Mckay wrote: BVest wrote:
favrefire4 wrote:Hmm. That'd be about a 145 on the MBE? (scaled)
If you have a 145 scaled MBE and perform about the same level on essays and MPT, you would need to do worse than the equivalent of a 45 (on the same MBE scale) on the P/E exam to fail. That is theoretically possible, but I don't think it's practically possible. Someone on here got a 0th %ile on the MPT a couple years ago and his/her scaled MPT score was 106.
Bvest, you seem to understand this and I don't. I think I will do ok on the MBE, the MPT, and at least the Civ Pro part of the PE. I am worried about the Texas essays because I am not from here. How are they scored? If I do alright on the other parts, how would I need to do on the Texas essays to pass? Thanks for any help.
That's not really something that's possible to say, since "alright" is a fairly inexact number. There's a whole "Strong MBE = AutoPass" thread which I advise you NOT get sucked down into right now. You're going to do how you're going to do at this point.
As for how they're scored, just know that after the raw score is calculated, it will be scaled based on your percentile for that section, and your scaled score will be what you would have gotten if you'd gotten the same percentile on the MBE.
If you want a longer version of scoring on the Texas Bar, see below, but I would strongly suggest you have better things to do right now, even if that's just to rest for a bit
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- Basically everything is based off the MBE percentiles and scaled score. So, for example, last February the MBE median was 136.4 (February is always lower because of the number of retakers, who tend to do worse on average than first-time takers). Each exam they standardize the scores to the two previous MBEs by using some questions that were given on those two previous exams. If this year's examinees do better on those questions, the MBE median will go up. Or vice versa. For the sake of argument let's say this year's examinees do the same as last February.
Now move along to the other parts: MPT is given a raw score of 0 to 6; P/E is scored at 5 raw points per answer for a potential 0 to 200 raw score; and I think essays are scored at 25 raw points each (but it doesn't really matter because of standardization); I think they may also standardize the essay raw scores before adding them together.
They then look at your raw scores for each section and see where it lines up in terms of percentiles. So let's assume that a 110 raw score on the P/E is the median. They'll then say, "Okay, this person was median on the P/E, and the corresponding median MBE scaled score is 136.4, so this person gets a 136.4 scaled score on their P/E." Or if the examinee's P/E score was 99th percentile, they'll say "well, 99th percentile on the MBE was a 185 scaled score [or whatever 99th %ile is], so this person got a 185 scaled PE score."
After they get all your scaled scores for the sections, they then add them up by taking 1/2 of yoru P/E and MPT scores and twice your Essay and MBE scores. For example, if you had a 120 P/E, 140 MPT, 135 MBE and 137 Essay:
120 * .5 = 60
140 * .5 = 70
135 * 2 = 270
137 * 2 = 274
Total = 674
At this point, if it's 675 or higher, you pass. If it's less than 670, you fail. If it's 670 to 674, your essays get automatically regraded. During the automatic regrade, your score can only go up; it can't go down. The regrader does not know what the first grade was, but puts his/her own raw score down. If the regrade raw score is higher than the first raw score, they recalculate your total score using the new raw score; if the regrade raw is lower than your first raw score, your score remains the same. For this reason, very few people actually fail with a 670-674.