Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

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Postby LAW813FL » Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:39 pm

Cydiego wrote:Random MC question: anybody remember the subsequent remedial question that was offered to prove that it wasn't impractical to make the repair? What was the correct answer?

I think I chose the exception for proving that the remedial measure was possible but it's been bugging me ever since.

Ya I think I got that one wrong unfortunately but I forget the facts

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby legal10101 » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:30 pm

LAW813FL wrote:
Cydiego wrote:Random MC question: anybody remember the subsequent remedial question that was offered to prove that it wasn't impractical to make the repair? What was the correct answer?

I think I chose the exception for proving that the remedial measure was possible but it's been bugging me ever since.

Ya I think I got that one wrong unfortunately but I forget the facts

Yeah I think I got it wrong.... It was about admission of remedial actions as evidence of.... Can't remember what... If it's for liability its inadmissible, but to prove there was a safer known alternative its admissible.... I think :?

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Cydiego » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:51 pm

legal10101 wrote:
LAW813FL wrote:
Cydiego wrote:Random MC question: anybody remember the subsequent remedial question that was offered to prove that it wasn't impractical to make the repair? What was the correct answer?

I think I chose the exception for proving that the remedial measure was possible but it's been bugging me ever since.

Ya I think I got that one wrong unfortunately but I forget the facts

Yeah I think I got it wrong.... It was about admission of remedial actions as evidence of.... Can't remember what... If it's for liability its inadmissible, but to prove there was a safer known alternative its admissible.... I think :?


Why do you think you got it wrong?

Also, anybody remember any other fl questions?

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby LAW813FL » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:28 am

Cydiego wrote:
legal10101 wrote:
LAW813FL wrote:
Cydiego wrote:Random MC question: anybody remember the subsequent remedial question that was offered to prove that it wasn't impractical to make the repair? What was the correct answer?

I think I chose the exception for proving that the remedial measure was possible but it's been bugging me ever since.

Ya I think I got that one wrong unfortunately but I forget the facts

Yeah I think I got it wrong.... It was about admission of remedial actions as evidence of.... Can't remember what... If it's for liability its inadmissible, but to prove there was a safer known alternative its admissible.... I think :?


Why do you think you got it wrong?

Also, anybody remember any other fl questions?

Well I don't think were allowed to say any specific facts and id rather keep this thread open. but i think i said inadmissible, when i should have said admissible. fl mc was a blur to me.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby LAW813FL » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:23 am

Does anyone know how the scores are posted online? Can everyone see your numbers? or just whether or not you passed?

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Postby LAW813FL » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:14 pm

LAW813FL wrote:Does anyone know how the scores are posted online? Can everyone see your numbers? or just whether or not you passed?

Bumpity bump

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Cydiego » Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:55 pm

LAW813FL wrote:
LAW813FL wrote:Does anyone know how the scores are posted online? Can everyone see your numbers? or just whether or not you passed?

Bumpity bump


It's all online by number and the process is terrifying.

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Postby LAW813FL » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:13 pm

Cydiego wrote:
LAW813FL wrote:
LAW813FL wrote:Does anyone know how the scores are posted online? Can everyone see your numbers? or just whether or not you passed?

Bumpity bump


It's all online by number and the process is terrifying.

Okay but your name isn't associated with your scores? Just the number that was on our admission ticket?

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Cydiego » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:19 pm

LAW813FL wrote:
Cydiego wrote:
LAW813FL wrote:
LAW813FL wrote:Does anyone know how the scores are posted online? Can everyone see your numbers? or just whether or not you passed?

Bumpity bump


It's all online by number and the process is terrifying.

Okay but your name isn't associated with your scores? Just the number that was on our admission ticket?


Yeah your name, ss#, and other highly personal info is listed there as well for everyone to see

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby LAW813FL » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:34 pm

Cydiego wrote:
LAW813FL wrote:
Cydiego wrote:
LAW813FL wrote:
LAW813FL wrote:Does anyone know how the scores are posted online? Can everyone see your numbers? or just whether or not you passed?

Bumpity bump


It's all online by number and the process is terrifying.

Okay but your name isn't associated with your scores? Just the number that was on our admission ticket?


Yeah your name, ss#, and other highly personal info is listed there as well for everyone to see

Like how highly personal? I haven't been having my normal amount of bowel movements so I want to be able to identify myself. Maybe I should amend my bar app? I believe bowel movements was right after employment history. Thanks for the help!

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Postby 941law » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:17 am

This wait is brutal.

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Postby 941law » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:56 pm

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Postby 941law » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:00 pm

welp, definitely didn't spend enough time discussing the charges or the States reply to those charges.

Note to self: READ THE DAMN QUESTION.

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Postby 941law » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:08 pm

my review immediately after the exam :roll: now after seeing the question again :evil:

941law wrote:Reviews of July 2015 Exam start here:

I wanted to write up a review for the future test takers that will be looking for info in this thread..


(Essays will all be publically released in a few months)
Essay 1: contracts. I'm trying to remember all the issues I heard people mention. Essentially contract formation, termination (revocation), mailbox rule. It was like 3 mini essays as the call of the questions and fact patters weren't related (different lots for sale). Plus an ethical dilemma.

Essay 2: criminal and con law (?). I touched on various charges that could be brought on the defendant (which was the first call of the question). Then I touched on the which pretrial motions would be her defense. You had an insanity issue, suppression of evidence, and suppression of statements, and a Miranda issue. Also how the State would argue back. A major topic in this essay was whether or not the police were able to bust into this house with a warrant and what rights did the defendant have. I got into amendments/con law at this point. Was she protected. Was there an exclusionary rule for her "drug ledger." Fruit of the poisonous tree issue. Did the police have an exigency circumstance to enter the house because they heard a disgruntled "moan." Argued both ways. ANOTHER ethical issue here, crim attorney working for a contingency fee.

Essay 3: Torts. A company/city ignores a product recall on an airbag. Employee dies driving the company car. What is spouses possible actions? Defenses to these actions? And then yet again, list the ethical issues (excessive fee; procedural issues). I went with product liability and negligence as my 2 main actions and comparative negligence as my main defense.

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Postby LAW813FL » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:33 pm

941law wrote:my review immediately after the exam :roll: now after seeing the question again :evil:

941law wrote:Reviews of July 2015 Exam start here:

I wanted to write up a review for the future test takers that will be looking for info in this thread..


(Essays will all be publically released in a few months)
Essay 1: contracts. I'm trying to remember all the issues I heard people mention. Essentially contract formation, termination (revocation), mailbox rule. It was like 3 mini essays as the call of the questions and fact patters weren't related (different lots for sale). Plus an ethical dilemma.

Essay 2: criminal and con law (?). I touched on various charges that could be brought on the defendant (which was the first call of the question). Then I touched on the which pretrial motions would be her defense. You had an insanity issue, suppression of evidence, and suppression of statements, and a Miranda issue. Also how the State would argue back. A major topic in this essay was whether or not the police were able to bust into this house with a warrant and what rights did the defendant have. I got into amendments/con law at this point. Was she protected. Was there an exclusionary rule for her "drug ledger." Fruit of the poisonous tree issue. Did the police have an exigency circumstance to enter the house because they heard a disgruntled "moan." Argued both ways. ANOTHER ethical issue here, crim attorney working for a contingency fee.

Essay 3: Torts. A company/city ignores a product recall on an airbag. Employee dies driving the company car. What is spouses possible actions? Defenses to these actions? And then yet again, list the ethical issues (excessive fee; procedural issues). I went with product liability and negligence as my 2 main actions and comparative negligence as my main defense.

Yay this is a good write up...I definitely didn't do enough on essay 2 but I did decent enough on the rest and all ethics issues to the extent that I'm not that worried about my essay score.

The mbe, however, is making me worry

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Postby 941law » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:52 pm

It's a sad situation when I know if I passed that means many of my guesses (mbe and state) were right and if I failed then my guesses were wrong. Cheapens the whole deal for me.

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Postby Cydiego » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:55 pm

Maybe a bit premature, but anybody seen any sample essay answers? If so could please PM me a copy?

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Postby 727law » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:00 pm

LAW813FL wrote:
941law wrote:my review immediately after the exam :roll: now after seeing the question again :evil:

941law wrote:Reviews of July 2015 Exam start here:

I wanted to write up a review for the future test takers that will be looking for info in this thread..


(Essays will all be publically released in a few months)
Essay 1: contracts. I'm trying to remember all the issues I heard people mention. Essentially contract formation, termination (revocation), mailbox rule. It was like 3 mini essays as the call of the questions and fact patters weren't related (different lots for sale). Plus an ethical dilemma.

Essay 2: criminal and con law (?). I touched on various charges that could be brought on the defendant (which was the first call of the question). Then I touched on the which pretrial motions would be her defense. You had an insanity issue, suppression of evidence, and suppression of statements, and a Miranda issue. Also how the State would argue back. A major topic in this essay was whether or not the police were able to bust into this house with a warrant and what rights did the defendant have. I got into amendments/con law at this point. Was she protected. Was there an exclusionary rule for her "drug ledger." Fruit of the poisonous tree issue. Did the police have an exigency circumstance to enter the house because they heard a disgruntled "moan." Argued both ways. ANOTHER ethical issue here, crim attorney working for a contingency fee.

Essay 3: Torts. A company/city ignores a product recall on an airbag. Employee dies driving the company car. What is spouses possible actions? Defenses to these actions? And then yet again, list the ethical issues (excessive fee; procedural issues). I went with product liability and negligence as my 2 main actions and comparative negligence as my main defense.

Yay this is a good write up...I definitely didn't do enough on essay 2 but I did decent enough on the rest and all ethics issues to the extent that I'm not that worried about my essay score.

The mbe, however, is making me worry


Lots of issues with the all three ethics questions so a quick breakdown on what I discussed:
Question 1: whether the attorney can take a proprietary interest, if so whether the interest as a fee would be considered excessive
Question 2: Compensation by a third party, contingency fee in crim case as well as excessive fee. Also argued the bonus as a gift to attorney that couldnt be accepted
Question 3: contingency fee being excessive (outside the guidelines). Fraud/misrepresentation for calling 50% a standard attorney fee when it was clearly excessive, and Failure to withdraw; argued attorney would try to recover for work he did over several months but that he should have withdrawn at the wish of client

in all excessive fee analysis I discussed fees in general. I felt like there were a lot of points to gain on the Ethics portions of these questions and i "think" I hit the main points pretty well. Anyone find any other issues?

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby LAW813FL » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:24 pm

727law wrote:
LAW813FL wrote:
941law wrote:my review immediately after the exam :roll: now after seeing the question again :evil:

941law wrote:Reviews of July 2015 Exam start here:

I wanted to write up a review for the future test takers that will be looking for info in this thread..


(Essays will all be publically released in a few months)
Essay 1: contracts. I'm trying to remember all the issues I heard people mention. Essentially contract formation, termination (revocation), mailbox rule. It was like 3 mini essays as the call of the questions and fact patters weren't related (different lots for sale). Plus an ethical dilemma.

Essay 2: criminal and con law (?). I touched on various charges that could be brought on the defendant (which was the first call of the question). Then I touched on the which pretrial motions would be her defense. You had an insanity issue, suppression of evidence, and suppression of statements, and a Miranda issue. Also how the State would argue back. A major topic in this essay was whether or not the police were able to bust into this house with a warrant and what rights did the defendant have. I got into amendments/con law at this point. Was she protected. Was there an exclusionary rule for her "drug ledger." Fruit of the poisonous tree issue. Did the police have an exigency circumstance to enter the house because they heard a disgruntled "moan." Argued both ways. ANOTHER ethical issue here, crim attorney working for a contingency fee.

Essay 3: Torts. A company/city ignores a product recall on an airbag. Employee dies driving the company car. What is spouses possible actions? Defenses to these actions? And then yet again, list the ethical issues (excessive fee; procedural issues). I went with product liability and negligence as my 2 main actions and comparative negligence as my main defense.

Yay this is a good write up...I definitely didn't do enough on essay 2 but I did decent enough on the rest and all ethics issues to the extent that I'm not that worried about my essay score.

The mbe, however, is making me worry


Lots of issues with the all three ethics questions so a quick breakdown on what I discussed:
Question 1: whether the attorney can take a proprietary interest, if so whether the interest as a fee would be considered excessive
Question 2: Compensation by a third party, contingency fee in crim case as well as excessive fee. Also argued the bonus as a gift to attorney that couldnt be accepted
Question 3: contingency fee being excessive (outside the guidelines). Fraud/misrepresentation for calling 50% a standard attorney fee when it was clearly excessive, and Failure to withdraw; argued attorney would try to recover for work he did over several months but that he should have withdrawn at the wish of client

in all excessive fee analysis I discussed fees in general. I felt like there were a lot of points to gain on the Ethics portions of these questions and i "think" I hit the main points pretty well. Anyone find any other issues?

Entering into transaction with client on Q.1

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Geaux12 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:01 pm

I think I totally shit the bed with my essay answers; spent all that time practicing form/language/etc., then just shit everything that popped into my head onto the page. Not that much popped into my head.


I've got this ominous feeling that the only way I pass is if 30% of people were even stupider than me.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby ResIpsa305 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:46 am

Geaux12 wrote:I think I totally shit the bed with my essay answers; spent all that time practicing form/language/etc., then just shit everything that popped into my head onto the page. Not that much popped into my head.


I feel the same way - so I suspect many more are in the same boat, which is a good thing.

Spent so much time on Essay #1 that form/language kind of went out the window on #2 and #3. (moreso #2 because I was not expecting it at all).

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby 941law » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:29 pm

I could not imagine studying and working at a law firm. Maybe studying and working at a library, but that's about it.




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