BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby N.P.H. » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:36 pm

Did Barbri's half-day MBE and got 59/100.

If I multiply that % by 190, I'm left with 112/190, which (according to some chart from another thread) is a 131.7 scaled.

Should I be worried or am I on pace?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kyle010723 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:45 pm

N.P.H. wrote:Did Barbri's half-day MBE and got 59/100.

If I multiply that % by 190, I'm left with 112/190, which (according to some chart from another thread) is a 131.7 scaled.

Should I be worried or am I on pace?


That is assuming the half day MBE is equally as difficult as the real MBE. The most indicative way of telling where you stand is through the simulated MBE and look at the percentile since you will be compared against everyone else. There is no way for us to objectively compare the difficult of one exam to another. So the best indication would be to see how everyone else's doing on the same test.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby N.P.H. » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:49 pm

kyle010723 wrote:
N.P.H. wrote:Did Barbri's half-day MBE and got 59/100.

If I multiply that % by 190, I'm left with 112/190, which (according to some chart from another thread) is a 131.7 scaled.

Should I be worried or am I on pace?


That is assuming the half day MBE is equally as difficult as the real MBE. The most indicative way of telling where you stand is through the simulated MBE and look at the percentile since you will be compared against everyone else. There is no way for us to objectively compare the difficult of one exam to another. So the best indication would be to see how everyone else's doing on the same test.


That's fair. I'm not sure Barbri even assigns the half-day so I have no idea where to submit my results

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby diowad » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:50 pm

Ludacrispat26 wrote:This may be asking a bit much, but what raw % should we really feel safe at on the MBE? I feel like ~65% is the cutoff?


Depends how much the MBE counts for and what the pass rate is in your state since it's scaled. But generally yes, 66% is generally close to the safe zone. That's 132 raw, which is generally at the 50th percentile and for those of us in a 50% MBE state, that usually means your essays have to be better than about 5% of the other test takers, which is basically a given if you did that well on the MBE.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby victortsoi » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:58 pm

I only did two mixed sets, got 72% on both of them. My overall mpq average in barbri is 58%, and percentiles range from 30-75 depending on the subject. A few in the 40s and a few in the 60s. Dont know what to think.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby RaleighStClair » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:09 pm

victortsoi wrote:just did the 21 q ncbex set, did worse than on the barbri mixed sets. what gives? is that representative?


FWIW I did poorly on those too. I think 12/21 or something.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby victortsoi » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:10 pm

RaleighStClair wrote:
victortsoi wrote:just did the 21 q ncbex set, did worse than on the barbri mixed sets. what gives? is that representative?


FWIW I did poorly on those too. I think 12/21 or something.



please tell me the consensus is those were abnormally hard

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Kage3212 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:12 pm

N.P.H. wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:
N.P.H. wrote:Did Barbri's half-day MBE and got 59/100.

If I multiply that % by 190, I'm left with 112/190, which (according to some chart from another thread) is a 131.7 scaled.

Should I be worried or am I on pace?


That is assuming the half day MBE is equally as difficult as the real MBE. The most indicative way of telling where you stand is through the simulated MBE and look at the percentile since you will be compared against everyone else. There is no way for us to objectively compare the difficult of one exam to another. So the best indication would be to see how everyone else's doing on the same test.


That's fair. I'm not sure Barbri even assigns the half-day so I have no idea where to submit my results


50th percentile of Barbri takers for the half-day exam s 60% correct. That information comes from the front of the MBE Practice Question book.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby N.P.H. » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:17 pm

Kage3212 wrote:50th percentile of Barbri takers for the half-day exam s 60% correct. That information comes from the front of the MBE Practice Question book.


Thanks for the help! I emailed Barbri and they just told me that it was self-graded and there was no way to compare. *sigh

Doublesigh at my score when I'm averaging 65-80% in all subjects on practice questions

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby nutella123 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:31 pm

Sorry about the stupid question....I've been away. What was the average or mean score for the simulated MBE?

And how screwed am I if I got an even 100?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby diowad » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:36 pm

nutella123 wrote:Sorry about the stupid question....I've been away. What was the average or mean score for the simulated MBE?

And how screwed am I if I got an even 100?


Don't sweat it brah. Find the two or three crappiest subjects you had and hit em hard. I got a 104, but then followed it up with a 69/100 on the half-day exam, which is fine. Probably too late in the game to order Emanuel and have it arrive in time, but just keep with it. Based on what I've done on Emanuel so far, Barbri's claim that your final MBE score will be at least 15-20 points higher than your Barbri midterm seems accurate.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby bear patrol » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:59 pm

The Barbri effect applied to me for sure - got a 102 on the Simulated MBE and 1 week later got a 127 on the Emanuel practice MBE. About a 12% jump.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Andrews989 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:12 pm

Did anyone buy the mini review? How was/is it?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby myrtlewinston » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:21 pm

Andrews989 wrote:Did anyone buy the mini review? How was/is it?


Although I vowed to not give Barbri a single cent more, I caved. It's good. Guzman teaches the whole thing and narrows down what you have to remember.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kyle010723 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:34 pm

errr, got pwned by Emanuael's civ pro with a 20% drop from my MPQ average... anyone else did those by any chance?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby musicfor18 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:41 pm

myrtlewinston wrote:
Andrews989 wrote:Did anyone buy the mini review? How was/is it?


Although I vowed to not give Barbri a single cent more, I caved. It's good. Guzman teaches the whole thing and narrows down what you have to remember.


If you're in NY, the mini-review includes the major NY subjects, and the whole thing is taught by Reuscher (not Guzman). Just FYI.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby nutella123 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:42 pm

diowad wrote:
nutella123 wrote:Sorry about the stupid question....I've been away. What was the average or mean score for the simulated MBE?

And how screwed am I if I got an even 100?


Don't sweat it brah. Find the two or three crappiest subjects you had and hit em hard. I got a 104, but then followed it up with a 69/100 on the half-day exam, which is fine. Probably too late in the game to order Emanuel and have it arrive in time, but just keep with it. Based on what I've done on Emanuel so far, Barbri's claim that your final MBE score will be at least 15-20 points higher than your Barbri midterm seems accurate.



Thanks.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kykiske » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:04 pm

Is there such thing as a "safe" score on the MBE?

By that I mean, if you get [x] score, and don't bomb the MEE and the MPT, you'll pass in most jurisdictions.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Good Guy Gaud » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:08 pm

You know, it must have been pretty easy to get away with crimes in COMMON LAW ENGLAND, eh?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby brotherdarkness » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:17 pm

kykiske wrote:Is there such thing as a "safe" score on the MBE?

By that I mean, if you get [x] score, and don't bomb the MEE and the MPT, you'll pass in most jurisdictions.


190 raw and it should be smooth sailing.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Good Guy Gaud » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:19 pm

brotherdarkness wrote:
kykiske wrote:Is there such thing as a "safe" score on the MBE?

By that I mean, if you get [x] score, and don't bomb the MEE and the MPT, you'll pass in most jurisdictions.


190 raw and it should be smooth sailing.


:lol:

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kyle010723 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:20 pm

brotherdarkness wrote:
kykiske wrote:Is there such thing as a "safe" score on the MBE?

By that I mean, if you get [x] score, and don't bomb the MEE and the MPT, you'll pass in most jurisdictions.


190 raw and it should be smooth sailing.


180

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby BearState » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:28 pm

Good Guy Gaud wrote:You know, it must have been pretty easy to get away with crimes in COMMON LAW ENGLAND, eh?


just do burglary at day bro

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Danger Zone » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:31 pm

musicfor18 wrote:
myrtlewinston wrote:
Andrews989 wrote:Did anyone buy the mini review? How was/is it?


Although I vowed to not give Barbri a single cent more, I caved. It's good. Guzman teaches the whole thing and narrows down what you have to remember.


If you're in NY, the mini-review includes the major NY subjects, and the whole thing is taught by Reuscher (not Guzman). Just FYI.

Worth it?

How much content is there?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby myrtlewinston » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:39 pm

musicfor18 wrote:
myrtlewinston wrote:
Andrews989 wrote:Did anyone buy the mini review? How was/is it?


Although I vowed to not give Barbri a single cent more, I caved. It's good. Guzman teaches the whole thing and narrows down what you have to remember.


If you're in NY, the mini-review includes the major NY subjects, and the whole thing is taught by Reuscher (not Guzman). Just FYI.


I am in NY. There are 2 mini-reviews. One for the MBE, and one for the NY subjects. The former is taught by Guzman and the latter is taught by Ruescher.




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