BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Kage3212 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:34 pm

Good Guy Gaud wrote:
dwyf wrote:http://abovethelaw.com/2013/09/whats-the-best-predictor-of-bar-exam-success-its-not-the-lsat/


maybe give us a summary?


Law School Grades best indicator --> Law school grades indicate an individual's ability to effectively accomplish "information prioritization --> Seems to be saying if you know what to look for in these MBE questions and can separate the misc. information from that, you win. Your ability to do that on law school exams is presumably a fair indication of that.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby RaleighStClair » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:37 pm

Anyone know of a good source for MEE flash cards (specifically trusts, wills, corps, secured transactions, familiy law)? I got the Critical Pass for MBE and they're great. But idk about MEE. The Law in a Flash cards are like 30-35 bucks PER SUBJECT. That's robbery (taking away of personal property from the person of another by use of force or intimidation with the intent to deprive the person of the property permanently). Fuck me.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Good Guy Gaud » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:55 pm

RaleighStClair wrote:Anyone know of a good source for MEE flash cards (specifically trusts, wills, corps, secured transactions, familiy law)? I got the Critical Pass for MBE and they're great. But idk about MEE. The Law in a Flash cards are like 30-35 bucks PER SUBJECT. That's robbery (taking away of personal property from the person of another by use of force or intimidation with the intent to deprive the person of the property permanently). Fuck me.


well played

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby AReasonableMan » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:13 pm

Kage3212 wrote:
Good Guy Gaud wrote:
dwyf wrote:http://abovethelaw.com/2013/09/whats-the-best-predictor-of-bar-exam-success-its-not-the-lsat/


maybe give us a summary?


Law School Grades best indicator --> Law school grades indicate an individual's ability to effectively accomplish "information prioritization --> Seems to be saying if you know what to look for in these MBE questions and can separate the misc. information from that, you win. Your ability to do that on law school exams is presumably a fair indication of that.

could also be it's the same subjects being tested, and these people already did well in these subjects on tests.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Tiago Splitter » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:59 pm

My friend here is absolutely beat after a long day of bar study:

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby dwyf » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:08 am

AReasonableMan wrote:
Kage3212 wrote:
Good Guy Gaud wrote:
dwyf wrote:http://abovethelaw.com/2013/09/whats-the-best-predictor-of-bar-exam-success-its-not-the-lsat/


maybe give us a summary?


Law School Grades best indicator --> Law school grades indicate an individual's ability to effectively accomplish "information prioritization --> Seems to be saying if you know what to look for in these MBE questions and can separate the misc. information from that, you win. Your ability to do that on law school exams is presumably a fair indication of that.

could also be it's the same subjects being tested, and these people already did well in these subjects on tests.


and/or they're the kind of people who dedicate themselves to this shit and get done what they need to.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Good Guy Gaud » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:17 am

Tiago, I have similar friends but mine are more in the anti-studying boat (ie., they try to eat the book)

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby old_soul » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:19 am

Mixed Set 3 -- 32/50. 25 mins left over.

On one hand, I think I need to just slow down, on the other, I find that I also freak out on qs when I take a long time, almost like the proportion of time is negatively correlated with accuracy after a certain point.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby jamescastle » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:10 am

if anyone wants to feel better about themselves i got a 98/200 on the mbe today...

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Postby Blue Ivy » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:19 am

Did any of you take the 200 Qs without having really studied a couple topics? I had just studied evidence prior to taking it and got like 1/3 of the Evidence Qs wrong. Definitely took a hit overall because of that.

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Postby Blue Ivy » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:22 am

jamescastle wrote:if anyone wants to feel better about themselves i got a 98/200 on the mbe today...


Don't let that get you down. We have 3 weeks. That's plenty of time to improve. We just have to pass this shit, not blow it out of the water.

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Postby 3|ink » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:25 am

Blue Ivy wrote:Did any of you take the 200 Qs without having really studied a couple topics? I had just studied evidence prior to taking it and got like 1/3 of the Evidence Qs wrong. Definitely took a hit overall because of that.

Yeah I definitely took a hit on property and criminal law, which I haven't studied in weeks. But my worst score was contracts, and I re-read my 30 page outline the night before.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Good Guy Gaud » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:27 am

When I went through the review (we took the midterm two-ish weeks ago) I remember seeing a lot of silly mistakes and also a handful of questions on topics that I simply had not learned yet. Wouldn't be surprised if you guys have similar experiences, particularly with some of the nuanced questions.

Oh, BarBri.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby 3|ink » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:27 am

jamescastle wrote:if anyone wants to feel better about themselves i got a 98/200 on the mbe today...

Sorry man.

There's still plenty of time to catch up. I'm just freaking out over my score because I was hoping to devote the next three weeks to the state topics, which I have shamelessly neglected.

I've written like 6 essays. I have my own self-made outlines for each, but I have not internalized any of it.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Blue Ivy » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:32 am

3|ink wrote:
Blue Ivy wrote:Did any of you take the 200 Qs without having really studied a couple topics? I had just studied evidence prior to taking it and got like 1/3 of the Evidence Qs wrong. Definitely took a hit overall because of that.

Yeah I definitely took a hit on property and criminal law, which I haven't studied in weeks. But my worst score was contracts, and I re-read my 30 page outline the night before.


Same here on Contracts. I had started to feel better about it after struggling with some problem sets earlier, but not today.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby old_soul » Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:18 am

FYI -- Watching Guzman's Evidence, and loving the clarity. My plan is to take either 1 or 2 MBE videos a day for review, space it out a little to internalize.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby 3LOL717 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:30 am

Also figured I'd help calm a lot of people's nerves - 95/200. Any hope or time to pack it in?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby dwyf » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:03 am

I got a little nostalgic yesterday when I broke out my favorite #2 pencil for the first time since the LSAT. I'd take that test over this any day of the week.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby bstefans1 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:08 am

Nah it's not time to pack it in. It's time to commit yourself and do the necessary work.

I know people who got low 90's on simulated MBE and got 135+ on real MBE. I know someone who got a 140 after getting a 73. I also know someone who had a 38 (LOL) on the simulated and passed the Bar.

I suggest critical pass to people struggling. Just make sure you commit to studying a topic or two a day, really understanding and memorizing, and then doing practice MBE questions on that topic. Since it is a little late in the game, I suggest also doing a NY subject at night as well. If you stick to this and don't half ass it, you'll be fine.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby murray18 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:17 am

3LOL717 wrote:Also figured I'd help calm a lot of people's nerves - 95/200. Any hope or time to pack it in?


For some perspective, my understanding is that over half is acceptable on the simulated, so you're not necessarily in hot water. Hunker down and figure out why you missed the ones you missed and get back to it. Can't stop won't stop.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby rickgrimes69 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:21 am

bstefans1 wrote: I also know someone who had a 38 (LOL) on the simulated and passed the Bar.


How... is that even possible? You should be able to score higher than that by drawing a dick with your scantron bubbles randomly guessing

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby charlesxavier » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:53 am

Evidence MBE Review with Guzman: "You probably missed it because you forgot this part of the rule, fell into this trap, or didn't notice this issue. Here are some tips and a mini-review to help you out..."

Property MBE Review with Shonholtz: "You missed it because you chose the wrong answer."

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Devlin » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:54 am

bstefans1 wrote:Nah it's not time to pack it in. It's time to commit yourself and do the necessary work.

I know people who got low 90's on simulated MBE and got 135+ on real MBE. I know someone who got a 140 after getting a 73. I also know someone who had a 38 (LOL) on the simulated and passed the Bar.

I suggest critical pass to people struggling. Just make sure you commit to studying a topic or two a day, really understanding and memorizing, and then doing practice MBE questions on that topic. Since it is a little late in the game, I suggest also doing a NY subject at night as well. If you stick to this and don't half ass it, you'll be fine.

I got 140/200. Most of my MBE study has come from critical pass.

Also, I have started to rely on the short outlines posted on Stanford's website. Someone posted them in another thread a week ago. Each MBE subject is around 6K words and right on point with only the rules.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby 3LOL717 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:54 am

bstefans1 wrote:Nah it's not time to pack it in. It's time to commit yourself and do the necessary work.

I know people who got low 90's on simulated MBE and got 135+ on real MBE. I know someone who got a 140 after getting a 73. I also know someone who had a 38 (LOL) on the simulated and passed the Bar.

I suggest critical pass to people struggling. Just make sure you commit to studying a topic or two a day, really understanding and memorizing, and then doing practice MBE questions on that topic. Since it is a little late in the game, I suggest also doing a NY subject at night as well. If you stick to this and don't half ass it, you'll be fine.



Thanks for this, really made me feel semi decent. Honestly was probably a little too cocky in thinking the answers would just "come to me" when I was taking the test. Time to start memorizing, thanks for the support!

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby BVest » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:00 am

Devlin wrote:.

Also, I have started to rely on the short outlines posted on Stanford's website. Someone posted them in another thread a week ago. Each MBE subject is around 6K words and right on point with only the rules.[/quote]

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