BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

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Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:37 pm

Danger Zone wrote:The guy that teaches all the Crim stuff, Kip Cornwell, is by far the worst lecturer yet. Everyone else for New York has been on point.


I think he's great on Crim Pro
The Crim law material is by far the worst (at least for me) so far bc there are so many NY distinctions and the rules seem pretty arbitrary

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Postby Danger Zone » Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:38 pm

I haven't gotten to Crim Pro yet so you could be right, but his style is just awful and boring

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Postby stronitsing » Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:22 pm

rhs100 wrote:Arghh ... anyone else confused with all the different automobile related Crim Pro stuff? Any good way to get over that confusion?


It should be relatively straight forward if you memorize each rule. If they search because it's pursuant to arrest you have one rule, if they search because they have probable cause during the stop it's another rule. Ya know?

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Postby stronitsing » Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:23 pm

Danger Zone wrote:The guy that teaches all the Crim stuff, Kip Cornwell, is by far the worst lecturer yet. Everyone else for New York has been on point.


So much this. As another said I did find he was able to outline the crim pro stuff in a helpful way. But man he's hard to listen to.

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Postby myrtlewinston » Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:30 pm

I think his lecture notes are clear and complete.

Has anyone outlined Civ Pro? I'm having trouble with that subject.

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Postby ash0117 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:39 pm

My best grades in law school were in crim law and crim pro. Yet, so far those are my lowest scores of all with Barbri... Evidence and Civ Pro were mediocre grades in law school, but I'm knocking them out of the park. I'm in FL, not NY, but I just think all the rules blend together no matter what in crim stuff. I've seen that making my own tables and flow charts has helped me.

Any tips for remembering all the K's rules? It was by far my worst grade in law school so I am a bit concerned.

In other news, I got the critical pass flashcards and they arrived in the mail yesterday. THEY ARE AMAZING. I compared them to my outlines and they are nearly identical, and the few things that are missing, I can write in on a card or use one of the extra cards. Naturally, I don't know if they are actually going to help yet, but they saved be a ton of time and are very complete, so I love them already.

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Postby myrtlewinston » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:07 pm

Because Wills is an important subject for us, I decided to study it earlier. The lectures were atrocious - unclear and disorganised. The Trusts one was bad as well. I'm beginning to lose faith in the Barbri lectures.

Sorry for the rant.

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Postby rhs100 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:33 am

How did you all do with the K's essay? I am realizing I hate essays ugh. K's essays could be so open ended too, had trouble figuring out what to talk about and what to leave out.

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Postby bluesnowflake » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:16 pm

Hey all -

Just curious - has anyone found a set of flash cards for the New York subjects that they like, or are there any ways to make making flashcards more efficient that are working for you? Making my own is taking approximately eight times what BarBri allots us for lecture review. (I realize this sounds like a stupid question, but it's really killing me in terms of keeping up. :) )

Thanks!

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Postby kmp127 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:24 pm

bluesnowflake wrote:Hey all -

Just curious - has anyone found a set of flash cards for the New York subjects that they like, or are there any ways to make making flashcards more efficient that are working for you? Making my own is taking approximately eight times what BarBri allots us for lecture review. (I realize this sounds like a stupid question, but it's really killing me in terms of keeping up. :) )

Thanks!


It's taking me FOREVER as well! I got Critical Pass cards, but TX essays are predominantly non-MBE subjects so I had to. I will say this, however, after finishing my cards for Trusts and Estate Administration I went and took the Assessment online and got 80% (that's without ever reading through them again or anything). I like those odds, so re-writing/re-typing is working as a reinforcement tool really well. All that said, I'm working reallyyyy hard on getting faster at it ha

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Postby 941law » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:25 pm

what is the difference between questions via "study smart" and questions via "MPQ," and also where does the barbri app align with all of this? There are sets of MPQ questions on the app as well. My question more specifically is if I do the "MPQ Evidence Set 1" on my ipad via the app, have I completed what they wanted me to do for Evidence Set 1?


*Edit: it appears study smart and MPQ book are not the same thing, so where do the questions from the app generate from?


[Completed]
MPQ: Contracts Set 1 (18 Qs) (in StudySmart) Online Contracts
[Questions]

[In Progress]
MPQ: Evidence Set 2 (18 Qs) (in MPQ Book)
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Postby jas31 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:25 pm

kmp127 wrote:
bluesnowflake wrote:Hey all -

Just curious - has anyone found a set of flash cards for the New York subjects that they like, or are there any ways to make making flashcards more efficient that are working for you? Making my own is taking approximately eight times what BarBri allots us for lecture review. (I realize this sounds like a stupid question, but it's really killing me in terms of keeping up. :) )

Thanks!


It's taking me FOREVER as well! I got Critical Pass cards, but TX essays are predominantly non-MBE subjects so I had to. I will say this, however, after finishing my cards for Trusts and Estate Administration I went and took the Assessment online and got 80% (that's without ever reading through them again or anything). I like those odds, so re-writing/re-typing is working as a reinforcement tool really well. All that said, I'm working reallyyyy hard on getting faster at it ha


I used iFlash on my mac and then synced the cards to my phone using their free app. It helps more than writing it all out.

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Postby ArmyOfficer » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:26 pm

kmp127 wrote:
bluesnowflake wrote:Hey all -

Just curious - has anyone found a set of flash cards for the New York subjects that they like, or are there any ways to make making flashcards more efficient that are working for you? Making my own is taking approximately eight times what BarBri allots us for lecture review. (I realize this sounds like a stupid question, but it's really killing me in terms of keeping up. :) )

Thanks!


It's taking me FOREVER as well! I got Critical Pass cards, but TX essays are predominantly non-MBE subjects so I had to. I will say this, however, after finishing my cards for Trusts and Estate Administration I went and took the Assessment online and got 80% (that's without ever reading through them again or anything). I like those odds, so re-writing/re-typing is working as a reinforcement tool really well. All that said, I'm working reallyyyy hard on getting faster at it ha


How much detail are you putting on your flashcards? Are you just hitting everything from the lecture handouts? Or the CMR?

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Postby kmp127 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:28 pm

ArmyOfficer wrote:
kmp127 wrote:
bluesnowflake wrote:Hey all -

Just curious - has anyone found a set of flash cards for the New York subjects that they like, or are there any ways to make making flashcards more efficient that are working for you? Making my own is taking approximately eight times what BarBri allots us for lecture review. (I realize this sounds like a stupid question, but it's really killing me in terms of keeping up. :) )

Thanks!


It's taking me FOREVER as well! I got Critical Pass cards, but TX essays are predominantly non-MBE subjects so I had to. I will say this, however, after finishing my cards for Trusts and Estate Administration I went and took the Assessment online and got 80% (that's without ever reading through them again or anything). I like those odds, so re-writing/re-typing is working as a reinforcement tool really well. All that said, I'm working reallyyyy hard on getting faster at it ha


How much detail are you putting on your flashcards? Are you just hitting everything from the lecture handouts? Or the CMR?


Oh goodness not the CMR, just the lecture and in a pared down form so I can remember - maybe a few examples too if I can pare them down as well. My goal is to condense it as much as possible so it can fit into this sponge of a brain. The process of paring it down, however is the most beneficial bc it requires me understand it well first. I think that's where I'm taking the most time... but that's a good review isn't it?

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Postby Kage3212 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:59 pm

941law wrote:what is the difference between questions via "study smart" and questions via "MPQ," and also where does the barbri app align with all of this? There are sets of MPQ questions on the app as well. My question more specifically is if I do the "MPQ Evidence Set 1" on my ipad via the app, have I completed what they wanted me to do for Evidence Set 1?


*Edit: it appears study smart and MPQ book are not the same thing, so where do the questions from the app generate from?


[Completed]
MPQ: Contracts Set 1 (18 Qs) (in StudySmart) Online Contracts
[Questions]

[In Progress]
MPQ: Evidence Set 2 (18 Qs) (in MPQ Book)


In the MPQ book, you will see a a set at the very beginning of the the substantive content type with 25 questions. This is the workshop. It does not appear on the studysmart system. However, all of the studysmart sets (these are the sets that are 18 questions each) appear in the MPQ book after the workshop set. They are the same sets. However, if you do them on the studysmart electronic system, they will present them in a different order in the book (look on the electronic system next time and you will see a question number, etc.).

Now for the app. The app has exactly the same sets as the 18 questions studysmart sets, again, which are also found in the book. From what I remember they just mix them all up and they are in no order (but they also have identifiers).

KEY POINT: if you are just goofing around on the app and you SYNC the app to your Studysmart online portal, it will skew your results. For example, I did a few evidence questions prior to the course even starting on the app. After course started, I synced the app. My performance on those questions was calculated into my overall performance on the studysmart app. So if you are just goofing around on app without really thinking too hard, dont sync it. But, note that you will recognize those app questions later because they are the ones contained in 18 question sets.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby ksball02 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:42 pm

Any tips for using time more efficiently in the MPT section? Ya girl is strugglin'.

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Postby Ineedhelpplease » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:03 pm

I just need to vent, so I apologize in advance. I am struggling really bad, I just feel so lost. I work 3 days a week (I know many others go through crazier situations), the personal homework is so much that I have already decided that I am not going to do all of it (haven't decided what not to do), I impulsively purchased Seperac (his advice is good - just really detailed). So utter despair and depression has sinked in.

Anyway thanks and I hope you all are fairing better than I.

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Postby Danger Zone » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:52 pm

Ineedhelpplease wrote:I just need to vent, so I apologize in advance. I am struggling really bad, I just feel so lost. I work 3 days a week (I know many others go through crazier situations), the personal homework is so much that I have already decided that I am not going to do all of it (haven't decided what not to do), I impulsively purchased Seperac (his advice is good - just really detailed). So utter despair and depression has sinked in.

Anyway thanks and I hope you all are fairing better than I.

We aren't even close to the exam date. Go take a day off and have a beer.

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Postby rinkrat19 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:02 pm

Had a friend visiting and then was packing and then moving so I am SOOOOO far behind. I was at 11% completed/15% assigned, now it's at 28% assigned.

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Postby rinkrat19 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:07 pm

Also, where the fuck is the handout for the "Systematic Problem Solving and Multistate Skills Workshop"?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby myrtlewinston » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:11 pm

In the MPT workbook?

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Postby rinkrat19 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:13 pm

myrtlewinston wrote:In the MPT workbook?

No, it's not related to the MPT, it's MBE-related. I can download a PDF of the handout from the link on the video (which is where I can see that it's talking about MBE-type mult choice questions), but I can't find it in a book, and I can't print it because I'm at my dad's house.

And it's not in the MBE book (MPQ) with all the other workshops (intro and subject specific)

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby mushybrain » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:28 pm

These assignments today are garbage. Between a lecture, a CA Performance Test, and other assignments, if I actually did everything (like preparing/reviewing notes) it would come in at 12.5 hours. Seriously? It's June 10!

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Outis Onoma » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:57 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:Had a friend visiting and then was packing and then moving so I am SOOOOO far behind. I was at 11% completed/15% assigned, now it's at 28% assigned.


Similar situation. I moved, now I'm a good 5-6 days behind. I need to figure out what to cut to catch up.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby myrtlewinston » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:36 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:
myrtlewinston wrote:In the MPT workbook?

No, it's not related to the MPT, it's MBE-related. I can download a PDF of the handout from the link on the video (which is where I can see that it's talking about MBE-type mult choice questions), but I can't find it in a book, and I can't print it because I'm at my dad's house.

And it's not in the MBE book (MPQ) with all the other workshops (intro and subject specific)


Oops. I couldn't find it either.




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