Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby ash0117 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:13 pm

Barbri users - how did you feel about the Florida practice exam (the essays and 100 MC questions)? Barbri apparently thinks that Wills will also be on the MC... I found it a bit too easy considering how hard I've heard the actual FL exam is. Other thoughts?

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Postby 941law » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:50 am

ash0117 wrote:Barbri users - how did you feel about the Florida practice exam (the essays and 100 MC questions)? Barbri apparently thinks that Wills will also be on the MC... I found it a bit too easy considering how hard I've heard the actual FL exam is. Other thoughts?

Too easy.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby EAsports » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:16 pm

How are people feeling? Where is your time being spent?

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby 941law » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:35 pm

I switched to MBE. Probably go back to Florida on Monday.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby EAsports » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:44 pm

Not a bad move. I'm doing MBE mornings, FL afternoons. Feel like my MBE range isn't gonna change anytime soon, though studying MBE is helpful for FL essay crossover subjects (torts, K, property) and vice-versa

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Cydiego » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:13 pm

Cumulative voting, the actual rule, makes sense. But I'm having a hard time w the logic. For instance, if all the shareholders can multiply their shares by the number of directors, how does this change anything? It's the same percentage just new numbers. What am I missing here?

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Postby legal10101 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:41 am

Cydiego wrote:Cumulative voting, the actual rule, makes sense. But I'm having a hard time w the logic. For instance, if all the shareholders can multiply their shares by the number of directors, how does this change anything? It's the same percentage just new numbers. What am I missing here?



Just remember that essentially they can throw all their eggs (votes) in one basket... so if there are 10 directors and I am 25% shareholder, I have 250 votes that I could put on my top choice. I don't have any other votes to cast, but could have enough to make sure my top choice is for sure chosen.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby aladdinismyprince » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:08 am

The Themis materials on business entities are terrible. Does anyone have another source which will teach me the basics of FL partnerships and corporations? I will love you forever.

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Postby LAW813FL » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:54 am

Back on July 2010 and Feb 2011, the MC for BE said "Business Entities including Corporations" and ever since then it only says "Business Entities" when its tested. Does anyone know if, when BE is tested, Corporations and Partnerships are tested together, or separate?

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Cydiego » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:03 am

LAW813FL wrote:Back on July 2010 and Feb 2011, the MC for BE said "Business Entities including Corporations" and ever since then it only says "Business Entities" when its tested. Does anyone know if, when BE is tested, Corporations and Partnerships are tested together, or separate?


They are tested together.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby max2000 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:54 pm

When would the 360 year vesting period for trusts ever be a RAP issue?... Can anyone give an example?

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Postby rtd1987 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:22 pm

aladdinismyprince wrote:The Themis materials on business entities are terrible. Does anyone have another source which will teach me the basics of FL partnerships and corporations? I will love you forever.


https://quizlet.com/10096283/fl-bar-mul ... ash-cards/

^ Hope that helps.

Regarding homestead protection, if both spouses hold as tenants by entirety does that remove the protection? I recall a question in which this was the case and it confused me--why?

(http://www.floridabar.org/DIVCOM/JN/JNJ ... enDocument)

(googled my question and found the above to be helpful)

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Cydiego » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:03 pm

Anybody know if it's against the rules to start writing mnuemonics and notes down on scratch paper BEFORE exam starts but inside the room?

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Postby max2000 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:08 am

I'm not so sure there even is scrap paper to begin with, I think they expect you to use the space in the actual booklet...

And anyone else really hoping for wills on the MCQ. I feel like it's the easiet, or the Themis questions are really easy (scoring 65-80%)

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Postby max2000 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:20 am

Also I presume BE questions won't be this easy... (Again, Themis) :lol:

Which of the following would be a proper name for a Florida limited liability partnership?
Magnolia Partners

Fleur de Lis, LLP

Adams & Georges, Ltd.

Big Top Limited Partnership

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby Cydiego » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:07 am

max2000 wrote:I'm not so sure there even is scrap paper to begin with, I think they expect you to use the space in the actual booklet...

And anyone else really hoping for wills on the MCQ. I feel like it's the easiet, or the Themis questions are really easy (scoring 65-80%)


There is paper out waiting for us

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby legal10101 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:37 am

max2000 wrote:When would the 360 year vesting period for trusts ever be a RAP issue?... Can anyone give an example?



I think the idea is that they essentially trying to get rid of the RAP...through adoption of a ridiculous standard (360 yrs). Just hit on it, get your point, and move on.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby legal10101 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:39 am

Cydiego wrote:Anybody know if it's against the rules to start writing mnuemonics and notes down on scratch paper BEFORE exam starts but inside the room?


It is against the rules.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby LAW813FL » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:23 am

Anybody know if all MBE score are scaled the same, like between states? Does a raw scores in different states equal the same scaled score?

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Postby MG95 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:31 am

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby 941law » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:05 am

Fucking groundhog's day around here. I don't know how I'll ever return to normal society, oh wait I know how, alcohol.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby LAW813FL » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:21 pm

What are people's thoughts on Commercial Paper and Secured transactions? Chances we get one of them?

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby joloyolo » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:20 pm

LAW813FL wrote:What are people's thoughts on Commercial Paper and Secured transactions? Chances we get one of them?


Im thinking its likely we will see one of them. But doesnt help much to guess. Just try and make sure you can get the basics down.

Thoughts on them? I dont like them one bit. I especially dont like secured transactions. Hoping that I can get better at recalling that stuff.

For commercial paper I found the leansheets to be super helpful. It has some helpful mnemonics that helped me get down negotiability requirements and HDC status.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby FloRida15 » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:22 pm

anyone do the MC questions of the FL bar website yet? If so, can anyone explain the rationale for the correct answer on the below? Thanks.

Rainbow Corporation has outstanding 1,000 shares of voting common stock and 1,000 shares of nonvoting preferred. The preferred has a liquidation preference equal to its par value of $100 per share plus a three percent noncumulative dividend. Rainbow submits to its stockholders a proposal to authorize a new class of preferred stock with redemption rights that would come ahead of the old preferred stock. At a shareholders' meeting, 700 common and 400 preferred vote in favor of the proposal. Which of the following statements is correct?
(A) The proposal is validly approved because overall a majority of the outstanding shares did approve.
(B) The proposal is invalidly approved because a majority of the preferred shareholders did not approve.
(C) The vote of the preferred stockholders does not matter because it was nonvoting stock.
(D) The proposal is invalidly approved because a two-thirds vote of each class is required.

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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread

Postby 941law » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:23 pm

LAW813FL wrote:What are people's thoughts on Commercial Paper and Secured transactions? Chances we get one of them?


Like I've said (HERE HE GOES AGAIN), we seem to be due up for a Contracts and Torts essay. They hit a Trusts essay every calendar year (and never Wills mc in that same exam) and haven't yet this year. Also they usually hit a Fl Con Law essay once or twice a calendar year. Does the Federal Con Law February essay play any role in their essay picks for July? No clue. So my essay subjects spread out are:

Contracts, Fl Con Law, Ethics, Torts, Trusts. Avoiding: Prop, Family, Commercial, and Secured.




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