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Postby javachip » Thu May 23, 2019 11:10 am

why can those topics be more easily manipulated than the others?

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Postby johngotti » Tue May 28, 2019 4:32 pm

javachip wrote:why can those topics be more easily manipulated than the others?


A lot of family law stuff is based on factors instead of elements and literally anything can be a factor. I'm just kinda conspiratorial about the essay grading, you can look at previous posts in this thread expressing similar skepticism.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Common stock » Wed May 29, 2019 10:39 am

So my law employment reference is not getting back to the board. The board sent me a letter saying they would terminate my app if they don’t hear from my previous job. Anyone ever deal with this? Is there some recourse if my previous job just doesn’t comply?

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby kinseyjo » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:27 am

Anyone have a solution to the fact that none of the barbri materials are available as pdf? I want to be able to study on my work computer intermittently throughout the day but every outline/testing is only in the books. If anyone has a Kaplan pdf of FL materials it would also be greatly appreciated. PDF of FL topics in any form is greatly needed.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Jmart082 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:50 pm

kinseyjo wrote:Anyone have a solution to the fact that none of the barbri materials are available as pdf? I want to be able to study on my work computer intermittently throughout the day but every outline/testing is only in the books. If anyone has a Kaplan pdf of FL materials it would also be greatly appreciated. PDF of FL topics in any form is greatly needed.

I'm expecting these within the next day or two. PM me.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Allegedly88 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:27 pm

Does any repeat takers find themselves frustrated and extra anxious when studying? I have constant anxiety because i do not want to do this a fourth time.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Bobby_Axelrod » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:27 pm

Hello all. I'm starting up bar prep in the next day or two. Fortunately, I only have to take Part A, but still feel like I need to prep as if I'm taking the full exam anyway since all subjects are fair game. I'm thinking of signing up for a bar review course, but not sure how best to go about it since the courses are geared for the full exam. Anyone have any suggestions/tips on how best to study for Part A only? TIA!

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Jmart082 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:02 pm

Allegedly88 wrote:Does any repeat takers find themselves frustrated and extra anxious when studying? I have constant anxiety because i do not want to do this a fourth time.

Me. But I found that where I was studying was the problem. I'm going to the local University now and getting a quiet study room whenever possible rather than staying at home. It's helped me, but to be fair, my problem is more ADHD-related than anxiety driven, although being stressed about having to take it again does cause me to retreat to other things more.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby randallh5566 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:26 pm

So I might just be frustrated that I've failed FL multiple times but I think it's crap that the Executive director of the FL Board of bar examiners doesn't even have a law degree. Which means she has no idea what taking the bar exam is like. But she's in charge of the grading of the exam!

She's also the chair of the NCBE. I'm talking out my ass but I smell a conflict of interest. Some transparency would be nice

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Jmart082 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:33 am

randallh5566 wrote:So I might just be frustrated that I've failed FL multiple times but I think it's crap that the Executive director of the FL Board of bar examiners doesn't even have a law degree. Which means she has no idea what taking the bar exam is like. But she's in charge of the grading of the exam!

She's also the chair of the NCBE. I'm talking out my ass but I smell a conflict of interest. Some transparency would be nice

It's all a blatant cash grab. The fact that they pad the numbers the way that they do to make it seem like slightly less of a cash grab than it is, is particularly telling. The Florida section, in particular, I can't understand for the life of me. The fact that it has nearly twice as many topics as the MBE, and can be tested, and is tested, with far greater nuance than the same is also a source of great frustration for me. I'm sort of resigning myself to failing Florida again, yet getting enough points on it to be able to pass on a strong MBE. Granted, this means that I'll be stuck with an exam score that can't be transferred to another jurisdiction, but I'm OK with that at this point. I went to school out of state, and we tend not to do well on the exam for reasons that aren't entirely clear to me yet. Maybe the Florida schools are starting to catch on to the idea that they can inflate their pass rates if they hold back graduating students from getting their degree until they can muster passing scores on a required Florida Bar Prep course (an idea pioneered by FIU).

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby johngotti » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:27 am

randallh5566 wrote:So I might just be frustrated that I've failed FL multiple times but I think it's crap that the Executive director of the FL Board of bar examiners doesn't even have a law degree. Which means she has no idea what taking the bar exam is like. But she's in charge of the grading of the exam!

She's also the chair of the NCBE. I'm talking out my ass but I smell a conflict of interest. Some transparency would be nice


I completely understand why they've made it harder but they could at least be transparent about the stats. The fees to take the exam are absolutely ridiculous and as posted above it's a blatant cash grab ($125 just so you can type out your exam give me a break). It's clearly in their interest for more people to fail while continuing to collect those fees and only providing first time taker data.

Everyone loves a good conspiracy and it wouldn't surprise me if they're aware of MBE scores before they really start grading the essays, giving them the ability to group ones with good MBE scores together while grading borderline ones a lot tougher. I'd say 20% of the essays can be graded high with 30 seconds of skimming and 20% can be graded as not even close to passing within the same 30 seconds. I have no idea how you differentiate among the middle 60% that could go either way.



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