2017 February California Bar Exam

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby rcharter1978 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:52 pm

You may have bombed an essay, but remember that a good PT can knock out two essays.

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby InterAlia1961 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:53 pm

rcharter1978 wrote:You may have bombed an essay, but remember that a good PT can knock out two essays.


True, and I don't feel horrible about the PTs. Seems kind of odd since the last two times I got to a whopping 55 on both. This time, I had some help from a dear colleague. I feel better about them, especially the second one. I enjoyed that one. The first PT was a bit out of my wheelhouse (nursing and education), but it didn't seem too difficult. The young woman sitting next to me said she discussed the nursing shortage as an emergency, thereby authorizing the school nurses to give the shots. I thought it was clever. Wish I would've thought of it, but I think I did okay on it.

The truth of the matter is that the last time I failed it, it was because I failed the MBE. Had I passed it, there wouldn't have been a re-read, and I would've passed. (Lost points on the re-read.)

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby rcharter1978 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:04 pm

InterAlia1961 wrote:
rcharter1978 wrote:You may have bombed an essay, but remember that a good PT can knock out two essays.


True, and I don't feel horrible about the PTs. Seems kind of odd since the last two times I got to a whopping 55 on both. This time, I had some help from a dear colleague. I feel better about them, especially the second one. I enjoyed that one. The first PT was a bit out of my wheelhouse (nursing and education), but it didn't seem too difficult. The young woman sitting next to me said she discussed the nursing shortage as an emergency, thereby authorizing the school nurses to give the shots. I thought it was clever. Wish I would've thought of it, but I think I did okay on it.

The truth of the matter is that the last time I failed it, it was because I failed the MBE. Had I passed it, there wouldn't have been a re-read, and I would've passed. (Lost points on the re-read.)


Your situation sucks but I think it's easier to fix and so you'll probably be fine. I think novel ideas and interpretations are welcome but probably not as earth shattering as people think.

I got a tutor for my retake, and he was a former bar grader. He gave me the impression that while good ideas were great, better form was the most important thing.

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby ur_hero » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:19 pm

I'm convinced I may have bombed two essays (50-55 range)....And done sub-par on at least one more (60 range). If only I had managed time better, I wouldn't be anxious about these!

Hoping the PTs make the difference this time, as I at least felt like I crushed them. Also feel like my other 3 essays are contenders for 70+. MBEs should be solid if it is in my practice range of 67-72%....I didn't feel like it was a particularly difficult set either day.

Fortunately work is crazy busy this next month...I'm finding myself here less and less often!

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby InterAlia1961 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:09 am

For what it's worth, a debrief of Q4--the business essay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFyABkFlHrw

I ran out of time. Answered q3 in about 160 words. If I got to 60, I'll be grateful.

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby InterAlia1961 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:14 pm

I've been listening/watching the debriefs of the CBX. So far, none of them are helpful. Not because they don't do a decent enough job of spotting the issues. They do. But they don't tell us what the grading rubric is likely to look like. Without that information, the "professional" debriefs aren't any more valuable than the debriefs we all did here right after the test. Like the "professionals" we can spot the issues. It's the rubric that we don't have a clue about. This site is also offering debriefs, but you have to give them your email: http://powerlaw.barsecrets.com/

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby barexaminerssuck27 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:05 pm

FEB 2017 HAS THE LOWEST MBE SCORES IN HISTORY. FML

STUDYING AGAIN!

http://abovethelaw.com/2017/04/mbe-scor ... -time-low/

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby a male human » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:44 pm

barexaminerssuck27 wrote:FEB 2017 HAS THE LOWEST MBE SCORES IN HISTORY. FML

STUDYING AGAIN!

http://abovethelaw.com/2017/04/mbe-scor ... -time-low/

Remember when the president of the NCBE said it was because students were "less able"?

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby InterAlia1961 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:12 am

barexaminerssuck27 wrote:FEB 2017 HAS THE LOWEST MBE SCORES IN HISTORY. FML

STUDYING AGAIN!

http://abovethelaw.com/2017/04/mbe-scor ... -time-low/


Don't start studying if you really don't feel like it. Let's take a look at this from another angle. Why would you study again? I've seen your posts. You're sharp. Why assume you failed? You had to get 119 correct on the MBE to pass, right? Do you really think you missed 56 questions? C'mon. Even if you failed it, you'll have ten weeks to study before the next administration. At least wait until after the Easter holiday.

I'm not feeling great about it either, but I'm going to wait for the results. Until then, I'm reading and binge watching weird things on Netflix. Try the OA. Weird and intriguing.

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby armenianBEAUTY » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:43 pm

InterAlia1961 wrote:
barexaminerssuck27 wrote:FEB 2017 HAS THE LOWEST MBE SCORES IN HISTORY. FML

STUDYING AGAIN!

http://abovethelaw.com/2017/04/mbe-scor ... -time-low/


Don't start studying if you really don't feel like it. Let's take a look at this from another angle. Why would you study again? I've seen your posts. You're sharp. Why assume you failed? You had to get 119 correct on the MBE to pass, right? Do you really think you missed 56 questions? C'mon. Even if you failed it, you'll have ten weeks to study before the next administration. At least wait until after the Easter holiday.

I'm not feeling great about it either, but I'm going to wait for the results. Until then, I'm reading and binge watching weird things on Netflix. Try the OA. Weird and intriguing.


^I second these thoughts. I've watched every crime documentary I didn't even know existed. 8) 8) 8) Positive wishes for all of us.

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby spartan4life » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:47 pm

In response to February 2017 Bar having lowest MBE score in history, that MBE score they talk about is the National MBE score that includes ALL states. California's bar applicants have scored above the national MBE score the last two years so the article is a little misleading if you think it refers to California. The Deans of about every law school in California are using this as an argument to point out that California's MBE scores are higher than the national average to bring down the 1440 required to pass in CA.

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby ur_hero » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:16 pm

Thought it would be fun to predict my absolute worst/best case scenarios based on the One-Timers Calculator (because I like to torment myself). I honestly thought I crushed Essays 1, 4, and 6, as well as the PTs - so it's really going to come down to whether those came out as good as I felt to make up likely lost points on the others.

Quite a range: 1385-1565.

WORST CASE:

Essay 1: 65
Essay 2: 55
Essay 3: 50
Essay 4: 65
Essay 5: 45 (ran out of time - substantially incomplete)
Essay 6: 65
PTA: 60
PTB: 65
MBE: 124 (~65% based on old 190 scale for calculator purposes)

TOTAL: 1385

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BEST CASE:

Essay 1: 75
Essay 2: 60
Essay 3: 60
Essay 4: 70
Essay 5: 50
Essay 6: 75
PTA: 70
PTB: 70
MBE: 136 (~72% based on old 190 scale for calculator purposes)

TOTAL: 1565


THREE more weeks friends . . .

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby InterAlia1961 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:41 pm

ur_hero wrote:Thought it would be fun to predict my absolute worst/best case scenarios based on the One-Timers Calculator (because I like to torment myself). I honestly thought I crushed Essays 1, 4, and 6, as well as the PTs - so it's really going to come down to whether those came out as good as I felt to make up likely lost points on the others.

Quite a range: 1385-1565.

WORST CASE:

Essay 1: 65
Essay 2: 55
Essay 3: 50
Essay 4: 65
Essay 5: 45 (ran out of time - substantially incomplete)
Essay 6: 65
PTA: 60
PTB: 65
MBE: 124 (~65% based on old 190 scale for calculator purposes)

TOTAL: 1385

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BEST CASE:

Essay 1: 75
Essay 2: 60
Essay 3: 60
Essay 4: 70
Essay 5: 50
Essay 6: 75
PTA: 70
PTB: 70
MBE: 136 (~72% based on old 190 scale for calculator purposes)

TOTAL: 1565


THREE more weeks friends . . .


Please. There is no way you got a 45 or a 50. C'mon. Last time I took it, I got a 65 on the CP essay, and I BSed my way through the whole thing. In fact,it was my highest-scoring essay. The lowest was 55 on the re-read. I'll be watching for you to post the good news on the 12th. If you got 124 correct on the MBE, that's passing. You're good.

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Re: 2017 February California Bar Exam

Postby ur_hero » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:35 pm

InterAlia1961 wrote:
ur_hero wrote:Thought it would be fun to predict my absolute worst/best case scenarios based on the One-Timers Calculator (because I like to torment myself). I honestly thought I crushed Essays 1, 4, and 6, as well as the PTs - so it's really going to come down to whether those came out as good as I felt to make up likely lost points on the others.

Quite a range: 1385-1565.

WORST CASE:

Essay 1: 65
Essay 2: 55
Essay 3: 50
Essay 4: 65
Essay 5: 45 (ran out of time - substantially incomplete)
Essay 6: 65
PTA: 60
PTB: 65
MBE: 124 (~65% based on old 190 scale for calculator purposes)

TOTAL: 1385

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

BEST CASE:

Essay 1: 75
Essay 2: 60
Essay 3: 60
Essay 4: 70
Essay 5: 50
Essay 6: 75
PTA: 70
PTB: 70
MBE: 136 (~72% based on old 190 scale for calculator purposes)

TOTAL: 1565


THREE more weeks friends . . .


Please. There is no way you got a 45 or a 50. C'mon. Last time I took it, I got a 65 on the CP essay, and I BSed my way through the whole thing. In fact,it was my highest-scoring essay. The lowest was 55 on the re-read. I'll be watching for you to post the good news on the 12th. If you got 124 correct on the MBE, that's passing. You're good.


Thanks. I really hope so!




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