BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby jamescastle » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:16 pm

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myrtlewinston wrote:I can't see the comments on my essay, even though I've updated Adobe as the Barbri tech suggested. Does anyone have any suggestions?
:?:
My first essay came back as a word doc with comments.

I submitted as a pdf. My review came back as a pdf with sticky comments and highlights and then a box at the end with overall comments.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby musicfor18 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:22 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:Do the mnemonics help anyone? I am no more likely to remember CCC BoND in connection with strict products liability (and what each letter stands for) than I am to just remember the list of things it's supposed to help me remember.


No. Like another poster said, I do use BRAKES and MIMIC, and that's about it. I know BARRK is one of them because of that funny guy who kept saying it in the MBE Crim Law Workshop video, but I can never remember what it's used for (Burglary, Arson, Robbery, Rape, Kidnapping, but what is the relevance of this list?)

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby EvelynS » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:25 pm

Property MBE makes me so hopeless. I really suck at it...big time. Getting only 30%-40% correct. Do you think it is possible to still get a decent MBE score considering I score within 65%-80% (by that i mean the % of correct answers) on all other subjects. Whenever I see a property question, I am about to cry. Hate this subject and hated it even when was a 1L (not that it matters to bar examiners. lol).

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby myrtlewinston » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:27 pm

jamescastle wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:
myrtlewinston wrote:I can't see the comments on my essay, even though I've updated Adobe as the Barbri tech suggested. Does anyone have any suggestions?
:?:
My first essay came back as a word doc with comments.

I submitted as a pdf. My review came back as a pdf with sticky comments and highlights and then a box at the end with overall comments.


So did I! I called tech support. The guy e-mailed it to me as an attachment. Useful comments this time.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby murray18 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:29 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:Do the mnemonics help anyone? I am no more likely to remember CCC BoND in connection with strict products liability (and what each letter stands for) than I am to just remember the list of things it's supposed to help me remember.


I agree with you for the most part, but I do use MIMIC and MY LEGS (for statute of frauds). I also remember the dumb "it takes two" thing for easements appurtenant.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby 3|ink » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:30 pm

Comparing my commercial paper lecture notes to the CMR. WTF? I know the lecturers like to gloss over things, but holy hell Paula.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:35 pm

EvelynS wrote:Property MBE makes me so hopeless. I really suck at it...big time. Getting only 30%-40% correct. Do you think it is possible to still get a decent MBE score considering I score within 65%-80% (by that i mean the % of correct answers) on all other subjects. Whenever I see a property question, I am about to cry. Hate this subject and hated it even when was a 1L (not that it matters to bar examiners. lol).


If you are scoring like that on MBE do not sweat property. You will be fine. Focus on state specific stuff.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby myrtlewinston » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:53 pm

For NY essays, is the score raw or scaled?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:06 pm

myrtlewinston wrote:For NY essays, is the score raw or scaled?


If someone can explain how the ny score is calculated (total score) I'd appreciate it very much.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby RaleighStClair » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:23 pm

Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:
EvelynS wrote:Property MBE makes me so hopeless. I really suck at it...big time. Getting only 30%-40% correct. Do you think it is possible to still get a decent MBE score considering I score within 65%-80% (by that i mean the % of correct answers) on all other subjects. Whenever I see a property question, I am about to cry. Hate this subject and hated it even when was a 1L (not that it matters to bar examiners. lol).


If you are scoring like that on MBE do not sweat property. You will be fine. Focus on state specific stuff.


What kind of a state are you taking in?

I'm in a similar boat, but I'm going to keep plugging away at property. Since it's fair game on the MEE and is a significant part of the MBE, I think it's worth the effort. Try to focus on the particular areas that are giving you the most trouble. For me, all of them are, haha, but I definitely have the biggest problem with present and future interests. The past couple days I've devoted a substantial amount of time to easements/equitable servitudes and I definitely noticed a difference.

Good luck!!

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby 3|ink » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:29 pm

I have a commercial paper question. A check dated three months into the future can qualify as a negotiable instrument, right? One of barbri's model essay answers says that a check made out to the IRS postdated 3 months cannot be a valid obligation. They don't really go into why not.

I fucking hate barbri so much right now.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby RaleighStClair » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:52 pm

Just did the Crim Law essay 3 (dude who shot his friend in the chair on a hunting trip). God...I hope an essay on the actual exam is as easy as that one.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby EvelynS » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:09 pm

RaleighStClair wrote:
Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:
EvelynS wrote:Property MBE makes me so hopeless. I really suck at it...big time. Getting only 30%-40% correct. Do you think it is possible to still get a decent MBE score considering I score within 65%-80% (by that i mean the % of correct answers) on all other subjects. Whenever I see a property question, I am about to cry. Hate this subject and hated it even when was a 1L (not that it matters to bar examiners. lol).


If you are scoring like that on MBE do not sweat property. You will be fine. Focus on state specific stuff.


What kind of a state are you taking in?

I'm in a similar boat, but I'm going to keep plugging away at property. Since it's fair game on the MEE and is a significant part of the MBE, I think it's worth the effort. Try to focus on the particular areas that are giving you the most trouble. For me, all of them are, haha, but I definitely have the biggest problem with present and future interests. The past couple days I've devoted a substantial amount of time to easements/equitable servitudes and I definitely noticed a difference.

Good luck!!


I am in NY. So my MBE is worth 40%. I do think that property is pretty frequent on the essay portion, but not as frequent as Ks, Torts, Domestic Relations, Wills, and NY Practice. And like you I struggle with anything related to property, except maybe for L/T law or some parts of tenancy. But I will keep practicing nevertheless. Getting even one extra point may be helpful on the actual test.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby victortsoi » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:23 pm

so who thinks they'll reject my essay if i send it in at 1 am?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby BVest » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:33 pm

That Property MPQ 5: WTF? There's no way any of the real MBE property questions are as difficult as the easiest of that set.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby goaheadualright » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:07 am

musicfor18 wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:Do the mnemonics help anyone? I am no more likely to remember CCC BoND in connection with strict products liability (and what each letter stands for) than I am to just remember the list of things it's supposed to help me remember.


No. Like another poster said, I do use BRAKES and MIMIC, and that's about it. I know BARRK is one of them because of that funny guy who kept saying it in the MBE Crim Law Workshop video, but I can never remember what it's used for (Burglary, Arson, Robbery, Rape, Kidnapping, but what is the relevance of this list?)


I think felony murder crimes?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby LawGuy321 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:09 am

Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:Do the mnemonics help anyone? I am no more likely to remember CCC BoND in connection with strict products liability (and what each letter stands for) than I am to just remember the list of things it's supposed to help me remember.


The only ones I use are BRAKES (felony murder) and MIMIC (hearsay).


I use BARRK for that, ha! What's the "E" in BRAKES?

For the record, I occasionally think "MYLEGS" for when SoF applies, and then I have also used ENDCRAMP for how to end an easement. That's the only new one I really took away from Franzese's lecture -- she has so many it was overwhelming, but I'm considering going back and grabbing a few more. I do think they help with essays for the elements.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby LawGuy321 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:14 am

goaheadualright wrote:
musicfor18 wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:Do the mnemonics help anyone? I am no more likely to remember CCC BoND in connection with strict products liability (and what each letter stands for) than I am to just remember the list of things it's supposed to help me remember.


No. Like another poster said, I do use BRAKES and MIMIC, and that's about it. I know BARRK is one of them because of that funny guy who kept saying it in the MBE Crim Law Workshop video, but I can never remember what it's used for (Burglary, Arson, Robbery, Rape, Kidnapping, but what is the relevance of this list?)


I think felony murder crimes?


Yeah, it's the list of crimes always considered "dangerous felonies" at common law for felony murder. I thought BRAKES was also for that, but don't know where the "E" is coming from -- if that's not the same thing, what is BRAKES for?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Devlin » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:16 am

victortsoi wrote:so who thinks they'll reject my essay if i send it in at 1 am?

I'm sure starting tomorrow FOR JUST $99.99 you can have UNLIMITED essay review!

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby RaleighStClair » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:18 am

LawGuy321 wrote:
goaheadualright wrote:
musicfor18 wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:Do the mnemonics help anyone? I am no more likely to remember CCC BoND in connection with strict products liability (and what each letter stands for) than I am to just remember the list of things it's supposed to help me remember.


No. Like another poster said, I do use BRAKES and MIMIC, and that's about it. I know BARRK is one of them because of that funny guy who kept saying it in the MBE Crim Law Workshop video, but I can never remember what it's used for (Burglary, Arson, Robbery, Rape, Kidnapping, but what is the relevance of this list?)


I think felony murder crimes?


Yeah, it's the list of crimes always considered "dangerous felonies" at common law for felony murder. I thought BRAKES was also for that, but don't know where the "E" is coming from -- if that's not the same thing, what is BRAKES for?


Not sure if you have another one for BRAKES. But for felony murder I use BARKRE; under the MPC, it's the ones listed above as well as "Felonious Escape."

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby myrtlewinston » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:39 am

Devlin wrote:
victortsoi wrote:so who thinks they'll reject my essay if i send it in at 1 am?

I'm sure starting tomorrow FOR JUST $99.99 you can have UNLIMITED essay review!


Good one! Barbri will not get another cent out of me.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby BVest » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:55 am

RaleighStClair wrote:Not sure if you have another one for BRAKES. But for felony murder I use BARKRE; under the MPC, it's the ones listed above as well as "Felonious Escape."


Why not BARKER?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby 3|ink » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:58 am

MADFIFIIII

I forget what it means. Something about defenses.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby gmail » Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:08 am

Here's a fun thing to do. Get not-sober and watch Real Property III at .75x

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby victortsoi » Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:36 am

3|ink wrote:MADFIFIIII

I forget what it means. Something about defenses.


sucks that fifi isn't a crim law mnemonic.




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