BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Barbro » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:02 pm

Good Guy Gaud wrote:
Barbro wrote:Fuck it- 80/100 on Emmanuel AM. If I'm not ready now, I never will be.



Dont you go being negative on us!

80/100 is solidAF


Oh if I got anywhere close to that on the real thing I would be so happy. I'm just ready to take the damn thing already

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Neff » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:03 pm

Just as with LSAT, I'm retaking if I get median.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby charlesxavier » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:05 pm

Barbro wrote:Fuck it- 80/100 on Emmanuel AM. If I'm not ready now, I never will be.


I have the same feeling. I'm at the point where the only thing more I could do is memorize every word of the CMR.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Barbro » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:08 pm

charlesxavier wrote:
Barbro wrote:Fuck it- 80/100 on Emmanuel AM. If I'm not ready now, I never will be.


I have the same feeling. I'm at the point where the only thing more I could do is memorize every word of the CMR.


Exactly. I feel like there's nothing more I could have possibly done, ready to get this show on the road and then quickly black out this whole experience

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Good Guy Gaud » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:14 pm

Barbro wrote:
charlesxavier wrote:
Barbro wrote:Fuck it- 80/100 on Emmanuel AM. If I'm not ready now, I never will be.


I have the same feeling. I'm at the point where the only thing more I could do is memorize every word of the CMR.


Exactly. I feel like there's nothing more I could have possibly done, ready to get this show on the road and then quickly black out this whole experience


Freal.

I'm jamming out until like 4pm today then going out tonight. Probably going to go HAM this weekend but I'm concerned I (and presumably all of us) am the point where I'm doing more harm than good.

We know enough. I HOAP

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby gretchenweiners » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:22 pm

Anyone really good with all the car stuff for crim? I consistently bungle it up. Trying to just lay all the rules out in one place.

To stop car: need reasonable suspicion that law has been violated. pre textual stop is okay if police have reasonable suspicion some law has been violated.

To search car (without driver being arrested):
*if officer reasonably believes weapons may be present --> can search passengers and passenger compartment, but not trunk. & can make driver/passenger exit car.
*if officer has probable cause before the search begins: can search entire vehicle (trunk included) and any containers in car that could contain the evidence officer is searching for; can search passengers and their belongings; can tow vehicle and search at later time

Searching car incident to arrest of driver:
Officer can conduct search car (except trunk) if at time of search: either (1) driver is unsecured / has physical access to interior of car OR (2) *officer can search any area of car (except trunk) that he reasonably suspects has evidence of the violation for which the car was pulled over (i.e. like looking in the glove compartment for alcohol container if thinks driver was drunk)

***so officer needs probable cause to arrest driver, but that probable cause only permits the above two searches? does the officer need separate probable cause that evidence is in the trunk to search the trunk even if officer has probable cause to arrest driver?

Checkpoints: needs to be a related vehicle-specific purpose (like a dui checkpoint); must stop cars using neutral standard

Inventory: if somehow the car is being searched related to an inventory search after an arrest, this is fine (don't know all the specifics of how/why/when this happens)

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kykiske » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:23 pm

I'm probs going to Noodles Co. on Monday and buying some lunch for both days. Most lunch entrees always make me sleepy, except for Noodles Co.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kyle010723 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:32 pm

Holy cow, 45/50 on Mixed Set 5!! Those two buying from a store and burglar/return questions tripped me up. But woah! lol

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kykiske » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:33 pm

kyle010723 wrote:Holy cow, 45/50 on Mixed Set 5!! Those two buying from the store and burglar/return questions tripped me up. But woah! lol


Bro. Nice. Work.

90% correct. That's hella good.

In fact, that has to be near genius level.

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Postby kyle010723 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:37 pm

kykiske wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:Holy cow, 45/50 on Mixed Set 5!! Those two buying from the store and burglar/return questions tripped me up. But woah! lol


Bro. Nice. Work.

90% correct. That's hella good.

In fact, that has to be near genius level.


Hahaha, so tempted to just drop mic for the day. But I better get back to working on those essays.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Good Guy Gaud » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:39 pm

kykiske wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:Holy cow, 45/50 on Mixed Set 5!! Those two buying from the store and burglar/return questions tripped me up. But woah! lol


Bro. Nice. Work.

90% correct. That's hella good.

In fact, that has to be near genius level.


made me lol















but it's true

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kykiske » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:39 pm

kyle010723 wrote:
kykiske wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:Holy cow, 45/50 on Mixed Set 5!! Those two buying from the store and burglar/return questions tripped me up. But woah! lol


Bro. Nice. Work.

90% correct. That's hella good.

In fact, that has to be near genius level.


Hahaha, so tempted to just drop mic for the day. But I better get back to working on those essays.


If you got 90% correct on the real MBE, you could probs just write "There are many legal issues in this question. And I'm sure answers exist to them."

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Good Guy Gaud » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:41 pm

kykiske wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:
kykiske wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:Holy cow, 45/50 on Mixed Set 5!! Those two buying from the store and burglar/return questions tripped me up. But woah! lol


Bro. Nice. Work.

90% correct. That's hella good.

In fact, that has to be near genius level.


Hahaha, so tempted to just drop mic for the day. But I better get back to working on those essays.


If you got 90% correct on the real MBE, you could probs just write "There are many legal issues in this question. And I'm sure answers exist to them."



"The best answer has got to be to contact an attorney who is well-versed in the area"

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kykiske » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:43 pm

Good Guy Gaud wrote:
kykiske wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:
kykiske wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:Holy cow, 45/50 on Mixed Set 5!! Those two buying from the store and burglar/return questions tripped me up. But woah! lol


Bro. Nice. Work.

90% correct. That's hella good.

In fact, that has to be near genius level.


Hahaha, so tempted to just drop mic for the day. But I better get back to working on those essays.


If you got 90% correct on the real MBE, you could probs just write "There are many legal issues in this question. And I'm sure answers exist to them."



"The best answer has got to be to contact an attorney who is well-versed in the area"


"And I hope he/she has more than 30 minutes to answer this question.

Love,

Applicant"

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Good Guy Gaud » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:44 pm

We've all lost our minds

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kyle010723 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:45 pm

kykiske wrote:
Good Guy Gaud wrote:"The best answer has got to be to contact an attorney who is well-versed in the area"


"And I hope he/she has more than 30 minutes to answer this question.

Love,

Applicant"


lol, that essay will surely auto-pass!

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kyle010723 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:46 pm

Good Guy Gaud wrote:We've all lost our minds


You're not drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on. So we haven't lost our minds yet if we can still think we lost our minds!

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kykiske » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:46 pm

kyle010723 wrote:
kykiske wrote:
Good Guy Gaud wrote:"The best answer has got to be to contact an attorney who is well-versed in the area"


"And I hope he/she has more than 30 minutes to answer this question.

Love,

Applicant"


lol, that essay will surely auto-pass!


It's really the use of "love" that makes it an auto pass.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Good Guy Gaud » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:47 pm

Strict liability question:

If someone is aware of an activity/animal being inherently/abnormally dangerous and they take action anyway, assumption of the risk will defeat their claim. However, someone cannot assume the risk when it comes to strict liability w/r/t products liability.

Is this correct?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kyle010723 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:48 pm

Good Guy Gaud wrote:Strict liability question:

If someone is aware of an activity/animal being inherently/abnormally dangerous and they take action anyway, assumption of the risk will defeat their claim. However, someone cannot assume the risk when it comes to strict liability w/r/t products liability.

Is this correct?


Unforeseeable misuse is the closest to AoR in product liability
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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Good Guy Gaud » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:51 pm

kyle010723 wrote:
Good Guy Gaud wrote:Strict liability question:

If someone is aware of an activity/animal being inherently/abnormally dangerous and they take action anyway, assumption of the risk will defeat their claim. However, someone cannot assume the risk when it comes to strict liability w/r/t products liability.

Is this correct?


Misuse is the closest to AoR in product liability



Gotcha. But misuse is tough to prove because foreseeable use is broadly interpreted, yea?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kyle010723 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:53 pm

Good Guy Gaud wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:
Good Guy Gaud wrote:Strict liability question:

If someone is aware of an activity/animal being inherently/abnormally dangerous and they take action anyway, assumption of the risk will defeat their claim. However, someone cannot assume the risk when it comes to strict liability w/r/t products liability.

Is this correct?


Misuse is the closest to AoR in product liability


Gotcha. But misuse is tough to prove because foreseeable use is broadly interpreted, yea?


Yea, but it will be difficult for the bar to give you an ambiguous misuse. Driving a car above speed limit is probably not misuse. Strapping a car to a rocket is probably misuse. You probably wouldn't get a question about whether driving 120 mph is misuse.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Good Guy Gaud » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:54 pm

Awesome. Thanks!

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Tiago Splitter » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:56 pm

So you can assume the risk by, say, jumping in to the tiger cage knowing full well a tiger is in there? Or you can assume the risk by walking in to the blasting site if you know what's there? Just want to make sure I understand.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby robinhoodOO » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:58 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:So you can assume the risk by, say, jumping in to the tiger cage knowing full well a tiger is in there? Or you can assume the risk by walking in to the blasting site if you know what's there? Just want to make sure I understand.


Yes. Requires: (1) Aware of risk, (2) Understood risk, and (3) Assumed (did it regardless) risk




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