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[dazzliing]

Anyone know what the MC topics were for Feb 2016?

They were
Florida Pro
Business Entities with a large focus on Partnership
Evidence

[grixxlybear99]

My prediction:

Family Law
Trusts
Real Property
FL Con Law
Contracts/Art. 3
Professionalism

Florida Procedure
Wills
Evidence

[Joey4112]

Is Evidence frequently tested every time? Like I think it was tested in July too. Does that means its frequently tested more than Wills and Corps or is there a chance we get Wills and Corps with no evidence?

[wwwcol]

Is Evidence frequently tested every time? Like I think it was tested in July too. Does that means its frequently tested more than Wills and Corps or is there a chance we get Wills and Corps with no evidence?

Evidence has been tested 8 of the past 10 times, whereas Wills and Corps have been tested 6 of the past 10. Obviously there is a chance of Wills and Corps, but that happened in Feb 2015 so I think it's more likely that we get Evidence (and I agree with grixxlzy's hunch that the other will be Wills).

[Joey4112]

Cool thanks. Any info on the website that predicts the essay topics? Seems like its down.

[not guilty]

MC Predictions:

Fla Civ and Crim Pro
Evidence
Biz Orgs (corporations heavy)


If they want Part A to keep getting crazier they could go no Evidence and do Wills and Biz Orgs.

They could also add a new MC Subject if they so choose.

They could also do Wills MC and a Trusts Essay, which they never do.

[not guilty]

Is Evidence frequently tested every time? Like I think it was tested in July too. Does that means its frequently tested more than Wills and Corps or is there a chance we get Wills and Corps with no evidence?

Listen, if you're forced for time I would study Evidence more so than the other 2, but no one really knows. You may not even get Evidence.

A wildcard essay topic could be Family with a Dependency issue.

[not guilty]

it's like Barbri makes you squeeze out florida rules. we have to fight through distinctions instead of outlines. The Wills lecture is going over common law comparisons for no apparent reason.

I wish a company would come out and just focus on Part A Florida.

[blueapple08]

it's like Barbri makes you squeeze out florida rules. we have to fight through distinctions instead of outlines. The Wills lecture is going over common law comparisons for no apparent reason.

I wish a company would come out and just focus on Part A Florida.

Yeah, Barbri not been very effective for the Florida portion. The whole distinctions tables they give is also not working for me at all. I doubt I'd have enough time to create something a little more helpful at this point.

[grixxlybear99]

How did everyone do on the Florida multiple choice simulated exam?

I felt the questions were fair but did worse than expected because of reading too quickly. Definitely could have got 10 more correct if I would've slowed down a bit. Finished with 30 minutes to spare.

[unreasonabledonut]

I'm using someone else's Barbri 2015 materials; can anyone share what Florida subjects Barbri tested on the 2016 simulated FL m/c and essays? Thanks in advance!

[wwwcol]

How did everyone do on the Florida multiple choice simulated exam?

I felt the questions were fair but did worse than expected because of reading too quickly. Definitely could have got 10 more correct if I would've slowed down a bit. Finished with 30 minutes to spare.

Not well. Especially on Corporations, I'm struggling to remember all the details.

Are any of y'all doing the sample MC on the FL bar study guides, and if so, have you found them helpful?

[blueapple08]

How are you guys prioritizing which rules to memorize? I know we are expected to memorize some of the extremely specific rules, but it seems impossible to memorize all of them.

[sflyr2016]

Was really upset that BarBri so far has not covered Fl essay topics all that much (other than assigning a random batch to do here and there), and has instead been more MBE focused. But since Fl averages your MBE score to boost your Fl score, and since you typically need a scaled score of 136 on Fl to pass (according to BarBri), then that means a scaled 150 on the MBE lets you get away with scoring a scaled score of 122 (avg = 136). My understanding is that a scaled score of 122 on the Fl portion is doable. So though I was pretty upset that BarBri's plan has somewhat screwed us in terms of prep for everything except the MBE, I can sort of see why.

[not guilty]

Where do you see the Fla Bar admitting anything they do scoring wise? All we know is that Part A and Part B are weighed equally. We do not know if MC or Essays weigh more or not.

Go back in this thread about 4 pages and you will see all the math. Many feel essays get scaled down a bunch.

[sflyr2016]

Where do you see the Fla Bar admitting anything they do scoring wise? All we know is that Part A and Part B are weighed equally. We do not know if MC or Essays way more or not.

Go back in this thread about 4 pages and you will see all the math. Many feel essays get scaled down a bunch.

From the FBBE site: "A passing grade under this method would be an average scaled score of 136 or better, or such score as may be set by the Supreme Court of Florida." https://www.floridabarexam.org/web/webs ... 0B0067E748.

[wwwcol]

Was really upset that BarBri so far has not covered Fl essay topics all that much (other than assigning a random batch to do here and there), and has instead been more MBE focused. But since Fl averages your MBE score to boost your Fl score, and since you typically need a scaled score of 136 on Fl to pass (according to BarBri), then that means a scaled 150 on the MBE lets you get away with scoring a scaled score of 122 (avg = 136). My understanding is that a scaled score of 122 on the Fl portion is doable. So though I was pretty upset that BarBri's plan has somewhat screwed us in terms of prep for everything except the MBE, I can sort of see why.

I don't think anyone is making claims about the relative weight of MC vs essay on the FL part (well, other than the one I'm about to make). But not guilty, you're right that anecdotal evidence suggests MC is more important than essay.

Sort of makes intuitive sense to me. Based on some of the numbers in this thread and Barbri's essay "scoring," it seems like the vast majority of essays will fall within a range of 15-50, so there are potentially a lot more points to be lost on the MC section than essays.

[not guilty]

I see. Your argument is that Barbri does less Fla because you can bring your score up via MBE? Although I don't know if they do that intentionally, that is true. The scale works both ways of course. I certainly wouldn't plan on getting a 126 Fla because I was convinced I was getting a 148 MBE.

What scares me is the lack of candor from the Bar on how exactly they calculate our Part A score. They don't release Part A until they have received Part B. Why not show the math?

[not guilty]

I don't think anyone is making claims about the relative weight of MC vs essay on the FL part (well, other than the one I'm about to make). But not guilty, you're right that anecdotal evidence suggests MC is more important than essay.

Sort of makes intuitive sense to me. Based on some of the numbers in this thread and Barbri's essay "scoring," it seems like the vast majority of essays will fall within a range of 15-50, so there are potentially a lot more points to be lost on the MC section than essays.

Part A and Part B are equal weights.

MBE out of 190

Florida out of 190

MC has 100 points and essays out of 90 total. Each essay gets scaled down. Your 65 point essay is not going to get you 65 actual points.

[kcam1991]

I don't think anyone is making claims about the relative weight of MC vs essay on the FL part (well, other than the one I'm about to make). But not guilty, you're right that anecdotal evidence suggests MC is more important than essay.

Sort of makes intuitive sense to me. Based on some of the numbers in this thread and Barbri's essay "scoring," it seems like the vast majority of essays will fall within a range of 15-50, so there are potentially a lot more points to be lost on the MC section than essays.

Part A and Part B are equal weights.

MBE out of 190

Florida out of 190

MC has 100 points and essays out of 90 total. Each essay gets scaled down. Your 65 point essay is not going to get you 65 actual points.

What is the lowest possible score for Part A? In other words, what is an auto pass MBE?

[not guilty]

I'm using someone else's Barbri 2015 materials; can anyone share what Florida subjects Barbri tested on the 2016 simulated FL m/c and essays? Thanks in advance!

idk, but google "Benefit and social purpose corporations hybrid entity florida"

apparently new stuff.

[sflyr2016]

I don't think anyone is making claims about the relative weight of MC vs essay on the FL part (well, other than the one I'm about to make). But not guilty, you're right that anecdotal evidence suggests MC is more important than essay.

Sort of makes intuitive sense to me. Based on some of the numbers in this thread and Barbri's essay "scoring," it seems like the vast majority of essays will fall within a range of 15-50, so there are potentially a lot more points to be lost on the MC section than essays.

Part A and Part B are equal weights.

MBE out of 190

Florida out of 190

MC has 100 points and essays out of 90 total. Each essay gets scaled down. Your 65 point essay is not going to get you 65 actual points.

What is the lowest possible score for Part A? In other words, what is an auto pass MBE?

Since the MBE is a nationally administered exam, i don't think Fl can set a minimum number for it the way it has for the FL portion. I think they just wait for the results and scale it according to how Fl bar takers did on the MBE.

[wise4]

My prediction:

Family Law
Trusts
Real Property
FL Con Law
Contracts/Art. 3
Professionalism

Florida Procedure
Wills
Evidence

I am literally praying this happens. I find the Wills MCQ to be a lot simpler to figure out over Corporations. If the MCQ are Procedure, Evidence, and Wills, my confidence will be through the roof. If its corps, I am going to have to pray theres more questions about partnerships than anything else.

Those essays are doable. When there is 5 days left, I am going to spend half a day on Juvenile and Dependency so I can BS my way through it if it somehow appears as a full essay.

[blueapple08]

My prediction:

Family Law
Trusts
Real Property
FL Con Law
Contracts/Art. 3
Professionalism

Florida Procedure
Wills
Evidence

I am literally praying this happens. I find the Wills MCQ to be a lot simpler to figure out over Corporations. If the MCQ are Procedure, Evidence, and Wills, my confidence will be through the roof. If its corps, I am going to have to pray theres more questions about partnerships than anything else.

Those essays are doable. When there is 5 days left, I am going to spend half a day on Juvenile and Dependency so I can BS my way through it if it somehow appears as a full essay.

Wills simpler than Corporations? I feel the exact opposite lol. Some wills questions are so dense and take up so much time (usually with intestacy matters. I feel like corporation rules are easier to apply than wills, but props to you. How did you study for wills? Any tips?

[Jwashere]

Cool thanks. Any info on the website that predicts the essay topics? Seems like its down.

FYI- the site is back up but now all the relevant forums are password protected. To obtain the password, you're required to pay a $20 "donation." The site admin mentioned they might not even release a prediction this time around. Ill report back if its worth the $20 once I get my password.