New York Law Course/Exam (NYLC/NYLE)

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Re: New York Law Course/Exam (NYLC/NYLE)

Postby Lawbrowsor25 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:36 pm

Passed!

For future test takers: I signed up to take both the MPRE and the NYLE with 2 days in between. So, because I wanted to focus on the MPRE, I printed the outline 2 days before and skimmed it to have a general idea of where everything would be and its content.

I know people who did not study at all and passed, but I still wanted to be safe.

It was wayyyy more difficult than past posts have stated, but I still would not do anymore than skim the entire outline.

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Re: New York Law Course/Exam (NYLC/NYLE)

Postby Intlawyer » Fri May 11, 2018 4:20 pm

Hi everyone,

I'm going through the NYLC videos - having most of them on mute while doing other stuff - and I got the impression that many questions can't be answered if you only rely on the provided materials, i.e. the answers are included only in the videos, and not also written in the materials.

Is it just a way to frighten the applicants, or the same thing happens on the actual exam, meaning that we really have to listen to the videos and take good notes??

Thanks in advance!

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Re: New York Law Course/Exam (NYLC/NYLE)

Postby irishguy » Sat May 12, 2018 3:24 am

Intlawyer wrote:Hi everyone,

I'm going through the NYLC videos - having most of them on mute while doing other stuff - and I got the impression that many questions can't be answered if you only rely on the provided materials, i.e. the answers are included only in the videos, and not also written in the materials.

Is it just a way to frighten the applicants, or the same thing happens on the actual exam, meaning that we really have to listen to the videos and take good notes??

Thanks in advance!


This is a great question. I felt the same whilst watching the videos. Signed up to take next month's NYLE and I'm wondering the same thing.

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Re: New York Law Course/Exam (NYLC/NYLE)

Postby GWLaw2016 » Fri May 25, 2018 3:36 pm

So, I thought I was all set to take the June 14 NYLE, and then I just got a notice of charges from the NYLC accusing me of using 3rd party software to fast forward the videos. I absolutely did NOT do any such thing. However, on one particular day (May 7), the videos kept freezing on me like crazy. I had to press “refresh” literally dozens of times. In a few instances, when I clicked refresh, instead of reloading the video, the question for that section would just pop up. From what I noticed, this seemed to happen when the video was almost done, so I didn’t really think anything of it. I answered the question and moved on. Now I’m being ordered to prepare a written, sworn response and either request or decline a hearing.

Has anyone here had any similar issue crop up? It seems to me that this was some glitch on their end - I was able to watch videos on other websites during the period when theirs were freezing up, so my connection wasn’t the problem.

Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: New York Law Course/Exam (NYLC/NYLE)

Postby ubebarstudying » Sat May 26, 2018 11:12 am

GWLaw2016 wrote:So, I thought I was all set to take the June 14 NYLE, and then I just got a notice of charges from the NYLC accusing me of using 3rd party software to fast forward the videos. I absolutely did NOT do any such thing. However, on one particular day (May 7), the videos kept freezing on me like crazy. I had to press “refresh” literally dozens of times. In a few instances, when I clicked refresh, instead of reloading the video, the question for that section would just pop up. From what I noticed, this seemed to happen when the video was almost done, so I didn’t really think anything of it. I answered the question and moved on. Now I’m being ordered to prepare a written, sworn response and either request or decline a hearing.

Has anyone here had any similar issue crop up? It seems to me that this was some glitch on their end - I was able to watch videos on other websites during the period when theirs were freezing up, so my connection wasn’t the problem.

Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.


My advice on this and any other situations (I will likely make a second post) is to be just forthcoming and explain to them what happened and you were not making any attempts to bypass the rules, videos, etc., and mention what happened on May 7th in detail but that you did not think that internet or software issues would cause problems for audit purposes or you would have contacted them immediately. In your particular instance, I would try to call someone before responding in writing re: having a hearing.

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Re: New York Law Course/Exam (NYLC/NYLE)

Postby ubebarstudying » Sat May 26, 2018 11:34 am

Intlawyer wrote:Hi everyone,

I'm going through the NYLC videos - having most of them on mute while doing other stuff - and I got the impression that many questions can't be answered if you only rely on the provided materials, i.e. the answers are included only in the videos, and not also written in the materials.

Is it just a way to frighten the applicants, or the same thing happens on the actual exam, meaning that we really have to listen to the videos and take good notes??

Thanks in advance!


Okay so this is for everyone but Intlawyer's post was an excellent one to respond to for purposes of the NYLC/NYLE. Here are my tips. I may make a post about this on my site (blockbusterblawg.com) because this is a frequent topic/issue.

First, I strongly encourage everyone to watch and listen to the videos. The notes may seem unhelpful, but if you do listen to and watch the videos and take notes in the margins, that will be beneficial and yes many of the questions you need to move on through the course are in the videos - we may not like it, but it makes sense when you consider their auditing policy; they want to ensure people are getting their respective dose of New York law, especially if you are coming from another jurisdiction.

Second and arguably most importantly, do not fast forward or skip or manipulate the videos! The rules clearly state your time will be audited, and in February there were multiple people who posted on here that were panicking because they were caught and e-mailed that they could not take the NYLE that session and I think the people were told the matter would or could be referred to character and fitness or effect whether they will remain a qualified examinee in New York/could take the next one or not.

Third, if you do have any issues with the videos or course due to their rules, or if you do risk fast forwarding or skipping, call them immediately
because we all presumably took Professional Responsibility or know generally what is and is not acceptable for the profession, and I distinctly remember one girl did just that and while I do not believe she was allowed to take that sitting of the NYLE, she was not forced into a hearing or character and fitness issues and was allowed to do it again - remember, candor and honesty, everyone. They like that. But the best policy is to just watch the videos and take notes and play by the rules rather than seeking shortcuts.

Finally, I don't know if this is of any help but when I took and passed the NYLC/NYLE, I watched and listened to the videos, I put their pdf/material into a binder, and I took notes in the margins, particularly if the material was inadequate on an issue but there was either 1) a question on it or 2) it seemed important. From there, I bought two packs of tabs (one big, one small) and I tabbed the binder using the big tabs to write which/where the topic was, and small tabs that I used to break the area into subtopics that I wrote on the tabs or I would star and write a "Q" if there was a question or it was emphasized/seemed important from the NYLC. I hope this helps! As stated in my previous post, I will likely do a post on my own website about this, but in a nutshell, the above points are (in my opinion) the most important.

Also, I will be posting an updated review of studicata's july 2018 program (hopefully) by Tuesday, and discount codes for critical pass and studicata can be found on my website (www.blockbusterblawg.com). I am also taking one more request - I generally take them in 3's so I do not keep people waiting a long time - and I got a request for a civ pro flowchart and a civ pro/conflicts condensed outline (the latter I already have a framework for but need to ensure it is up to date and then add the conflict of laws portion), so if anyone has a 3rd request let me know either here or via my website/facebook/twitter because I do not get PM's here and tend to check for notifications once a day but the time varies.



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