BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby RaleighStClair » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:51 pm

kykiske wrote:
Can someone help me better understand why (B) is correct over (A)?


Did the question indicate whether it was a residential lease or commercial lease?

If commercial --> Tenant held to new year to year tenancy if original lease term was one year or more; or periodic based on terms if the lease was less than one year.

If residential --> Tenant held to month to month tenancy, regardless of how long the previous term was.

Sounds like this question was likely a residential lease.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kykiske » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:57 pm

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kykiske wrote:I'm reviewing some property MBEs, and am hoping for some clarification.

Here's an example: Landlord and Tenant enter into a 2-year lease agreement, with rent--say $1,000--due the first of every month. Before the current lease expires, Landlord informs Tenant that the monthly rent will increase to $1,500. Tenant remains silent, and the lease expires. In month 25, Tenant remains on the premises. Landlord does not evict the Tenant, but demands that Tenant pay the increased monthly rent. Tenant refuses to pay.

Question asks "what best explains the legal nature of the current lease between Landlord and Tenant?"

Because the Landlord informed the Tenant about the rent increase, I knew that the answer would have to include the higher rent value.

So, I narrowed it down to two choices:

(A) Landlord and Tenant have a year-to-year lease for $1,500 per month.
(B) Landlord and Tenant have a month-to-month lease for $1,500 per month.

I thought the answer was (A) because the Tenant is now considered a "holdover" Tenant. Thus, the Landlord's and the Tenant's new lease would mirror their old lease, but with the higher rent value.

Barbri said the answer was (B) because most courts would only impose only a month-to-month lease at $1,500. But the explanatory answer was not very useful.

Can someone help me better understand why (B) is correct over (A)?


It is because it is a residential lease. Courts will find month-to-month for residential leases, but year-to-year for commercial leases that are longer than a year.


Wow, thanks. Such a simple explanation, yet Barbri's explanatory answer lacked such simplicity.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby kmp127 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:03 pm

ArmyOfficer wrote:
kykiske wrote:I'm reviewing some property MBEs, and am hoping for some clarification.

Here's an example: Landlord and Tenant enter into a 2-year lease agreement, with rent--say $1,000--due the first of every month. Before the current lease expires, Landlord informs Tenant that the monthly rent will increase to $1,500. Tenant remains silent, and the lease expires. In month 25, Tenant remains on the premises. Landlord does not evict the Tenant, but demands that Tenant pay the increased monthly rent. Tenant refuses to pay.

Question asks "what best explains the legal nature of the current lease between Landlord and Tenant?"

Because the Landlord informed the Tenant about the rent increase, I knew that the answer would have to include the higher rent value.

So, I narrowed it down to two choices:

(A) Landlord and Tenant have a year-to-year lease for $1,500 per month.
(B) Landlord and Tenant have a month-to-month lease for $1,500 per month.

I thought the answer was (A) because the Tenant is now considered a "holdover" Tenant. Thus, the Landlord's and the Tenant's new lease would mirror their old lease, but with the higher rent value.

Barbri said the answer was (B) because most courts would only impose only a month-to-month lease at $1,500. But the explanatory answer was not very useful.

Can someone help me better understand why (B) is correct over (A)?


It is because it is a residential lease. Courts will find month-to-month for residential leases, but year-to-year for commercial leases that are longer than a year.


My notes also say that they'll look to what frequency the tenant was paying (per month vs. per year) despite the length of the lease. Here, you're facts tell you that detail of when rent's due, 1st of the month.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby BearState » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:12 pm

Hey all. Does anyone have an idea what kind of raw score on the full simulated MBE is enough to feel comfortable with progress? I'm in a UBE jdx if it matters.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby ArmyOfficer » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:35 pm

kmp127 wrote:
ArmyOfficer wrote:
kykiske wrote:I'm reviewing some property MBEs, and am hoping for some clarification.

Here's an example: Landlord and Tenant enter into a 2-year lease agreement, with rent--say $1,000--due the first of every month. Before the current lease expires, Landlord informs Tenant that the monthly rent will increase to $1,500. Tenant remains silent, and the lease expires. In month 25, Tenant remains on the premises. Landlord does not evict the Tenant, but demands that Tenant pay the increased monthly rent. Tenant refuses to pay.

Question asks "what best explains the legal nature of the current lease between Landlord and Tenant?"

Because the Landlord informed the Tenant about the rent increase, I knew that the answer would have to include the higher rent value.

So, I narrowed it down to two choices:

(A) Landlord and Tenant have a year-to-year lease for $1,500 per month.
(B) Landlord and Tenant have a month-to-month lease for $1,500 per month.

I thought the answer was (A) because the Tenant is now considered a "holdover" Tenant. Thus, the Landlord's and the Tenant's new lease would mirror their old lease, but with the higher rent value.

Barbri said the answer was (B) because most courts would only impose only a month-to-month lease at $1,500. But the explanatory answer was not very useful.

Can someone help me better understand why (B) is correct over (A)?


It is because it is a residential lease. Courts will find month-to-month for residential leases, but year-to-year for commercial leases that are longer than a year.


My notes also say that they'll look to what frequency the tenant was paying (per month vs. per year) despite the length of the lease. Here, you're facts tell you that detail of when rent's due, 1st of the month.


They look to frequency of when rent is due if it is a commercial lease and the original term is for less than a year.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby soj » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:38 pm

BearState wrote:Hey all. Does anyone have an idea what kind of raw score on the full simulated MBE is enough to feel comfortable with progress? I'm in a UBE jdx if it matters.

about 156
jk

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:48 pm

For people taking the simulated MBE at Javits: silly question but if you show up without the scantron can you still take it? (I assume they have extras). I lost mine moving, emailed Barbri and have not gotten a response.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby rinkrat19 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:50 pm

I think I've asked a variation on this but didn't see an answer: Where, if anywhere, does Barbri use real past exam questions? Or are they 100% overly complex invented questions?

I woke up with a splitting headache and all the migraine meds in the world aren't doing much, so I may be pretty much useless today. It's almost 2pm and I haven't managed to do anything besides get dressed and eat cereal so far. :?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby diowad » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:54 pm

Put in an order for Emmanuel MBE today so hopefully will receive it after the holiday. Also just pushing through my remaining lectures before the holiday break. Then I'm planning to get into a daily regimen with a goal of 40-50 multiple choice questions and 3 essays, and then at least 2-3 MPT's a week. And then fill the rest of my time reviewing answers. I figure that should be plenty to fill my days until the exam.

I'm really curious to see how I do on Emmanuel's questions. I'm getting bent over by Barbri. Have been hovering in the 40th percentiles in most subjects except really low in Crim (like 25th) and really high in Torts (like 80th), so I'm just all over the place.
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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby dwyf » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:54 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
gmail wrote:What speed do y'all do the lectures at? Usually I do 1.5x, but sometimes I slam a red bull and do 1.75

Always 2

+1

Once I started doing it, I haven't been able to go back. Am toying with going beyond 2. Let's push boundaries together.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:57 pm

dwyf wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
gmail wrote:What speed do y'all do the lectures at? Usually I do 1.5x, but sometimes I slam a red bull and do 1.75

Always 2

+1

Once I started doing it, I haven't been able to go back. Am toying with going beyond 2. Let's push boundaries together.

If I could do it easily I'd go beyond 2 for sure. All we're really doing is waiting for them to fill in the blanks.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby rinkrat19 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:00 pm

Anyone consider the Goat book instead of Emanuel? It includes CivPro, which Emanual doesn't, and supposedly included free online access to 1200 more real questions.
http://www.amazon.com/Multistate-Goat-E ... cedure+mbe

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby N.P.H. » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:04 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
dwyf wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
gmail wrote:What speed do y'all do the lectures at? Usually I do 1.5x, but sometimes I slam a red bull and do 1.75

Always 2

+1

Once I started doing it, I haven't been able to go back. Am toying with going beyond 2. Let's push boundaries together.

If I could do it easily I'd go beyond 2 for sure. All we're really doing is waiting for them to fill in the blanks.


To get past 2x on chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... gocg?hl=en


To get to 2x on android (also lets you shut off your screen while listening): https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... er.a&hl=en

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:07 pm

Oh man game changer

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby lostinarkansas » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:08 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:Anyone consider the Goat book instead of Emanuel? It includes CivPro, which Emanual doesn't, and supposedly included free online access to 1200 more real questions.
http://www.amazon.com/Multistate-Goat-E ... cedure+mbe


I got Emanuel's Strategies & Tactics for the MBE and it included a card with a website/code to go online and do the Civ Pro. Haven't tried it yet though.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Kage3212 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:33 pm

soj wrote:
BearState wrote:Hey all. Does anyone have an idea what kind of raw score on the full simulated MBE is enough to feel comfortable with progress? I'm in a UBE jdx if it matters.

about 156
jk


I think this is highly inaccurate. I have a hard time envisioning "comfortable" as 99.9 percentile.

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Postby soj » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:36 pm

Kage3212 wrote:
soj wrote:
BearState wrote:Hey all. Does anyone have an idea what kind of raw score on the full simulated MBE is enough to feel comfortable with progress? I'm in a UBE jdx if it matters.

about 156
jk


I think this is highly inaccurate. I have a hard time envisioning "comfortable" as 99.9 percentile.

i know. srsly i think at this point 60% would be comfortable. obviously you're gonna get better in the coming weeks

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Postby old_soul » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:37 pm

Hi all,

Just feeling discouraged and overwhelmed with the amount of info I have to process and memorize. I feel ok about the MBE, but I am getting 3/10 on Essays, not able to articulate the rules. :cry: I just feel doomed but also know that there are 27 days till my Essay exam. Is this enough time to build myself up to 6s and 7s? And if so, how considering the time constraints? :cry: Any input would be welcome.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby Kage3212 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:40 pm

soj wrote:
Kage3212 wrote:
soj wrote:
BearState wrote:Hey all. Does anyone have an idea what kind of raw score on the full simulated MBE is enough to feel comfortable with progress? I'm in a UBE jdx if it matters.

about 156
jk


I think this is highly inaccurate. I have a hard time envisioning "comfortable" as 99.9 percentile.

i know. srsly i think at this point 60% would be comfortable. obviously you're gonna get better in the coming weeks


Ah, may have missed the sarcasm of the arbitrary number. To be real though, Barbri book states 50 percent of test takers score 123 on the exam. If you are at the level or above your are in good shape it seems.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby BearState » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:02 pm

soj wrote:
BearState wrote:Hey all. Does anyone have an idea what kind of raw score on the full simulated MBE is enough to feel comfortable with progress? I'm in a UBE jdx if it matters.

about 156
jk


its ok, i deserved this soj

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby mtyler19 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:46 pm

Starting to freak out. The wills & trusts/estates lecturer was awful for TX and I'm still struggling to learn it overall. I've tried picking out rule statements from answers but its not helping me understand the big picture like the rest of the lectures have done for me. Can anyone suggest a quick way to learn it outside of barbri? Planning on going through the materials after I understand it to pick out important rule statements.

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Postby 3|ink » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:08 pm

mtyler19 wrote:Starting to freak out. The wills & trusts/estates lecturer was awful for TX and I'm still struggling to learn it overall. I've tried picking out rule statements from answers but its not helping me understand the big picture like the rest of the lectures have done for me. Can anyone suggest a quick way to learn it outside of barbri? Planning on going through the materials after I understand it to pick out important rule statements.

I guess I got lucky. Virginia has a really good Wills professor. Probably on par with Freer.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby ash0117 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:59 pm

mtyler19 wrote:Starting to freak out. The wills & trusts/estates lecturer was awful for TX and I'm still struggling to learn it overall. I've tried picking out rule statements from answers but its not helping me understand the big picture like the rest of the lectures have done for me. Can anyone suggest a quick way to learn it outside of barbri? Planning on going through the materials after I understand it to pick out important rule statements.


FL's wills and trusts lecturer was horrible too. For the first time, I was thankful that I took the class in law school and had a great professor. I say look for a good outline somewhere... google "TX bar wills and trusts outline" or the like and you may be able to find one. Hopefully, you can find one with succinct statements of the rules. Good luck!

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby ash0117 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:21 pm

Also, most helpful part of BARBRI so far = the simulated MBE video lectures, especially for crim law and evidence. So glad I decided to watch them.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam

Postby mushybrain » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:23 pm

ash0117 wrote:Also, most helpful part of BARBRI so far = the simulated MBE video lectures, especially for crim law and evidence. So glad I decided to watch them.

Yeah, Guzman's are good. He actually teaches you things about picking the best answers/avoiding common wrong answers, rather than just reading the answers to you.




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