhour1122 wrote:No marriage between b and d.- void as bigamy
D can't take any of b' s $

But...if you were to argue... how can D take b's money?
Also, since d is not the father...how can he have visitation? Omg I spelled paternity as pertunity. Fuck.


For the visitation part I said the court would apply the Best Interest of the Child standard but ultimately said it would be shot down. No idea if it's correct, though...


I did this too but threw in that D was basically only father kid knew and established a parent child relationship and held himself out as parent sorta lol so he has rights ... at least can visit



^^

parent child relationship can be established

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby yankeeman86 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:48 pm

cnk1220 wrote:
yankeeman86 wrote:I don't quite remember anymore, lol but werent they

living trust - income distribution
testamentary trust - nonprobate/trust asset vs probate
revocable trust vs elective share (illusory revocable trust will not defeat elective share)

family law - valid common law marriage in one state is valid in another? full credit/faith, 2nd part - pre-marriage voids a marriage


I was confused about the "charity" Q stuff in trusts I thought they were getting at the power of appt or something but I got the income stuff and elective share I think... Wow totally missed the pre marriage voids their marriage, sigh. I totally thought they were asking about their divorce and some equitable distribution of the lottery winnings so I went on a tangent about that :shock:


charity bequest fails/specific appointment not general.

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby Lizbeth » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:50 pm

Anyone remember if 2nd question asked you to assume that the 2nd marriage was valid or did they ask you to assume the first was valid? :oops:

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby Roclandsfinest23 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:50 pm

Jmazz88 wrote:
happyhour1122 wrote:No marriage between b and d.- void as bigamy
D can't take any of b' s $

But...if you were to argue... how can D take b's money?
Also, since d is not the father...how can he have visitation? Omg I spelled paternity as pertunity. Fuck.


For the visitation part I said the court would apply the Best Interest of the Child standard but ultimately said it would be shot down. No idea if it's correct, though...



I did the same regarding visitation but said because he was like a father it was her best interest to have a father figure. Same analysis though

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby Lizbeth » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:50 pm

Also, did anyone add a discussion portion to the 2nd MPT?

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Re: New York Bar (Albany)

Postby yankeeman86 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:51 pm

Contracts -

not automatically UCC territory, must be merchants.

not a firm offer because gardener is not a merchant even though cook may be merchant.

separate consid required under common law.

can revoke before acceptance.

im sure there was more. i did question 6 first. then question 3, 4, then 2 and 5. had like 20 minutes to do question 1. Questions 3-4 are generally the most difficult. test takers usually run out of time once they hit 6 so question 6 answers are not the greatest.



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