BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam Forum

[jamescastle]

I can't see the comments on my essay, even though I've updated Adobe as the Barbri tech suggested. Does anyone have any suggestions?

My first essay came back as a word doc with comments.

I submitted as a pdf. My review came back as a pdf with sticky comments and highlights and then a box at the end with overall comments.

[musicfor18]

Do the mnemonics help anyone? I am no more likely to remember CCC BoND in connection with strict products liability (and what each letter stands for) than I am to just remember the list of things it's supposed to help me remember.

No. Like another poster said, I do use BRAKES and MIMIC, and that's about it. I know BARRK is one of them because of that funny guy who kept saying it in the MBE Crim Law Workshop video, but I can never remember what it's used for (Burglary, Arson, Robbery, Rape, Kidnapping, but what is the relevance of this list?)

[EvelynS]

Property MBE makes me so hopeless. I really suck at it...big time. Getting only 30%-40% correct. Do you think it is possible to still get a decent MBE score considering I score within 65%-80% (by that i mean the % of correct answers) on all other subjects. Whenever I see a property question, I am about to cry. Hate this subject and hated it even when was a 1L (not that it matters to bar examiners. lol).

[myrtlewinston]

I can't see the comments on my essay, even though I've updated Adobe as the Barbri tech suggested. Does anyone have any suggestions?

My first essay came back as a word doc with comments.

I submitted as a pdf. My review came back as a pdf with sticky comments and highlights and then a box at the end with overall comments.

So did I! I called tech support. The guy e-mailed it to me as an attachment. Useful comments this time.

[murray18]

Do the mnemonics help anyone? I am no more likely to remember CCC BoND in connection with strict products liability (and what each letter stands for) than I am to just remember the list of things it's supposed to help me remember.

I agree with you for the most part, but I do use MIMIC and MY LEGS (for statute of frauds). I also remember the dumb "it takes two" thing for easements appurtenant.

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Comparing my commercial paper lecture notes to the CMR. WTF? I know the lecturers like to gloss over things, but holy hell Paula.

[Hutz_and_Goodman]

Property MBE makes me so hopeless. I really suck at it...big time. Getting only 30%-40% correct. Do you think it is possible to still get a decent MBE score considering I score within 65%-80% (by that i mean the % of correct answers) on all other subjects. Whenever I see a property question, I am about to cry. Hate this subject and hated it even when was a 1L (not that it matters to bar examiners. lol).

If you are scoring like that on MBE do not sweat property. You will be fine. Focus on state specific stuff.

[myrtlewinston]

For NY essays, is the score raw or scaled?

[Hutz_and_Goodman]

For NY essays, is the score raw or scaled?

If someone can explain how the ny score is calculated (total score) I'd appreciate it very much.

[RaleighStClair]

Property MBE makes me so hopeless. I really suck at it...big time. Getting only 30%-40% correct. Do you think it is possible to still get a decent MBE score considering I score within 65%-80% (by that i mean the % of correct answers) on all other subjects. Whenever I see a property question, I am about to cry. Hate this subject and hated it even when was a 1L (not that it matters to bar examiners. lol).

If you are scoring like that on MBE do not sweat property. You will be fine. Focus on state specific stuff.

What kind of a state are you taking in?

I'm in a similar boat, but I'm going to keep plugging away at property. Since it's fair game on the MEE and is a significant part of the MBE, I think it's worth the effort. Try to focus on the particular areas that are giving you the most trouble. For me, all of them are, haha, but I definitely have the biggest problem with present and future interests. The past couple days I've devoted a substantial amount of time to easements/equitable servitudes and I definitely noticed a difference.

Good luck!!

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I have a commercial paper question. A check dated three months into the future can qualify as a negotiable instrument, right? One of barbri's model essay answers says that a check made out to the IRS postdated 3 months cannot be a valid obligation. They don't really go into why not.

I fucking hate barbri so much right now.

[RaleighStClair]

Just did the Crim Law essay 3 (dude who shot his friend in the chair on a hunting trip). God...I hope an essay on the actual exam is as easy as that one.

[EvelynS]

Property MBE makes me so hopeless. I really suck at it...big time. Getting only 30%-40% correct. Do you think it is possible to still get a decent MBE score considering I score within 65%-80% (by that i mean the % of correct answers) on all other subjects. Whenever I see a property question, I am about to cry. Hate this subject and hated it even when was a 1L (not that it matters to bar examiners. lol).

If you are scoring like that on MBE do not sweat property. You will be fine. Focus on state specific stuff.

What kind of a state are you taking in?

I'm in a similar boat, but I'm going to keep plugging away at property. Since it's fair game on the MEE and is a significant part of the MBE, I think it's worth the effort. Try to focus on the particular areas that are giving you the most trouble. For me, all of them are, haha, but I definitely have the biggest problem with present and future interests. The past couple days I've devoted a substantial amount of time to easements/equitable servitudes and I definitely noticed a difference.

Good luck!!

I am in NY. So my MBE is worth 40%. I do think that property is pretty frequent on the essay portion, but not as frequent as Ks, Torts, Domestic Relations, Wills, and NY Practice. And like you I struggle with anything related to property, except maybe for L/T law or some parts of tenancy. But I will keep practicing nevertheless. Getting even one extra point may be helpful on the actual test.

[victortsoi]

so who thinks they'll reject my essay if i send it in at 1 am?

[BVest]

That Property MPQ 5: WTF? There's no way any of the real MBE property questions are as difficult as the easiest of that set.

[goaheadualright]

Do the mnemonics help anyone? I am no more likely to remember CCC BoND in connection with strict products liability (and what each letter stands for) than I am to just remember the list of things it's supposed to help me remember.

No. Like another poster said, I do use BRAKES and MIMIC, and that's about it. I know BARRK is one of them because of that funny guy who kept saying it in the MBE Crim Law Workshop video, but I can never remember what it's used for (Burglary, Arson, Robbery, Rape, Kidnapping, but what is the relevance of this list?)

I think felony murder crimes?

[LawGuy321]

Do the mnemonics help anyone? I am no more likely to remember CCC BoND in connection with strict products liability (and what each letter stands for) than I am to just remember the list of things it's supposed to help me remember.

The only ones I use are BRAKES (felony murder) and MIMIC (hearsay).

I use BARRK for that, ha! What's the "E" in BRAKES?

For the record, I occasionally think "MYLEGS" for when SoF applies, and then I have also used ENDCRAMP for how to end an easement. That's the only new one I really took away from Franzese's lecture -- she has so many it was overwhelming, but I'm considering going back and grabbing a few more. I do think they help with essays for the elements.

[LawGuy321]

Do the mnemonics help anyone? I am no more likely to remember CCC BoND in connection with strict products liability (and what each letter stands for) than I am to just remember the list of things it's supposed to help me remember.

No. Like another poster said, I do use BRAKES and MIMIC, and that's about it. I know BARRK is one of them because of that funny guy who kept saying it in the MBE Crim Law Workshop video, but I can never remember what it's used for (Burglary, Arson, Robbery, Rape, Kidnapping, but what is the relevance of this list?)

I think felony murder crimes?

Yeah, it's the list of crimes always considered "dangerous felonies" at common law for felony murder. I thought BRAKES was also for that, but don't know where the "E" is coming from -- if that's not the same thing, what is BRAKES for?

[Devlin]

so who thinks they'll reject my essay if i send it in at 1 am?

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[RaleighStClair]

Do the mnemonics help anyone? I am no more likely to remember CCC BoND in connection with strict products liability (and what each letter stands for) than I am to just remember the list of things it's supposed to help me remember.

No. Like another poster said, I do use BRAKES and MIMIC, and that's about it. I know BARRK is one of them because of that funny guy who kept saying it in the MBE Crim Law Workshop video, but I can never remember what it's used for (Burglary, Arson, Robbery, Rape, Kidnapping, but what is the relevance of this list?)

I think felony murder crimes?

Yeah, it's the list of crimes always considered "dangerous felonies" at common law for felony murder. I thought BRAKES was also for that, but don't know where the "E" is coming from -- if that's not the same thing, what is BRAKES for?

Not sure if you have another one for BRAKES. But for felony murder I use BARKRE; under the MPC, it's the ones listed above as well as "Felonious Escape."

[myrtlewinston]

so who thinks they'll reject my essay if i send it in at 1 am?

I'm sure starting tomorrow FOR JUST $99.99 you can have UNLIMITED essay review!

Good one! Barbri will not get another cent out of me.

[BVest]

Not sure if you have another one for BRAKES. But for felony murder I use BARKRE; under the MPC, it's the ones listed above as well as "Felonious Escape."

Why not BARKER?

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MADFIFIIII

I forget what it means. Something about defenses.

[gmail]

Here's a fun thing to do. Get not-sober and watch Real Property III at .75x

[victortsoi]

MADFIFIIII

I forget what it means. Something about defenses.

sucks that fifi isn't a crim law mnemonic.